Aden Frost Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 This is from TechScreen Its no secret that Microsoft has already begun work on the next version of Windows, Windows 7 (formerly, Windows Vienna). Little is known about, since Microsoft is keeping mum on it, lest it should repeat the disaster that was Vista (or rather Longhorn's) development cycle. Let's take a look at what we know so far about Windows 7.1. It will be released in late 2009 - This is perhaps the only solid fact that we know about Windows 7. Other than Windows Vista, all previous Windows versions have been released within at least 3 years of each other, so with Vista's debut in January 2007 we can safely assume Windows 7 so be in stores by late 2009 (or at the latest early 2010). 2. It will be a minor release: According to Microsoft, every other release of Windows will be a major update, therefore, since Windows Vista was a major release, Windows 7 is set to be minor update. However there is still some chance that Windows 7 will be a major release. Firstly it bears a whole new version number, secondly since Windows Vista was largely a disappointing release, Microsoft might be compelled to make the next version much more interesting. 3. There will be both 32-bit and 64-bit versions: Although the official word so far is that Windows 7 will be 64 bit, it should be noted that when Windows XP was released, Windows Longhorn was planned to be a 64-bit version only. Since most of the PCs in existence today are 32-bit, with so signs of a radical shift to 64-bit anytime soon, Windows 7 should be released in both 32-bit versions. 4. There will be a new UI component: When Microsoft first drew up plans for Windows 7 (back when it was codenamed Blackcomb), there were rumors that the current UI will be replaced with an entirely new one, with some reference to a sort of radial-dial. Where are no chances for a complete overhaul of the current interface, Microsoft has been working on several new UI ideas, some of which may slip into Windows 7. Indeed, this might be a way to transition us from the current UI to the new one in future Windows releases. 5. Hypervisor: Microsoft is currently working on a new hypervisor system codenamed "Viridian" with OS integration at the lowest level, and already Windows Vista includes extensions to boost performance when running on top of the Viridian hypervisor. We can expect Windows 7 to have a higher level of interaction with Viridian. The article goes on to make a few obvious predictions, but they are purely speculative. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryster Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Since most of the PCs in existence today are 32-bit, with so signs of a radical shift to 64-bit anytime soon, Windows 7 should be released in both 32-bit versions. I don't agree with that at all. I mean think about it.... Pretty much every PC sold now has a 64-bit processor, and 64-bit processors have been the mainstream for quite some time, ever since the Athlon 64 was released a couple of years ago. If you are running a non-64 bit processor now, you have a fairly old machine or a budget machine.. both of which would probably not be powerful enough for an operating system to be released in 2-3 years time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588703748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonRedMk Member Posted July 14, 2007 Member Share Posted July 14, 2007 Hey, Welcome to Neowin and thanks for the heads up. Plus, I love this author, he's expecting Microsoft to copy Apple with Spaces and Time Machine. Good call! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588703777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Tablas Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Hopefully Seven is the Vista we didn't get ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588703960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I don't agree with that at all. I mean think about it.... Pretty much every PC sold now has a 64-bit processor, and 64-bit processors have been the mainstream for quite some time, ever since the Athlon 64 was released a couple of years ago. If you are running a non-64 bit processor now, you have a fairly old machine or a budget machine.. both of which would probably not be powerful enough for an operating system to be released in 2-3 years time. I don't know anybody with 64 bit processors. My job just ordered a whole ass-load of new computers, and none are 64 bit. 32 bit will be around for quite a while. K thx. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588703969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benplace Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I don't know anybody with 64 bit processors. My job just ordered a whole ass-load of new computers, and none are 64 bit. 32 bit will be around for quite a while. K thx. What processors did you get? Almost every new PC made supports 64bit these days, a lot of people aren't even aware their computer has a 64bit processor. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588703979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMELTN Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 yeah I am very disappointed with Vista, and I think 7 will be the "good recovery" of Microsoft, like XP was. And unless we have some HUGE change with the way everything works with PC's in the next 2 yrs I don't see it being 64bit exclusively. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588703981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olemus Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 interesting, but changing the UI thats been around for X number of years, is a major rebranding, without the start button windows wouldnt be windows, so i dont think it will happen Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588703994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 We are totally replacing with 64 at work. Thats over 500 employees. K thx! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588703995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowRanger13 Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I don't know anybody with 64 bit processors. My job just ordered a whole ass-load of new computers, and none are 64 bit. 32 bit will be around for quite a while. K thx. the later Pentium 4s were 64bit, all the Pentium Ds were 64bit Core 2 Duo is 64bit, AMD Athlon 64 is 64bit. Even the really cheap processors (Intel's Celeron and AMD's Sempron) have 64bit now. The only CPU thats on the market thats not 64bit is the Core Duo witch most have moved on to Core 2 Duo the main computer that comes to mind that uses Core Duo is the Mac Mini. Almost all processors sold today are 64bit, maybe you should do your research before freaking out on someone. I have no doubt that it will be 64bit only 32bit uses can use Vista or even XP but Vista already like to have a lot of ram (2GB or more for it to run nice) I'm sure many computers sold in 2009 will have 4GB+ of ram and thus 64bit is needed, plus it will push 64bit developent for drivers and software. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588704021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Sonny-Crockett Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 nice Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588704025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stetson Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I don't agree with that at all. I mean think about it.... Pretty much every PC sold now has a 64-bit processor, and 64-bit processors have been the mainstream for quite some time, ever since the Athlon 64 was released a couple of years ago. If you are running a non-64 bit processor now, you have a fairly old machine or a budget machine.. both of which would probably not be powerful enough for an operating system to be released in 2-3 years time. The key words being "in existance". Sure, almost all PCs sold today and in the last few years have supported 64 bit, but the vast majority of computers in the world are much much older. Think about the small percentage of computers that can upgrade to Vista 32-bit, and imagine that if it were limited to 64! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588704033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooSH Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Core 2 Duo is now almost mainstream if you get a laptop over 600. "Core 2" is sixty four bit. (have no idea why i spelt that out) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588704050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted July 14, 2007 Veteran Share Posted July 14, 2007 The key words being "in existance". Sure, almost all PCs sold today and in the last few years have supported 64 bit, but the vast majority of computers in the world are much much older. Think about the small percentage of computers that can upgrade to Vista 32-bit, and imagine that if it were limited to 64! Anyone who hasn't upgraded their computer in the past 4 years either built a beast or doesn't need to be on the cutting edge. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588704054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnDewCodeRedFreak Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Seriously, it's time we make a move to 64-bit. 2^32 is over 4 billion while 2^64 is over 18 quintillion. The next computer I'm gonna have is gonna be purely 64-bit only. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588704062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIE Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I very much doubt a PC with a 32bit only CPU would even meet the minimum specs for Vienna when it comes out, i'm not too sure about the Core Duo's (1) but i think the best 32bit only CPU available is what, a 3200 Athlon XP? and i wouldn't fancy running vista on one of them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588704069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnDewCodeRedFreak Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Oh yeah, and didn't MS publicly disclose that Windows Server 2008 would be the LAST 32-bit OS, both client and server sides? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588704926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aden Frost Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 (edited) interesting, but changing the UI thats been around for X number of years, is a major rebranding, without the start button windows wouldnt be windows, so i dont think it will happen Windows Vista doesn't have a "Start" button. Its just an orb. Edited July 15, 2007 by Aden Frost Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588705019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkinfamous Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I don't know anybody with 64 bit processors. My job just ordered a whole ass-load of new computers, and none are 64 bit. 32 bit will be around for quite a while. K thx. That is very unlikely. While the computers may not be running 64bit, they were very likely 64-bit machines. Unless they were Core Duo mobile processors (Yonah), they were most likely 32bit, or old-as-hell, on the order of Athlon XP, or Pentium 4. You can still get some 32-bit laptops from places like dell/hp, with Core Duo, but everything else is 64bit capable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588705027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aden Frost Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 Oh yeah, and didn't MS publicly disclose that Windows Server 2008 would be the LAST 32-bit OS, both client and server sides? When XP was released, Vista (or rather Longhorn) was also supposed to be 64-bit only Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588705055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irratioпalgээk Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Great read. Thanks But I don't agree that Vista is dissapointing, Vista was a worthy upgrade and I prefer it to WinXP. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588705332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkinfamous Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Oh yeah, and didn't MS publicly disclose that Windows Server 2008 would be the LAST 32-bit OS, both client and server sides? No. The guy in the server division said that Server '08 would be the last 32-bit OS "they" would be producing. It isn't clear if he meant all of MS, or just the server people. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588706113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jay Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 When XP was released, Vista (or rather Longhorn) was also supposed to be 64-bit only Uhm yeah, tell me, how many people were 64-bit capable? Uhm, think, most had old athlon xps... My brother still has an athlon xp.... Most have 64-bit now and they dont even know that or they deny it... By 2009 the transition should be complete... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588706694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZonoBurk Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Uhm yeah, tell me, how many people were 64-bit capable? Uhm, think, most had old athlon xps... My brother still has an athlon xp.... Most have 64-bit now and they dont even know that or they deny it... By 2009 the transition should be complete... By that time we (PC users) should already be in the 128 bit transition. Lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588706799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aden Frost Posted July 16, 2007 Author Share Posted July 16, 2007 64-bit might become the norm in USA, but Windows is used worldwide, even in third world countries, and they won't be moving to 64-bit for at least another five to six years. BTW, what do you guys think of the new taskbar replacement in Windows 7 - "Clippings" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/574006-windows-seven-vienna/#findComment-588707103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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