Shmeegie88 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I know that there have been some previous threads about www.youvegotpost.com, but there are some issues here that need addressing. This freemail site's admin is openly reading its users mail, and deleting accounts at will. When queried about the legality of its actions, 'Amy' the supposed spokesman for the site maintains that they are an international site, and can do as they please. (I'm giving the sanitized version of their response, leaving out all abuse and foul language). I have seen previous comments about the site (on Alexa, I believe) that all emails sent from the system are bcc'd back to the site's operators. What gives here? Why is it that people are able to get away with this? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuka_t Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 why do people use youvegotpost anyway? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova_00 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 that Amy person is a real bitch, she needs a good smacking a round. Not just because of this but because of all the other crap she has said in the past. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 What does it say in their License Agreement? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
machima Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 That's why you get your own server and host your own mail. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 that Amy person is a real bitch, she needs a good smacking a round. Not just because of this but because of all the other crap she has said in the past. I thought Amy was a man? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova_00 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I thought Amy was a man? lol not with the pms that she has. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Where the hell are they based out of? I'm seeing UK, Malaysia, Canada (dear god no). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxBoy Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 i have an account there, but not like i was going to use it anyway.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Well I just read the TOS and Privacy Policy, and man these guys are a bunch of ######. When I'm up in Sudbury in September I'm dropping by their office, if it even exists. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuka_t Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Well I just read the TOS and Privacy Policy, and man these guys are a bunch of ######. When I'm up in Sudbury in September I'm dropping by their office, if it even exists. maybe on the way there you can check otu the phantom game console :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 maybe on the way there you can check otu the phantom game console :p I could have done that in March. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbet Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 lol not with the pms that she has. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmeegie88 Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 Check out what 'Amy Jackson', the supposed webmaster of YGP says to a user asking why (s)he erased his account; -----Original Message----- From: Will Henchy [mailto:xxxxx@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:23 PM To: webmaster@youvegotpost.com Subject: Privacy Concerns Dear Madame, It has recently come to my attention that you're reading the emails of youre "youvegotpost.com" users. I've reviewed your EULA, and it states nothing allowing you to do this. Even if your EULA did vest you with the power to read your users emails, you would be in violation of various privacy laws. You have attempted to hide behind being a "UK" company in order to justify this illegal act. Even if you are in fact a UK company, it is still illegal for you to read your users email, due to the EU Directive on Privacy and Electronic Communications. I suggest you cease this behanvior at once. For more information on the EU Directive on Privacy and Electronic Communications, please direct your web browser to http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2003/20032426.htm Regards, Will Henchy --------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:25:22 +0100, Client Services wrote: You are not a user. Go away. --------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Will Henchy [mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:33 PM To: webmaster@youvegotpost.com Subject: Re: Privacy Concerns Just a friendly warning -- it seems there are a good deal of folks out there who are not only aware of this law, but are quite annoyed at your lack of privacy. And I wouldn't be so sure I'm not a user. The lack of civility on your part you provide is quite disheartening. --------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:36:45 +0100, Client Services wrote: Given that I am deleted all of the accounts registered through the last 48 hours, you are not a user. You people make me sick. --------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Will Henchy [mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:38 PM To: webmaster@youvegotpost.com Subject: Re: Privacy Concerns And a violation of international laws makes me sick. --------------------------------------------------------------- wrote: Let me clue you in ######. There is no such thing as international law. ____________________________________________________ I'd like to thank Amy Jackson for volunteering to be the internet's Buffoon of the Week. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova_00 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 lol omg, I don't even know what to say without having the word filter, filter every word. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 So, whats goign to happen about this? Will they be shutdown :o ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Let me clue you in ######. There is no such thing as international law. Brilliant. Thats going into my sig. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 BAAAAAAAHAHAHA this makes ma laugh so much :rofl: please could someone post more stupid comments from these people, or even better, post their email address here so we can all join in the fun :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmeegie88 Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 No, I would imagine that they will not be shut down. And, it goes without saying that a great number of users are about to get f***ed in the process. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilzsche Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 ahahahahahaha.... i'm glad i chose not to set up an account... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 This web site is owned and operated by You've Got Post Limited, a UK corporation ("YGP"). Services provided to Canadian residents/citizens are provided by You've Got Post, Inc., a Canadian corporation, wholly-owned by You've Got Post Limited. You've Got Post Limited Level 36, Menara Citibank 165 Jalan Ampang Kuala Lumpur 50450 Malaysia Email Fax: +(60) 321.69.61.68 Registered Office(s): UK?Jupiter House, Calleva Park, AldermastoBerkshireb> RG7 8NN CA?125 Durham Street, SudbuOntario P3E3M9 --- now THATS what I call an international company :ro:blink:ink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxious Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Brilliant. Thats going into my sig. ahahahhah gmail may be spawn of the devil but at least they don't email me with abuse :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moeburn Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 dumdumdumdumdum... BALEETED! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Ok now THIS is interesting.... Company Details Name & Registered Office : YOU'VE GOT POST LIMITED 5 JUPITER HOUSE, CALLEVA PARK ALDERMASTON READING BERKS RG7 8NN Status :Active Company No. :04639775 Date of Incorporation : 17/01/2003 Country of Origin : United Kingdom Company Type: Private Limited Company Nature Of Business (SIC(92)): 7499 - Non-trading company Accounting Reference Date : 31/01 Last Accounts Made Up To : 31/01/2004 (DORMANT) Next Accounts Due : 30/11/2005 Last Return Made Up To : 17/01/2004 Next Return Due : 14/02/2005 Last Members List : 17/01/2004 Previous Names Date of Change : Previous Name : 18/05/2004 BAVARDAGE LIMITED 12/05/2004 DENNET LIMITED Branch Details There are no branches associated with this company. Oversea Company Information There are no Oversea Details associated with this company. am going to do a check on those previous names see what i come up with ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova_00 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 here is a review I found on alexa... Reviewer: A customer from AustraliaThe guy who runs the You've Got Post system is an absolute scumbag. He likes to use aliases - his current webmaster, Amy, is almost definitely a front. His name is Greg Lloyd Smith. Type his name into Google, see what pops up. After unsuccessfully trying to take a company called Frugalescrow public (total loss) he went on to bigger things. MPC Trading, the company allegedly behind Youvegotpost, also dabbles in small time porn sites and whatever else he thinks can turn a quick buck. All this is fueled by officialspin.com, the 'press release' site he uses to try to promote the companies he backs, and to flame people who look at what he does with a careful eye. GLS is the genius who originally conceived of registering www.amazon.com.gr in Greece, and then tried to sell it back to Amazon for millions. He was sued by Amazon using the RICO (Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organizations) stautes, and the URL now belongs to Amazon. GLS also tried to sue Nike, but nothing came of that either. This guy is a nasty piece of work. He is also a complete failure as a businessman. If you do a little research on You've Got Post you'll find that they claim to be based in the UK, yet their business name isn't registered there. Their press releases claim that they are in Malaysia, and their actual servers are located in the US. Judging from "her" emails, the ISP that "Amy" uses is from Greece...not really a surprise considering that GLS is from Greece (hence his registration of the amazon.com.gr domain years back.) Add to that that their "administrator" "Amy" has admitted to reading emails, and claims that its not illegal because "they aren't US based", and even claimed that there was no such thing as international law! These are scammers trying to get a quick buck. Use Yahoo or GMail. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/184460-youvegotpostcom-is-reading-personal-mail/#findComment-2389310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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