Mastertech Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Why Adblock is bad for the "free" Internet "I can understand and sympathize with the general distaste for pop-up advertisements. They are obstructive and annoying. But I do not sympathize with the distaste of standard banner advertisements that pay for all the free content we currently enjoy." So True. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianmac45 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 is this about firefox's extension? edit: yep. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocstar Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 What they dont know cant hurt them :) Probably can but i mean if they dont know if i seen the ad or not... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Ads or "dont forget to register" notices in programs I pay for **** me off. Popups and flashing ads irritate me. But in websites I leave banner ads on, not a big deal and the article is right they do need revenue. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELETEMYACCOUNTTTTTTTT Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 This is the second Firefox bashing article from that blog in a week. Seems a bit more than biased. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k22 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 plain banners are one thing, but banners with buzzing flies or other BS deserve to be blocked IMO. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted March 20, 2005 Global Moderator Share Posted March 20, 2005 then again, without ads, we'd have no neowin :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STanger Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 actually if sites were to block content to AdBlock users and if adblock could be enabled/disabled without a firefox restart or create an allowed sites list which AdBlock currently doesn't have would be suitable to me . it's the ads with the crosshairs and moving crap that I can't stand Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
samriley Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 i guess the writer ofdthe article doesnt know that adblock doesnt siop banner ads from being downloaded from the server unlike all the other banner blockers that you can get for other browsers. all it does is hide the banner, so really adblock is good as it still registers as a view. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 The way I see it is ad's do not work on me what so ever. So by me blocking them I'am not wasting their bandwidth by downloading banners/ad's which I will NEVER click on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelob Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Banner ads are find by me except for the ones that talk. It scared the crap outta me and annoys me that i load a page and i here "Hello, i can say anything you type" i type, "STFU you dumb B*tch." That and the ones where its like... "Hey im blah blah blah" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azadre Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I pay to access the internet. So I do with it what I wish. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 actually if sites were to block content to AdBlock users and if adblock could be enabled/disabled without a firefox restart or create an allowed sites list which AdBlock currently doesn't have would be suitable to me .it's the ads with the crosshairs and moving crap that I can't stand 585640892[/snapback] Not to mention the ones that start blaring music or sound like the movie trailers on cinescape.com, .... in the middle of the night or when your listening to music. i guess the writer ofdthe article doesnt know that adblock doesnt siop banner ads from being downloaded from the server unlike all the other banner blockers that you can get for other browsers. all it does is hide the banner, so really adblock is good as it still registers as a view. I believe most banner systems work on click throughs though. Not all but most of the ones that actually pay anythign anyways, were click through systems last i looked. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chacho Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 (edited) Lets use a recent, rough estimate of ~6% of internet users who use Firefox. Now, a fraction of these users (not sure of the statistic) use the extension And, a fraction of THOSE users have an effective filterset. How can this be so devastating at this point in time? Edited March 20, 2005 by chacho Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted March 20, 2005 MVC Share Posted March 20, 2005 I'm not against ads. Without them we'd all be paying for a subscription to this site. I don’t think people should block banner ads. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chmsant Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I wont block them from NW but everywhere else i dont pay attention anyway Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chacho Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 actually if sites were to block content to AdBlock users and if adblock could be enabled/disabled without a firefox restart or create an allowed sites list which AdBlock currently doesn't have would be suitable to me .it's the ads with the crosshairs and moving crap that I can't stand 585640892[/snapback] I only know of a handful of sites that block ad-blockers, one of which is EnvironmentalChemistry.com. As for your other statement, adblock CAN be enabled/disabled without a restart, and there's a hotkey as well (ctrl+shift+b), so you don't even have to open up the prefs. I agree with the "allowed sites" idea. I would certainly include neowin in that list, if the feature were added. I'm not against ads. Without them we'd all be paying for a subscription to this site. I don?t think people should block banner ads. 585640975[/snapback] Without adblocking, however, there would be no incentives for companies to produce/use less intrusive advertisement methods. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotix Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Hmmm.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585640997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 i like the text ads like the google but i hate anything that has a picture or those stupid flash ads :x Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585641000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chacho Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Hmmm.... 585640997[/snapback] Hmm indeed, Fotix. Nice find there. Mastertech = troll. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585641005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuarterSwede Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 The way I see it is ad's do not work on me what so ever. So by me blocking them I'am not wasting their bandwidth by downloading banners/ad's which I will NEVER click on. 585640910[/snapback] Exactly. I never click on ads. Why you ask? Because the crap they advertise I don't want or need! The way I see is like this: marketing is there for a reason. Ex. I was looking through the current edition of Popular Science Magazine when I came across a very good looking tasteful ad. It had a catchy one liner and actually got me to read at least some of the ad to find out what this particular product could do. Ads on the internet, for the most part, have nothing to do with they website you are looking at and are generally pretty useless (with the exception of Google Ads ... they are actually helpful and aren't intrusive). So, for sites to get me to stop blocking ads, they will have to make them much more attractice, less flashy and all around pertain to the website I am viewing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585641008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkv Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 more than 80% of ppl use IE so its not gonna hurt 'em that much atleast not now(this might change very soon ;)) i use firefox with adblock though :p. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585641009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastertech Posted March 20, 2005 Author Share Posted March 20, 2005 Troll? I like the Blog. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585641011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted March 20, 2005 MVC Share Posted March 20, 2005 Without adblocking, however, there would be no incentives for companies to produce/use? less intrusive advertisement methods. 585640986[/snapback] Nice idea, but the only incentives adblocking gives advertising companies is to come up with ways of getting around the adblocking software and probably making ads more intrusive to users. They don't, afterall, make money buy making ads you arn't going to notice. Plus, while these companies try and find workarounds to adblocking software they are more likely to find holes in web browsers giving them new means of placing adware and spyware software on users systems. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585641019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamend Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Hmmm.... 585640997[/snapback] What's your point? Banner ads are find by me except for the ones that talk. It scared the crap outta me and annoys me that i load a page and i here "Hello, i can say anything you type" i type, "STFU you dumb B*tch."That and the ones where its like... "Hey im blah blah blah" 585640935[/snapback] "Hi, I've got a secret website that's so hardcore!" =) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298619-why-adblock-is-bad-for-the-free-internet/#findComment-585641020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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