P!P Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 It appears that Vista no longer uses boot.ini. It ignores boot.ini. Which is fine cause the new bootloader is cool but how do you change boot options now? In boot.ini it talks about BCDEDIT.exe but I'm unable to launch it in XP or Vista. Anyone know how to change the boot options? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JnCoKiLLa Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I noticed that a while ago......It seeem intresting...Been wonder how to change it a bit Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586954731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted December 22, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 22, 2005 run bcdedit from the command prompt. give it /? to see the options. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586954856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBunny Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I thought you could edit the boot options through System Propertes >> Advanced >> Startup and Recovery, etc. Just like in WinXP. It works fine for me, as in I was able to change the default OS in the Vista boot manager to WinXP and set the prompt time to 2 seconds. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586954859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
P!P Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 I thought you could edit the boot options through System Propertes >> Advanced >> Startup and Recovery, etc. Just like in WinXP. It works fine for me, as in I was able to change the default OS in the Vista boot manager to WinXP and set the prompt time to 2 seconds. Yeah, you can do that but you can't remove or change any of the boot listings. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586954877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hiroshi- Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Basically whats happening is that it keeps restoring two files as the primary boot.ini for the NTFS boot loader, and the Vista bootloader. If your dual booting 5270.9, and XP, to remove Vista completely.. follow these steps.. You should have a boot folder in your xp partition, go to Command Prompt, move yourself in command prompt (cd .. to go back, cd dir to go to the right dir) untill you get to C:\boot, type in fixntfs -xp, This will write a new boot.ini.. Then delete bootsec.bak, boot.bak, and the boot directory. Reboot, you'll boot directly into XP, if you feel uncomfortable with the text about BCDEdit.exe, just delete it, but be sure to leave the [bOOT LOADER] or something similar and below there or your system will not be able to boot. I know its rough right now but down the road it'll be fixed. Just before to erase the bootsec.bak, boot.bak, and boot folders before dual booting with newer Vista installations. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586959618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krome Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 bcdedit doesn't work for me.. I did try and it says I don't have the privilege to edit the bootup list or something... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586959622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumy Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 login as Administrator and you'll have the privilege Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586961009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Awesome. Vista is looking better all the time. Bout time they got rid of more of that legacy garbage. I always thought the Boot.ini was horrible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586961016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betadan Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 yeah was easy to clean up those rogue entries from previos installs Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586961027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bummpr Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 login as Administrator and you'll have the privilege I'm logged in as Administrator but I still can't get permission to run BCDEDIT...I also can't do much file manipulation on the other hard drives on my PC. It's as if I'm a crippled Admin...how can I get full control??? I also can't get the dang dual boot to work...I have 4 different alternatives at bootup time but they all take me to my Vista install...I can't get back to booting up XP or Win2003 (all OS's are on seperate hard drives). I tried running the NTFSFIX -xp -all but that didn't fix anything. I'm trying to get a copy of boot.ini from the boot.bak file but I'm not allowed to because of the restricted permissions. Any clear steps I can take to get back to a multi boot configuration?? Thanks for any hlp you can give me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586988255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropcircles Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I also couldn't get BCDEDIT to work. As far as deleting the Vista partitian (dual boot with XP on seperate partitian) I use Acronis Disk Director Suite and it takes about 30 seconds. After reboot I have to edit my Startup and Recovery boot.ini to read: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect And I'm back in business. If you don't edit the boot.ini it will continually give you the bootloader menu from XP that's branded in XP from the Vista install. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586988708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy80 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 if all of them are on different hdd's you could always remove the hdd its booting to and it will load the other one...or it should anyway Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586989196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCheese Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I think the new BCDEDIT sucks. I had to use it to change my default OS. Boot.ini is just much easier. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-586999386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpu killer Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I think the new BCDEDIT sucks. I had to use it to change my default OS. Boot.ini is just much easier. Thank you, my thoughts exactly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587000753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
y_notm Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I think the new BCDEDIT sucks. I had to use it to change my default OS. Boot.ini is just much easier. So don't use it? msconfig works just fine for configuring the boot menu as of 5270 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587001032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyandy Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 See http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/driver/tips/Debug_Vista.mspx for some info about BCD and BCDedit. Notice that you can control it through WMI which should make it easier then boot.ini for remote administration (see references at the bottom of that page) :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587003486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunknbass Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 so how do i remove an entry. i have 3 entries. i have 1. win x64 2. (current vista) Vista and 3. is a messed up vista installation i want to remove the setting for the 3rd which was a messed up vista install, and possibly change the defualt os to my 1. (x64) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587005901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunknbass Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 so how do i remove an entry. i have 3 entries. i have 1. win x64 2. (current vista) Vista and 3. is a messed up vista installation i want to remove the setting for the 3rd which was a messed up vista install, and possibly change the defualt os to my 1. (x64) does anyone know how to edit this thing? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587013127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raskren Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 bcdedit.exe /delete {id of boot entry to remove} Not exactly hard. Try bcdedit.exe /? to read the help documentation as a previous poster suggested. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587015081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhaligani Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I keep a copy of all my original XP root files. When I want to return to my original, and single OS, I overwrite the whole root with those I have saved. Vista gone for ever. Then you can reformat the partition/disk where Vista was originally installed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587015171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartAfterDark Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 How can I add XP to the boot menu? I can't boot into XP even if I sellect the primary master where XP is installed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587268562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crewxp Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 ditto on this one. I'ld like to know how to get WindowsXp back on my other partition. But I don't want to delete Vista. I just want a menu to come up saying which one to boot. (Xp default for now) Thanks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587272318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayamaniac Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I have XP on C and Vista on D, how do I rename the menu names on the new bootloader? Right now it says: "Legacy something" which is XP and "Microsoft Windows" which is Vista. I like to rename them to: Windows XP Pro Windows Vista What commands in bcdedit.exe to change the names? Or is there an easier way? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587313645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty27 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 This site is pretty useful for editing BCDedit http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvi...719d4af778.mspx I don't like BCDedit either but hope that's because I'm not familar with it. It will make it easier for some to remote change your settings if you get into trouble and should allow for a nice app that'll make it all easy. Mind you if MS are dropping EFI instead of BIOS why couldn't they have left the boot.ini alone aswell for now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/411005-vista-no-more-bootini/#findComment-587315418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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