Pootis Spencer Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 With Windows 8.1 I could use gimagex to transfer the WIM image to a USB and run it. However with Windows 10 I am unable to do this because when I use the command 'bcdboot.exe X:\Windows /s X: /f ALL' to install the boot files it fails with bcryptprimitives.dll error. Does anyone know how to fix this so I can run Windows 10 from the USB. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnónna Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On 24/04/2015 at 17:21, wivelden said: With Windows 8.1 I could use gimagex to transfer the WIM image to a USB and run it. However with Windows 10 I am unable to do this because when I use the command 'bcdboot.exe X:\Windows /s X: /f ALL' to install the boot files it fails with bcryptprimitives.dll error. Does anyone know how to fix this so I can run Windows 10 from the USB. I used the windows 7 usb dvd download tool to install windows 10 onto a usb stick http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool Osiris and b10h4z4rd 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootis Spencer Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM97 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Why aren't you just using WinToFlash or Rufus ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootis Spencer Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Rufus wont allow me to install to a USB Hard Drive only flash drive. WinToFlash doesn't do Windows To Go. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM97 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 On 25/04/2015 at 09:20, wivelden said: Rufus wont allow me to install to a USB Hard Drive only flash drive. WinToFlash doesn't do Windows To Go. Ok . You might want to take a closer look here : http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool . Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPreston Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Ok first constructive input, Are you using the enterprise preview or consumer ? And have you tried creating the boot partition from another build ? Ian W and T3X4S 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootis Spencer Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 On 25/04/2015 at 11:01, TPreston said: Ok first constructive input, Are you using the enterprise preview or consumer ? And have you tried creating the boot partition from another build ? Consumer. Not sure how to create the boot files from another build. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
limok Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Are you running an efi booted system or bios. I know that applying the bcdboot to an image from an efi system is problamtic - for me anyway. If you have a system that boots from bios you may have better luck. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
br0adband Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 In This Thread: people that just don't understand what Windows To Go actually is. What it isn't: a way to install Windows (any version since Windows 7) onto another device aka using a USB stick with Windows installation files on it, booting from it, then installing the OS onto the other device What it is: a way to actually install Windows directly on a USB stick or even a portable hard drive and then run it from there in a "portable" sense, being able to take a full blown Windows 10 (or 7, or 8/8.1) with you just as if it were a Linux LiveUSB stick - it's basically the same thing but it's Windows. Yes it's possible, and yes it's been supported since Windows 7 days (but it requires Enterprise to make it functional). I'm going to assume - and we all know what that means - that Windows 10 will have the same/similar requirement and it won't allow the consumer version (even Professional or whatever they end up calling it) to make the Windows To Go installation; it will more than likely be an Enterprise-only solution because of licensing concerns. OP: as time passes, more info and a more functional Windows 10 To Go installer will appear but again it will most likely require you to be running Windows 10 Enterprise to be able to create it properly. timster, Eric, UnnDunn and 7 others 10 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
timster Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 On 25/04/2015 at 09:20, wivelden said: Rufus wont allow me to install to a USB Hard Drive only flash drive. WinToFlash doesn't do Windows To Go. There's an option in Rufus to display USB Hard Drives. T3X4S 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authentic X Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 On 25/04/2015 at 13:57, br0adband said: In This Thread: people that just don't understand what Windows To Go actually is. What it isn't: a way to install Windows (any version since Windows 7) onto another device aka using a USB stick with Windows installation files on it, booting from it, then installing the OS onto the other device What it is: a way to actually install Windows directly on a USB stick or even a portable hard drive and then run it from there in a "portable" sense, being able to take a full blown Windows 10 (or 7, or 8/8.1) with you just as if it were a Linux LiveUSB stick - it's basically the same thing but it's Windows. Yes it's possible, and yes it's been supported since Windows 7 days (but it requires Enterprise to make it functional). I'm going to assume - and we all know what that means - that Windows 10 will have the same/similar requirement and it won't allow the consumer version (even Professional or whatever they end up calling it) to make the Windows To Go installation; it will more than likely be an Enterprise-only solution because of licensing concerns. OP: as time passes, more info and a more functional Windows 10 To Go installer will appear but again it will most likely require you to be running Windows 10 Enterprise to be able to create it properly. I was wondering why it didn't work,that explains it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootis Spencer Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 On 25/04/2015 at 14:10, timster said: There's an option in Rufus to display USB Hard Drives. *Bangs head on table* Stupid me for not looking. On 25/04/2015 at 13:57, br0adband said: In This Thread: people that just don't understand what Windows To Go actually is. What it isn't: a way to install Windows (any version since Windows 7) onto another device aka using a USB stick with Windows installation files on it, booting from it, then installing the OS onto the other device What it is: a way to actually install Windows directly on a USB stick or even a portable hard drive and then run it from there in a "portable" sense, being able to take a full blown Windows 10 (or 7, or 8/8.1) with you just as if it were a Linux LiveUSB stick - it's basically the same thing but it's Windows. Yes it's possible, and yes it's been supported since Windows 7 days (but it requires Enterprise to make it functional). I'm going to assume - and we all know what that means - that Windows 10 will have the same/similar requirement and it won't allow the consumer version (even Professional or whatever they end up calling it) to make the Windows To Go installation; it will more than likely be an Enterprise-only solution because of licensing concerns. OP: as time passes, more info and a more functional Windows 10 To Go installer will appear but again it will most likely require you to be running Windows 10 Enterprise to be able to create it properly. You can do it without the enterprise version as I have done it with Windows 8.1 as show in the link I posted above. I'm guessing they need to iron a few bugs out with Windows 10 before it works again. T3X4S 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootis Spencer Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 On 25/04/2015 at 14:10, timster said: There's an option in Rufus to display USB Hard Drives. Ok I have a quick question about this. I have two partitions on the USB hard drive. I need to keep the 2nd partition and use the first as Windows. In Rufus it shows multiple partitions G: H: (2TB) at the top. How do I select which one it installs too? I don't want to lose any data on the second partition. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596829974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
limok Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 On 25/04/2015 at 17:23, wivelden said: Ok I have a quick question about this. I have two partitions on the USB hard drive. I need to keep the 2nd partition and use the first as Windows. In Rufus it shows multiple partitions G: H: (2TB) at the top. How do I select which one it installs too? I don't want to lose any data on the second partition. I've just got this working by not using rufus - it errored out with the bcdcrypt error. This is because efi boots off a fat32 partition and not ntfs. To get round this create system partitions as per Microsoft articles (can't link as on phone but Google for disk part efi partitions) and then use image to write the imagex to your ntfs partition. Once done use bcdboot setting source windows directory as your ntfs partition and destination as your fat32 partition. If you need more descriptive assistance then let me know. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596830092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootis Spencer Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 On 25/04/2015 at 21:01, limok said: I've just got this working by not using rufus - it errored out with the bcdcrypt error. This is because efi boots off a fat32 partition and not ntfs. To get round this create system partitions as per Microsoft articles (can't link as on phone but Google for disk part efi partitions) and then use image to write the imagex to your ntfs partition. Once done use bcdboot setting source windows directory as your ntfs partition and destination as your fat32 partition. If you need more descriptive assistance then let me know. Could you possible explain further for me please on how to correctly partition my 40GB partition? Thanks Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596830552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
limok Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 In terms of partitioning your drive with keeping your data I've not tested so I can't guarantee it's going to work. The below code is from the TechNet website and shows you how to partition a new disk with the default efi partitions. if your existing disk is a gpt disk then you can probably skip the second and third line in the code, otherwise I recommend you use a blank usb disk for windows to go - at least for testing. Important - Just know that using the clean command will wipe out all partitions and data! Run command prompt in admin mode and type diskapart. type list disk to find your disk number and substitute "select disk 0" with your disk number. select disk 0 clean convert gpt create partition primary size=300 format quick fs=ntfs label="Windows RE tools" assign letter="T" create partition efi size=100 rem == Note: for Advanced Format Generation One drives, change to size=260. format quick fs=fat32 label="System" assign letter="S" create partition msr size=128 create partition primary format quick fs=ntfs label="Windows" assign letter="W" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596830748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwu624 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Just wondering, wouldn't it be faster and easier to just select the Fat32 partition in Rufus before creating the Windows to Go Windows 10 installation? I'm a newbie at this, and I encountered the same error message as the first poster in Rufus as well. Would the USB flash drive not be recognized if partitioned as Fat32, or will there be errors running Windows 10 on the fat 32 partitioned WTG flash drive? Please advise. Thanks, edwu624 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596848798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPreston Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 There is so much bad info guides out there about windows to go, Make sure you have the right hardware first. You cant install any post vista windows on a fat32 partition UEFI computers need to boot from a fat32 partition Therefore you cant have windows to go (that can boot from both uefi and bios pcs) on a regular USB drive Don't use Rufus it was never designed for this, youll either need an external hdd to install windows to go on or a special usb key that shows up as a fixed disk (most don't). Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596848814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SionicIon Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 On 25/04/2015 at 13:57, br0adband said: In This Thread: people that just don't understand what Windows To Go actually is. What it isn't: a way to install Windows (any version since Windows 7) onto another device aka using a USB stick with Windows installation files on it, booting from it, then installing the OS onto the other device What it is: a way to actually install Windows directly on a USB stick or even a portable hard drive and then run it from there in a "portable" sense, being able to take a full blown Windows 10 (or 7, or 8/8.1) with you just as if it were a Linux LiveUSB stick - it's basically the same thing but it's Windows. Yes it's possible, and yes it's been supported since Windows 7 days (but it requires Enterprise to make it functional). I'm going to assume - and we all know what that means - that Windows 10 will have the same/similar requirement and it won't allow the consumer version (even Professional or whatever they end up calling it) to make the Windows To Go installation; it will more than likely be an Enterprise-only solution because of licensing concerns. OP: as time passes, more info and a more functional Windows 10 To Go installer will appear but again it will most likely require you to be running Windows 10 Enterprise to be able to create it properly. Windows 7 has no support for booting from USB devices. It was possible using third party tools such as PWBoot. Windows Embedded Standard 7 had supported this scenario though. Windows 8 introduced Windows To Go in the enterprise SKU. But probably doesn't work with Windows 10 because of so many changes and will only be fully supported once RTMed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596848822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Supervisor Posted May 18, 2015 Supervisor Share Posted May 18, 2015 Hello, IronKey was selling 32GB USB 3.0 drives with Windows 10 To Go pre-installed at the Microsoft Ignite conference. You might want to check and see if they are available via company's web site (assuming it wasn't a show-specific product). Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1254592-windows-10-windows-to-go-usb/#findComment-596853868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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