spain08 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) The Windows Live Team is currently working on Wave 4, that is, the 2010 versions of Windows Live. This includes both web services and Windows Live Essentials. Let?s take a closer look at Windows Live Messenger 2010 Milestone 2. We can expect the final result to look somewhat different, but what we?re going to look at gives you an idea what the focus is on in the 2010 version. All info and screenshots ony in my page: http://spain08.deviantart.com/ :D :D Microsoft Gold Certified Main window First of all, we notice that the window is now wider and separated into two columns. The left column contains social news and activity streams, including the What?s New Feed, while the right-hand section includes your Windows Live Messenger contact list and an advertisement area. This window split can be reverted using the button on the top right edge. Several details are interesting: Social streams There are several streams shown, including the What?s New Feed. It is split into a ?highlights? section and a timeline, ?recent.? The menu design of these streams resembles Microsoft Zune-style. More networks addable Looking at the bottom right corner, we see: ?Connected to: Windows Live | Add.? Whether you can add more IM networks there or whether you can use it to connect to social networks like Facebook or Twitter, remains to be seen. Contact list revamped We still see the same square status indicators and the same wavy default scene, but there are overall less icons and more text indicators. Take a quick look at the menu bar above the contacts?we see the category filters and an Add menu. Bigger advertisement area Instead of the flat ad area in Messenger 2009, we have a huge ad there in the format 300?250 pixels. I wonder whether that generates more revenue, or what the decision was about. Tabbed chats We waited for it for ages, now we get it: Chat windows are tabbed. No more 7 independent windows to handle with, but one with 7 tabs. Other chat clients had this function for long, and for years it was Messenger Plus! Live that added tabs to Messenger. In fact, the tabs design reminds me of Internet Explorer. Summary Several expected elements are missing in these previews. For example, Live Mesh is expected to integrate into Windows Live SkyDrive, and along with Office Web Apps, file and document sharing should be a visible part of Messenger as well. Windows Live Messenger is going through the same metamorphosis that Internet Explorer has gone through. With IE, this phase had started some years ago when the IE team got up and started development of Internet Explorer 7. Suddenly all interesting features that other browsers had, became part of IE as well. With Messenger it is the same: It all started with Windows Live Wave 3, and Wave 4 continues this. Strange, isn?t it? All info and screenshots ony in my page: http://spain08.deviantart.com/ :D :D Microsoft Gold Certified Edited December 20, 2009 by spain08 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 that looks good. any1 got a leaked ver to download? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 looks like someone puked up a rainbow. Way to busy imo. ChazEG 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaris Veteran Posted December 20, 2009 Veteran Share Posted December 20, 2009 Grex said: looks like someone puked up a rainbow. Way to busy imo. I would expect you can probably collapse that new left hand column Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OOOOOOOO Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Collapse time baby! I will NEVER have all that on screen. I am all for ads, and revenue for the company as I get Live Messenger for free. I think it's only right I should see ads. But all that extra crap? No way. I hide tabs, hide favorites, groups etc ... I will not be viewing any of that stuff. lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 If I hear him say 'Microsoft Gold Certified' or 'Microsoft Professional Certified' one more time, I'll scream. :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruNo_ Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 i really hope this "social highlights" on the left could be an optional feature... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Antaris said: I would expect you can probably collapse that new left hand column That would be better. It would be nice if you could only display certain things(boxes) of some sort. Though it didn't look like it from the screen shot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
coresx Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I really wonder if that social stream on the left will even be optional. Microsoft are on a social course with Windows Live so it wouldn't surprise me to see it pushed hard like this. The one thing I do like is copying the Zune UI design, very clean and clear. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted December 20, 2009 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 20, 2009 Oh...Well, it's not too bad I guess. Hopefully there'll be an option to remove the Social pane. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
master2k27 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 whish they merged the log in (profile pick) and the contact window into one (shown on windows 7) ^ that bit Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneNutter MVC Posted December 20, 2009 MVC Share Posted December 20, 2009 To be honest that looks horrible, but then again I always thought Windows Live did without A-patch. Can we get a screenshot of the tabbed chats? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Wizard Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Just from the previews, I prefer the current one, but it shouldn't be too bad if the left pane is collapsible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591998992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasethebase Reporter Posted December 20, 2009 Reporter Share Posted December 20, 2009 Yup, I'll be collapsing the left hand tab too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Elі Subscriber² Posted December 20, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted December 20, 2009 I think that looks horrible, and I do hope the social panel is collapsible too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1911 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I think they are going overboard. Please no more bloat !!!! I am ultra-happy with the current WLM. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 That is absolutely dreadful, its clear MS are trying to piggy back off Messenger to try and boost their other online business's. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted December 20, 2009 Supervisor Share Posted December 20, 2009 I don't believe that the rainbow color scheme is default. Looks like it is a custom background. http://eos8.deviantart.com/art/Windows-145047385 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris123NT Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Damn what ever happened to the days where IM clients were minimalistic and let you get right to the point, which is to chat. Enough of this flashy "in your face" crap lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 20, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted December 20, 2009 Bloat bloat and more bloat! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted December 20, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted December 20, 2009 master2k27 said: whish they merged the log in (profile pick) and the contact window into one (shown on windows 7) ^ that bit I wish they would just merge those 2 windows.. It is very annoying having two.. and one of them is very useless. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenPirate Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Chris123NT said: Damn what ever happened to the days where IM clients were minimalistic and let you get right to the point, which is to chat. Enough of this flashy "in your face" crap lol. Google Talk :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xilo Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Can you say bloat? :x Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XmoshiX Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Tony. said: If I hear him say 'Microsoft Gold Certified' or 'Microsoft Professional Certified' one more time, I'll scream. :| He wont be for long if anymore of these screenshots leak, unless that's something he made up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-591999908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiraeternal Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Yea I think I noticed he wants us all to know he's an MCP......wait....isn't he an MCP?! Oh yea, he's an MCP! It says it there, there, and there.....and there........and there................. Idiot Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857214-windows-live-wave-4-milestone-2-some-screenshots-and-info/#findComment-592000036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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