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Valve reveals Half-Life 2 subscription plans

Marcel Klum   on 04 September 2003 - 09:52 · 41 comments & 3124 views

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Developer Valve has revealed that it plans to offer a $9.99 monthly subscription system to purchasers of Half-Life 2, as well as releasing three separate versions of the game - which has now seemingly slipped to November.

In an email, later confirmed as authentic, posted to forums on Half-Life2.net, and a later follow-up on the forum thread, Valve boss Gabe Newell confirmed that the company intends to offer an optional subscription which will grant members free additional content for Half-Life 2, delivered over the Steam digital distribution system.

This content would include Valve's official modifications such as Counter-Strike 2 and Team Fortress 2, and any other content released officially for the game during its life span - which will also be made available to non-subscribers for an additional fee.

The subscription plan is entirely optional, but according to Newell, "we're pretty sure that the $9.95 guys are going to get the better value, as we've been pretty good over the years at generating a lot of content."

The company is also planning to offer three different SKUs of Half-Life 2 at launch, with a basic version of the game stripped of its multiplayer and mod capabilities being the cheapest, followed by a "standard" edition which includes these capabilities, and a "collector's edition" which will feature what Newell describes as "lots of cool bonus stuff".

Some of these versions will be available for download on Valve's own Steam service, which is sure to be watched with interest by publishers and retailers alike - as it represents the first concerted effort by a developer to bypass the traditional value chain and deal directly with its customers.

However, both gamers and interested industry observers may have to wait longer than expected to see Half-Life 2. Although Vivendi maintains that the release date for the game is "TBC", and Valve issued assurances at ECTS last week that the game would make its ship date at the end of September, UK retail chain GAME this week informed customers who had pre-ordered the game that it has slipped back to November.

It's not clear whether this is based on new information received by GAME which is not being circulated widely by Vivendi, or whether the company is simply responding to earlier rumours that the game had slipped - which were denied categorically by Valve.

News source: Gamesindustry.biz


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#1 TranceSphere on 04 Sep 2003 - 10:10
(2 replies) #2 Solarix on 04 Sep 2003 - 10:22
what the fluck is this crap!!!!!
#2.1 antareus on 04 Sep 2003 - 11:33
Freakin WAHHHHH.

You knew the mod teams worked for Valve, there's no reason why it won't be very high quality content. If you were to buy all the mods as they appeared in stores then you'd end spending more over time.

There's no L in your curse word either, please learn to spell.
#2.2 RauL on 04 Sep 2003 - 16:05
fluck! = f**ck
#3 destrox on 04 Sep 2003 - 10:26
Seriously... are they out of thier ****ing minds?

When has subscriptions ever NOT turned gamers AGAINST the publisher/producer???????

BAD VALVE, BAD.

9.99??? 120$ a year??? The special edition better not cost more then 30$ then if thier expecting me to chuck 120 f'in bucks thier way.
#4 kussie on 04 Sep 2003 - 10:28
Of course you do relise that the subscirtion works out cheaper. Because you gain accesss to all games/mods that valve release on Steam now in the future such as TF2 etc because it is a seperate game thus no additional fees for other games on steam
(2 replies) #5 GiB WaKeR on 04 Sep 2003 - 10:30
Take from http://www.planethalflife.com/...

A fan by the name of Kamakiri mailed Valve's Gabe Newell about those "pay to play" rumors, and received the following response (which has been confirmed as being legit):

Gabe Newell: "Here's my current thinking: Some people want to buy Half-Life 2 in a store. Right now we have three SKUs planned at three price points. One will have single-player only and not play MODs and we think of that as the mass market SKU (sold mainly at the Costcos and Walmarts of the world). The second is our traditional single-player plus multiplayer SKU that runs MODs and is sold at places like EBX. The third is the collector's edition SKU with lots of cool bonus stuff for people who like cool bonus stuff.

In the Steam world, some people will want to buy it once, like the middle SKU above. Other people will want to buy the game on subscription (e.g. $9.95/month). The good news for the "buy it once" crowd is, well, they only have to pay once. The bad news is that when we come out with new content (expansion products, TF 2, and presumably other games) then they have to pay separately for those. We're pretty sure that the $9.95 guys are going to get the better value, as we've been pretty good over the years at generating a lot of content.

Now nobody has done this before, so we're scratching our heads and massaging the plans to make sure we've got the best set of options. We've had some feedback that we should sell the top SKU (single-player only no MODs) on Steam, and my reaction has been "yeah, right, for the three people in the world who have a broadband connection, are sophisticated enough to purchase software over the Internet, but DON'T want to play MODs and multiplayer". Some people have said "I want a subscription, but I think the box and the manual are cool, so what about sending me those" and I think that's pretty interesting and we're trying to figure out what to do for them (needless to say Sierra isn't exactly jumping for joy at the idea of selling us boxes so people don't buy Half-Life 2 in stores).

But nowhere has there been a suggestion that people pay in the store and then pay a monthly fee on top of that a la the MMORPG."

And Gabe makes this follow-up response in this forum thread:

"The various SKUs will be available at the other stores. It's just how we think of them (we think of the lowest price one as the "Walmart" SKU even though Walmart will probably be the biggest single seller of all three SKUs given their volume).

TF2 isn't a MOD, correct. However the subscription will be for anything we make. So when TF2 ships, the subscribers get it as part of their subscription.

We've been talking with retailers about the retail SKUs for a long time. Steam pricing was what I was trying to explain. Steam options seemed to require an explanation of the retail SKUs."

This clears up a lot, and I think this is the first public mention of the collector's special super edition. Oh, if you don't know what an SKU is, "SKU stands for Stock Keeping Unit and is a number associated with a product for inventory purposes. Each product must have a SKU, and each SKU must be unique.

And a later followup...

"For people who buy the less expensive version, they can always upgrade to MOD and multiplayer using Steam. The price difference will be about the difference there was between the two versions.

The theory is that it helps out retailers like Walmart who have very broad reach into customer bases that don't care about multiplayer and who are very price conscious. Rather than having to wait a year for the product price to come down, there's a special version for them on day one."
#5.1 GiB WaKeR on 04 Sep 2003 - 10:31
They also state that Gabe Newell said (only 2 or 3 days ago) that HL2 WILL be released on September 30. Guess time will tell...
#5.2 antareus on 04 Sep 2003 - 11:35
Very savvy marketing on Gabe's part.
(6 replies) #6 Tom Servo on 04 Sep 2003 - 10:42
To #2 and #3:

LEARN TO ****ING READ! YOU EITHER BUY THE GAMEBOX OR THE SUBSCRIPTION! THE ONLY ADVANTAGE OF THE SUBSCRIPTION IS THAT YOU GET AUTOMATICALLY ACCESS TO COMMERCIAL PAY MODS, WHICH AREN'T INCLUDED IN THE GAMEBOX!!!! CLEAR???

Goddamnit!
#6.1 destrox on 04 Sep 2003 - 11:01
Learn to ****ing chill as well.

Doesnt remove the fact that your paying 120 f'ing bucks for some damn mods.

YES I KNOW ITS OPTIONAL

(and to stop anyone else from ranting on again from my comment, YES I WAS WRONG. Tom is right.)

Last edited by 11909 on 04 Sep 2003 - 11:11
#6.2 kussie on 04 Sep 2003 - 11:26
Not just mods either. But anything released on steam. Such as TF2 and other products they release in the future.
#6.3 Tom Servo on 04 Sep 2003 - 11:35
Yes, you get TF2, DOD2 and CS2 served on a tablet using that subscription, isn't it a nice deal if you have to consider that you need to pay a full games price for TF2, and that gameboxes of the mods will require you to pay too.

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Learn to ****ing chill as well.


ESAD.

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Doesnt remove the fact that your paying 120 f'ing bucks for some damn mods.


YOU'RE ****ING NOT!!!!

You need to pay for all damn mods like DOD2, CS2 and also for the TF2 game if you buy them in a damn store! So you don't need to get a goddamn Steam subscription to get those mods. Free mods won't be charged for! Idiot!
#6.4 Spyder on 04 Sep 2003 - 14:25
tom save your breath.. all the stupid will understand when the game comes out. words dont make sense to the stupid.
#6.5 Tom Servo on 04 Sep 2003 - 15:02
Don't expect that today. Some wonderful changes (sarcasm) in SWG today pushed me over the edge for the next 24hrs!
#6.6 Spyder on 04 Sep 2003 - 15:21
lmfao well then.. /me gets the popcorn
#7 phen!x on 04 Sep 2003 - 10:57
Even more latelness. GG!
(1 reply) #8 phen!x on 04 Sep 2003 - 10:57
Tom Servo, nice one
#8.1 Tom Servo on 04 Sep 2003 - 11:36
Strikes me how people twist the facts all the time thanks to their dumb understanding.
#9 YaZoR on 04 Sep 2003 - 11:58
ffs what a bunch of bell ends valve are. just make ONE box with the FULL game in it. then release expansions later. no fuking about with toss subscription shat!

as i said, bell ends.
#10 LiGhTfast on 04 Sep 2003 - 12:09
this is not the best idea...

im confused, im sure customers are gonna be confused too... stupid idea
#11 nullie on 04 Sep 2003 - 12:24
Sounds cool.. I'll definitely be going for the Steam version / subscription.
#12 SimplyPotatoes on 04 Sep 2003 - 12:48
i think this is a good idea i dont mind paying for something i want, and 10$ a month for updated beta's is ok in my idea thepeople who make them get paid since ads dont make a lot of revenue and since people are getting paid and EVERYONE loves money more and more people are going to make great mods for half life 2, so the content is going to get huge after awhile, also 10$ for unlimited downloads of halflife 2 and all the bonus content is great, no more loosing cd's or scratched cd's to deal with and no more friends stealing your warcraft 3 cd keys. also i didnt see anything about removing the downloads from 3rd party websites, so u can still probly get the mods. also they sell tfc cs etc etc in stores seperately so how is this different?! its not! except that if u lose ur game u can just download it again for FREE instead BUYING it again!! AND ur not having to pay for each seperatly OR as a bundle ! So when the average consumer see's that he doesnt have to buy all seperate versions they are going to BE SUPER HAPPY!! then they will probly call MAXIS and ask them can they do this for the SIMS so u don have to buy all 50versions of it!!

besides soon as i buy my copy from steam and download it... im going to sell it on ebay
(1 reply) #13 noll3095 on 04 Sep 2003 - 13:37
So is there a minimum required subscription time? As in you must agreee to a contract of at least 6 months or something like that? If not then why not just just sign up every time something comes out and download several products at once for only $9.95 and cancel right after.
#13.1 cq107 on 04 Sep 2003 - 14:33
I would think they would have some kind of subscription plan, ie 4 months minimum... but hey you never know,
I will do the same thing, buy it for 10$ and cancel right after...
(3 replies) #14 Cygoku on 04 Sep 2003 - 14:08
So, if I buy the collector's edition, I will still need to pay 10 f'ing $ a month to get "cool" mods?

Valva's will eat my nuts!

Cygoku
#14.1 Spyder on 04 Sep 2003 - 14:14
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So, if I buy the collector's edition, I will still need to pay 10 f'ing $ a month to get "cool" mods?


omg. NO! thats not what it says. you ONLY have to pay a subscription fee if you want to subscribe to the steam service. if you do that, you get half life 2 and any future games/expansion/mods they release because you subscribe to the service.

if you buy the hl2 collector's edition, theres NO monthly fee and you can download any free mods for free as much as you want. the ones they're referring to that you'd need to pay for are separate retail ones like CS2, TF2, etc. if you don't subscribe to steam. thats no different than it is right now.

see post #6 and 6.3 to reiterate what i just said.

i swear, are people reading the article or what?
#14.2 Cygoku on 05 Sep 2003 - 02:37
Thank you ery much. Sorry but it's not always clear.

Cygoku
#14.3 Spyder on 05 Sep 2003 - 14:01
sorry for the outburst cygoku.. was in a mood yesterday
(1 reply) #15 coco_d on 04 Sep 2003 - 14:36
But are you confident that TF2, DOD2, CS2 etc will be released within the period your subscribed for. $120 for the year is great value if those sort of things are released, but if they arn't!! How long is TF2 overdue so far?
#15.1 Spyder on 04 Sep 2003 - 14:51
valid argument, but I can simply say then forget about the Steam subscription and just buy the boxed version of HL2 now, and buy the boxed version of TF2 when its released.

this isn't rocket science
#16 -FX- on 04 Sep 2003 - 14:39
forget pay'n anymoney, use teh h4x, GG scriptz!
#17 Tartan on 04 Sep 2003 - 15:10
Way to go guys!!! - that will really help curb piracy for your game and/or future mods. *sarcasm*
F**KING MORONS !!!!!!!!!
#18 FatCat on 04 Sep 2003 - 15:12
Well i guess it makes sense though cs2 wasn't going to be offered for free like cs one I mean come one it's the most popular mod ever. It's a shame there won't be as many people playing it as there were now that is like $30+ , So what I get is the if you buy the Middle box you get multiplayer support but can't download free mods , but if you buy the Special box you can donwload free mods but still have to buy cs 2 and tft2 seperate. basiccly to be able to d/l free mods you have to shell out $120? two words hell no.
#19 threetonesun on 04 Sep 2003 - 15:27
Let's see, at $40 you'd need 3 mods worth buying to be released per year to make this worth it, correct (or 2 in the first year since you get HL 2 as well).

I remember playing ... 1 mod for the original HL, called Counter-Strike. It was free. I have a hard time believing many people are gonna go for this scheme when the packaging deals for the original HL sucked so bad.
#20 Ficman on 04 Sep 2003 - 15:30
Man this would be a bad idea, it hasn't worked for anyone else. When will these guys get a clue...

Come on Valve spend the 150 and buy a clue...
#21 DOCa Cola on 04 Sep 2003 - 16:07
hm, i like the idea of steam...for the real sierra lovers
#22 sodapop on 04 Sep 2003 - 16:36
Well, The only way to show you don't like the idea is not to buy the game. That would say something.
#23 SOOPRcow on 04 Sep 2003 - 17:17
Okay people... read and understand.

The subscription plan is a subscription to not only Half-Life 2 but what ever various retail expansions/MODS that they may release. You don't have to subscribe to play Half-Life 2 online or any of its MODS (free or retail). You will still be able to purchase Half-Life 2 and its various retail expansions/MODS separately. Either way you will still be able to download free community developed MODS and play them whether or not you have a subscription to steam (Unless you purchased the Single Player only version of Half-Life 2, but even then you could always upgrade that to include multiplayer support by paying the difference over steam).
#24 ANova on 04 Sep 2003 - 19:01
Here's the basic jist of the available products.

1. Half-Life 2 as the game, no support for mods or online play. Cost - $30
2. Half-Life 2, full support for online play as well as mods. Cost - $50
3. Half-Life 2 Collectors Edition, same as #2 only with things like a soundtrack, poster, figurines, making of movie, etc. Cost - $60-$70
4. Half-Life 2 via Steam, no box, manual or CD. Full support for online play and mods. Cost - $30-$40
5. Subscription to Steam, Includes unlimited access to HL2, TF2, CS2, DOD2, all Expansions and any mods. Cost - $10 a month

It's purely up to you to decide which path you want to go with. No one is forcing you to subscribe to anything. Valve is simply providing a host of options for those people who may actually want them. If you choose method #2, like most games are purchased, you get HL2 and access to as many free mods as you want. You simply have to pay extra if you want to get TF2 once it's released, like any normal expansion for a game.

In my personal opinion, 9.99 a month is too expensive. It should be more like 4.99 a month. However, this all depends on what will be available in a years time period. If TF2, CS2, etc. are all released within a couple months to a year after HL2 then the 9.99 a month would be worthwhile. It nothing or very little is released in that time frame than it's too expensive. At least, that's how I see it.
#25 divertom15 on 04 Sep 2003 - 19:10
Stop trying to educate the dumb if they get it they get it if they dont its not sweat off your back

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