Posted by malebolgia on 03 February 2004 - 16:53 · 54 comments & 2534 views
Thanks Euphoria for bringing this to my attention.

When Gabe Newell, founder of Valve Software, confirmed last October that hackers had wormed their way into the developer's network and stolen the source code to "Half-Life 2," it sent shock waves through the gaming industry. "Half-Life 2," you see, wasn't just a title any gamer worth his or her salt was drooling over, it was the title industry insiders were counting on to help revive the struggling PC gaming business.

As Valve developers gathered their wits, an executive from publisher Vivendi Universal Games told media outlets that the theft would delay the game until April 2004. That date was nothing more than a blind guess, though. Valve, the only company that really had a firm grasp on the impact of the theft, wrapped itself in a cocoon, refusing all questions from the media and not saying a word about when the game would hit shelves – until now. While still shying away from giving a firm date, Doug Lombardi, Valve's director of marketing, told me the company "is currently targeting this summer for the completion of Half-Life 2".

News source: CNN


Tim Sweeney, of Unreal developers Epic Games, agrees: "For a console to really have a useful online component, it has to have the hard drive to store downloaded maps and other data. If Microsoft waits for Sony, it is in effect allowing Sony to design Microsoft's box."

Meanwhile, as the chips at the core of the original Xbox are from different manufacturers (Intel and Nvidia) to those that will be in Xbox 2 (IBM and ATI Technologies), Microsoft have voiced concern that hardware and licensing fees would cost too much to enable the machine to play old Xbox games. However, one analyst has already said, "I can't imagine that Microsoft would be so insanely stupid as to make it incompatible," and some sources suggest that the issue could be resolved by using emulation.

At the core of the machine will be three IBM-designed 64-bit microprocessors, the combined power of which will be greater than current top-end PCs. The ATI Technologies-designed graphics chip will also be faster than its forthcoming R400 which basically means that Xbox 2 will be able to display with the resolution of high-definition TV.

Microsoft's emphasis appears to be on keeping the retail price down and, crucially, launching the machine before PlayStation 3 hits shelves in 2006. Xbox first launched just under two years after PS2 and, so far, 13.7 million of them have been shifted, compared to 70 million for PS2. As soon as we have more on Xbox 2, we'll let you know.




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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by HellBender on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:00
Unless they're too slow again. Then they'll blame it on another hacker. What a load of BS.
(6 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by nspeds on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:11
HellBender,
As a doctor I am prescribing you one pair of testicles.

For crying out loud, someone stole their work and you expect them to just live on? They need to investigate the causes and make procedures to prevent such a thing from happening again. I work in a company, and making such procedures are a big pain.

This is a quality game, if you don't like it, then don't post and go drool over Doom 3.
Quote this comment #2.1 Posted by Detonator on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:19
The theft of half life 2 was a good reason for valve to hide the real reason. The game just wasnt finished.

I can't believe half life 2 as been delayed nearly a year and thats if we are lucky.
Quote this comment #2.2 Posted by Wildcard on 03 Feb 2004 - 18:00
If you look at what was leaked and when it was leaked considering the original date was what ? September ? They wouldn't have made that date anyways even if the valve network wasn't compromised
Quote this comment #2.3 Posted by cowwithoutbrain on 03 Feb 2004 - 19:07
they have said it wouldnt have made that release date whether or not the theft occured. its not worth discussing.
Quote this comment #2.4 Posted by qdave on 03 Feb 2004 - 19:58
and what is wrong with that?
Quote this comment #2.5 Posted by Erich on 03 Feb 2004 - 22:04
OMG, Valve had the fbi etc. investigating this. If they did all this just for an "excuse" to prolong the release date, then they can seriously be charged for all the time and money it cost all the officials for their time. Anyone or any company willing to do this is just plain stupid.

Albeit, it's possible they could have took this opportunity to delay it, but, that's it, nothing else.
Quote this comment #2.6 Posted by FuhrerDarqueSyde on 03 Feb 2004 - 23:01
the stolen code was not the entire source, the missing models and such does not represent what VALVe had behind closed doors. The leak was not the full game in its entirety. Do not be lil twits unless you've made a large scale application. With the source leaked, they have to change certain things in the code so that hackers can't exploit the holes they may have discovered with the source. Also they need to change the cdkey alg. so it can't be used to generate a valid STEAM CDkey. kthx basi

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(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by dreamthief on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:16
This might be some stupid question to some, but.....

So around when is summer? month of?

*mind you, i live in an-all-year-round-same-weather zone, so how the hell i know WHEN is summer? it's always summer to me *
Quote this comment #3.1 Posted by j005u on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:19
well i spose that would be between june and august? dnu..
Quote this comment #3.2 Posted by Drae on 04 Feb 2004 - 15:21
Where do you live? Houses cheap?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by CrimandEvil on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:16
Yawn, This again? What are they doing rewriting part of the game of all of the game? Oh well I don't care any more.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by Jasco on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:17
Summer...
(4 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by Ficman on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:18
I think Duke Nukem stole the code...
Quote this comment #6.1 Posted by j005u on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:23
and i think i should be the richest person on earth.. am i?
Quote this comment #6.2 Posted by dougkinzinger on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:23
Hah, lol, yeah!
Quote this comment #6.3 Posted by coolchan on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:37
ROFL
Quote this comment #6.4 Posted by i like chips on 04 Feb 2004 - 13:03
dear lord. i almost fell off my chair laughing
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by dreamthief on 03 Feb 2004 - 17:23
Good games take time. Valve is not the only game developer delaying datelines. Look at Blizzard, it took them almost a decade to come out with WarCraft 3.
Quote this comment #7.1 Posted by Jasco on 03 Feb 2004 - 20:27
So what?
Quote this comment #7.2 Posted by vetToxicfume on 04 Feb 2004 - 12:57
True but..face it, it does get annoying waiting for games for this much amount of time you know. :/
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by unimatrixzer0 on 03 Feb 2004 - 19:00
lol, I think its a load of BS. I mean so what if they hacked in and had a look at the code. It would be one thing if the hacked had deleted the code, but I fail to see how "oh! a bunch of hackers stole our code! this will now delay our game!" I mean sure they will take time to investigate how and who did it, but its not like they'll divert all the people who are coding the game into it.
Quote this comment #8.1 Posted by Sawyer12 on 03 Feb 2004 - 19:07
Think of it this way, they will need to change it loads for loads of reasons like to prevent exploits of the code getting around.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by Sawyer12 on 03 Feb 2004 - 19:04
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help revive the struggling PC gaming business.


struggling PC gaming business.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by pxleyes on 03 Feb 2004 - 19:11
When are you all going to realize that a year wait is NOTHING. Games like Diablo 2 were delayed multiple years and was released to perfection.

The first HL was delayed one year from the original release date. If we get it by the summer, that is less than a year. You should all be grateful. Get over yourselves.
Quote this comment #10.1 Posted by WeeJames on 03 Feb 2004 - 19:57
Why should i be grateful? Valve are creating a product i will buy.. its not like they're giving me something for nothing, or making theworld a better place. Valve will get enough from making Half Life.. gratitude has **** all to do with it.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by netstarman on 03 Feb 2004 - 19:40
Valve had the F.B.I. looking in on the theftsupposdely they had a couple of people in custody already for the theft. I want the game too, it looks sweet but i can wait . I can wait for Halo 2 , Half life 2 , Doom 3 and what ever else there going throw out there.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by tronmaster on 03 Feb 2004 - 19:56
Not bad...only about a year late.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by StuRReaL on 03 Feb 2004 - 20:03
hmmmm this has duke nukem forever written all over it (forever being the word) looks like i'll be buying the new version of windows before HL2 at this rate, and by that time i'll also have dual opterons, an R420 based Radeon and a second TFT monitor
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by tom5 on 03 Feb 2004 - 20:13
... and when the game comes out its engine/graphics etc will already be outdated. Fine.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by ViciousX on 03 Feb 2004 - 20:36
A lot of you need to grow the hell up. It's a wait for a few months to allow them to finish the frigging game Turn off your HL2 Count-downs and wait, it'll be here when it's done.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by nic on 03 Feb 2004 - 20:41
relax everyone. There will be plenty of other games released to keep your mouses clicking in the mean time.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #17 Posted by Bant on 03 Feb 2004 - 20:46
oh my .... noobs everywhere!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #18 Posted by prozak on 03 Feb 2004 - 20:48
i wanted it so bad tha I dont want it anymore... i probably gonna get a version...
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #19 Posted by krazeguy on 03 Feb 2004 - 20:48
... like tetris - super speedy edition.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #20 Posted by Drimo on 03 Feb 2004 - 21:05
I'll wait for it cause it'll be worth it. Heh... been waiting for TF2 for over 4-5 years now anyway.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #21 Posted by alkaholikc on 03 Feb 2004 - 22:19
I also await for TF2 ;D... *Blows the dust off my old PC Gamer Magazine and looks at old screenshots* (;!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #22 Posted by Rishdeep on 03 Feb 2004 - 23:47
"...it was the title industry insiders were counting on to help revive the struggling PC gaming business."

...and they wonder why the PC gaming business is struggling with constant delays like this...
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #23 Posted by pHuzi0n on 04 Feb 2004 - 01:54
The title is a bit misleading... They set a time-frame (summer of 2004) not a date.
Quote this comment #23.1 Posted by djesteban on 04 Feb 2004 - 04:54
haha!! I know!
I mean... I don't care anymore when it comes out but this is not a freakin date!! lol!
It's an approximation... so topic should be Half Life 2 approximate a date
heh
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #24 Posted by demorgoron on 04 Feb 2004 - 01:58
why all this obssesion with Half Life 2?i didnt even liked the single player in the first one,the mods where the good things!Counter Strike,Day of Defeat,Team Fortress classic etc.why dont we wait for the game to come out and see how good its gonna be.With all the bad experiences over the year with over ,ultima ix anyone?bug kindom.Also what if the game has so much good graphics that not even an ATI 9800 xt cant keep up with it and it crashes every second,maybe not, but we shall see what the future holds
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #25 Posted by AfmomasTER on 04 Feb 2004 - 02:27
I can believe justin timberlake ripped of gabe newell's shirt at the super bowl!!!!

Quote this comment #25.1 Posted by Trust on 04 Feb 2004 - 02:52
lol
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #26 Posted by threetonesun on 04 Feb 2004 - 02:52
This is just feeding the video card market. Say a game is coming out, buy a brand new card that gives you the game for free, and then by the time the game comes out, it's no longer a top of the line card. I can guartantee companies work these things out with each other.
Quote this comment #26.1 Posted by Mav Phoenix on 04 Feb 2004 - 03:36
I know, right.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #27 Posted by StAnGeR04 on 04 Feb 2004 - 05:02
has anyone seen posted or read and minimum/maximum specs for HL2 yet?
I pre ordered and I really hope it'll play decent on my system....I can't believe Valve hasn't released any info like that to any press yet (to my knowledge) or have they? if anyone knows here's my pc specs

Athlon XP 3000+
1 gig PC2700 DDR
Asus A7V8X
GF FX 5200 Ultra
Quote this comment #27.1 Posted by LVirus on 04 Feb 2004 - 06:17
You can wipe your ass with that GFX card. Get 5900/5950 Ultra or 9800XT
Quote this comment #27.2 Posted by j005u on 04 Feb 2004 - 06:34
yeh.
that card won't get you much further then my ti4200 :/
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #28 Posted by Gary_Player on 04 Feb 2004 - 07:49
Sets a date my ass..."sometime this summer" yea, riiiiiight
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #29 Posted by csabo2 on 04 Feb 2004 - 09:03
The hacker took EXACTLY what valve had done, as you can see its not even 25% done.. they can say it was him. but he did what he did BECAUSE tehy were lying. and they were going to have to pospone anyway. gabe was sitting on his fat ass eating rather than working.
Quote this comment #29.1 Posted by cowwithoutbrain on 04 Feb 2004 - 09:32
okay... so the hacker took exactly what they had done, just not all of it. if he had taken all of it, then why does it not have many of the textures and other pieces that were clearly there in the e3 videos? did he pick them out to make his claim look false?

he did it because hes an ass, not because they were lying. you complain if you know they arent telling the truth, you dont make the most idiotic move of you life just to show their progress.

one more thing: insulting well known people in the industry does not make you look good or cool. it makes you look rather infantile.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #30 Posted by ProxXect on 04 Feb 2004 - 11:04
Omfg n00bzz... Make a game ur ****ing self then, if u think u rule the world
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #31 Posted by Magallanes on 04 Feb 2004 - 12:21
Who care

HL1 was good but not too good!.. HL2 will not be the best game ever.

In Fact, Diablo 2 was a good game but there are a lot of games even better that diablo (and they taken only 1 or 2 years).

Even more, Final Fantasy will take less designer time and FF is truly a awesome game (graphics, sound, story...).

Quote this comment #31.1 Posted by SolsticeDax on 04 Feb 2004 - 19:10
FF Rocks...

Everyone chill...

Sheesh...
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