Well its seems that GMail already has a loyal elegance of fan boys & malicious members. A new rival has appeared called You’ve Got Post boasting unlimited space and was quickly posted in Neowin’s Back Page News forum.
As everyone can imagine, the “unlimited” tag is the important fact here. It seems GMail users didn’t like what they heard, or maybe they did? Because they started signing up in droves and sending each other massive files and pictures using this new service. This was spurred on by members of another forum that were openly asking people to send them huge files to fill the space up even more. This was so effective that the majority of sign-ups were from that single forum.
You may say “who cares?” and with a service that sees your message to cherry pick ads for you many wouldn’t. But with You’ve Got Post its different, in an attempt to beat its better known GMail rival, went down a different path. They decided instead of reading all your emails and sending you ads as a result they ask for occasional donations for the service insted.
View: Original Back Page News Thread - Youvegotpost Webmail
View: GMail | You've Got Post!
View: OfficialWire's take
As everyone can imagine, the “unlimited” tag is the important fact here. It seems GMail users didn’t like what they heard, or maybe they did? Because they started signing up in droves and sending each other massive files and pictures using this new service. This was spurred on by members of another forum that were openly asking people to send them huge files to fill the space up even more. This was so effective that the majority of sign-ups were from that single forum.
You may say “who cares?” and with a service that sees your message to cherry pick ads for you many wouldn’t. But with You’ve Got Post its different, in an attempt to beat its better known GMail rival, went down a different path. They decided instead of reading all your emails and sending you ads as a result they ask for occasional donations for the service insted.
View: Original Back Page News Thread - Youvegotpost Webmail View: GMail | You've Got Post! View: OfficialWire's take
This sort of thing is not uncommon among Internet and computer users. Microsoft vs Apple, Intel vs AMD. It seems us geeks just can’t help ourselves.
We must remember that both offer “free” services and unbelievable amounts of storage. So what’s at the centre of this storm and why would users of a email service turn to this action? I would hazard a guess “commercialisation”. GMail members are selling & trading invites to what is a free service.
This spawned a new craze, were everyone wants the best email address they can buy, usually their first name, popular companies and even pop stars names. True hysteria built on hype has caused email accounts to become valuable and any rival offering a better service and this is a threat to them.
So when your saving for your pension don’t forget to add a few choice GMail accounts to go along with those 1000’s of catchy domain names your sitting on too…
Update: well it seems that the GMail group won, You’ve Got Post accounts now have a 20mb limit, returning them to the hords of companies offering a similer service. GMail it seams, has kept its crown for now...
although it made neowin out to look like we organized a mass mailing attack on them to bring them down or something
whats the drama anyways? dont remember gmail going"ohnos!!! dont send big files!1!1!!" and they are still in beta status. if ygp isnt designed for sending or receiving big files then guess what amy, change it so that you cant!
as long as the user was obeying the ygp guidelines then i dont see it as their fault, more your fault for being unable to cope with an influx of new members.
i agree that the actions of some users was pretty malicious but the website should of been prepared for the backlash it would receive for effectively going up against one of the most powerful groups on the net.
malicious hackers = ******s, unprepared web based email owners = idiots.
I mean you stumble across a great free service, your in contact with a seemingly nice webmaster who helps run it, you do them a favor by posting about it in a MUCH larger forum (no pun intended) and they get tons of people sign up. Then just yank it back and pretty much screw me & others.
Like I said in the original thread, I would never condone attacking or flooding their servers. But I'm glad someone posted this as news, now YGP has something else. Bad press.
Slashdot this story Voodoo!
/me shakes fist at Loc , lol
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=173550
I don't understand why someone would want to pay money for a retarded email address like BritneySpears@ypg.com, pretty retarded to me...
That must be among the most widely used words on NeoWin.
All mail services "read your mail" as the mail servers receive them. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to present them to you. The only difference in GMail's case is that these "read mail" are used to adapt the advertisements shown as well as show you the mails.
I can't say I'd care the slightest if GMail "read" love letters to my girlfriend, that my father had divorced, or whatever. It's just a computer algorithm adapting the ads... Happens all the time in Google Web Search too, or how did *you* think Google AdSense worked? Still everyone and their grandmother use Google to search for everything between prostate cancer information and how to make apple pies. Even if Google reads your search terms (yes, every one of them) and can theoretically connect it to your IP to build user profiles over a several year long period! Wow...? *yawn*
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Not @ Jugalator: how to you think spam filters work? same way as google wants to do with gmail for ads. same exact concept but people don't get all stupid over that. They just want something to bitch about.
They decided instead of reading all your emails and sending you ads as a result they ask for occasional donations for the service insted.
Also, a key difference is that they PUT IN ADVERTISING. Alternatives ofter same size, friendly communities, extra features AND no ads.
Personally I can't see a problem with it. Coming next week:
* Has you father just died a horrible death? Cheapo-Coffin's R' Us is here to help.
* Have you just lost a breast to cancer? Cheapo-Boobs-Of-Plastic are here to help.
* Are you a Muslim? Convert to Christianity today and you can save your soul for only $24.95.
New features for 2005:
* Closet homosexual? Pay us $365 and your boss needn't ever know!
* Contracted fatal cancer? Haven't made a will yet? Donate your money to the St James' Orphanage today and recieve a free badge.
Face it, offering that much storage space and a reliable account is a big undertaking.
They have closed a zillion threads so far!
still nice to play with, gmail is actually popular, only reason why I grabbed an account and the name I wanted, plus I said I do use it and still will continue too. The others, I think are just a joke, yougotposts? aventuremail? ...so long
how big is your average email? not even 1 to 10kb... it takes more than a thousand emails just to fill my yahoo mail account... so what are you going to do with 1 gigabyte of storage for emails? All an email is is a little bit of text that doesnt even take up that much space... you'de need more than a million (probably more) emails to fill up a gigabyte of space. when in your damn lifetime are you going to get 1 million emails!? useless!!!!
That's the point! You never have to delete anything.
If you have popular website with your email posted or use email for work or have a lot of friends it'll take you less time than you think to fill 1GB.
Plus, would they even be here in 1 year? you'd be screwed to have all your email gone one day and not even know they what happened.
These little nobody companies need to stop trying to compete with giants like Google. It's futile and just wastes everyones time.
and oh btw, does gmail work for everyone right now?
What can I say?
You're a waste of webspace. Nothing that you approve/disapprove of now has any legitimacy. A bunch of words and phrases from a hypocrites mouth.
Last edited by 58831 on 14 Jun 2004 - 21:53
Yes, legitimate alternatives to Gmail. Not these fly-by-night email services that keep popping up, offering unrealistic amounts of space. Good riddance to YGP and Aventure Mail.
Last edited by 53504 on 14 Jun 2004 - 23:06
What is it that your so scared of?
I find it sad that people are so pathetic that they want to bring down a website to make themselves feel big... there is no justification for it. This sort of thing WOULDN'T be tolerated in "real life" and so why should it be tolerated on the web?!?!?!? All this "better we find out now the site is unreliable" is crap; next it will be ok to rob someone to prove that their sercurity system is crap (exageration, but to the point). I am sick to death of GMail and it's diehard fans already - it's all hype. Wow... the early birds get a nice email address. I know it seems great now, but once you get past the age of 14 then you start to realise a short email address probably isn't the most important thing in life. Still, at least you can brag to all your classmates.
GMail has been a plague on the web... the only advantage it has brought is that alternatives now offer the same or more space and a better service; it is just sad that people are trying to bring them down just to make GMail look better.
Your imagination has run amuck.
See above.
Better service? I wouldn't call Aventure Mail better, since it was constantly down or at a crawl. And YGP has already reduced their account space down to 20 MB, which probably would have been inevitable even without the recent spamming incident.
the disadvantage of being the best in the business. google is searching the web way too deeply!
It's a shame, Google was by far the best search engine out there...for some reason they've now wrecked it.
W.
I started doing this about 2 years ago and never looked back anymore
Heck, for those only interested in email, they wouldnt even need any hosting at all, as many reg co's bundle email + 1 page site with the domain registration.
and that makes it soooo damn funny
We're down to 20mb!
-They closed all accounts that already exceeded the size!
-They closed accounts of anyone who emailed in complaint or inquest!
-They shut down every discussion forum!
Why destroy a service, which, appears to be much less intruding than the GMail service?
I can see why Muslims etc hate the West, with stupid things like this going on, I can't blame them to be honest.
also you offer that much, wut do u think will happen?
if you can't handle it don't offer it
but I blame the entire thing on Loc, and Amy, I want to photoshop a pic of amy, that'd be fun, everyone could do it and then send it to her, she'd love that!!
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