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LCD monitor prices to continue fall next year

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 17 September 2004 - 10:13 · 31 comments & 3133 views

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A REPORT from the Taiwanese Market Intelligence Center (MIC) said that prices of 17-inch LCD monitors will continue to fall next year. That's as a result of the manufacturers appearing to have recognised that if they want the lucrative CRT replacement market, they'll have to continue to cut prices.

The research group said that 17-inch LCD monitors will drop to around $300, but the "sweet spot" for such units could be as little as $200 to encourage movement away from CRT displays. The Center said that manufacturers of thin film transistor (TFT) LCD displays will have to break away from their idee fixee that large panels are the way to go to continue to compete against other technologies such as OLED (organic light emitting diode) technologies.

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However, the possibility of the PStwo emerging in October remains firmly in the realms of speculation, and a number of factors would seem to weigh heavily against the rumour - not least the fact that Sony hasn't announced anything in either the USA or Japan as yet, only six weeks before the suggested launch.

While that timescale isn't impossible by any means - the company cut the time between announcement and launch of the PSone quite fine as well, presumably in an effort to sustain sales of the original console for as long as possible - it's worth noting that the PSone didn't arrive until the launch of the PlayStation 2, and was seen as a repositioning of the console away from the new platform's market space.

With PlayStation 3 still over a year away, and PlayStation 2 still selling strongly, it would seem like an unusual move for Sony to roll out the PStwo ahead of that schedule - although the company may do so in an attempt to ensure that PlayStation sales remain firmly ahead of the Xbox in North America.

The timing would also, as McNealy points out, give Sony a "one-two punch" - launching a new console design alongside the biggest title of the year, GTA San Andreas, only weeks before Microsoft rolls Halo 2 out to retail.


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(1 reply) #1 Intelman on 17 Sep 2004 - 10:23
Good for us the consumer, LCD's are too expensive for me now, if they dropped to around 200, I would definitely bite the bullet and get one.
#1.1 Steffan on 17 Sep 2004 - 14:23
agreed. LCDs are nice, but they are too expensive. I'll wait for the price drop and hopefully be able to get two of them for dual display.
(5 replies) #2 Wrath Delivery on 17 Sep 2004 - 10:49
I'm still not totally convinced by LCDs because of the quality issues surrounding them (for example, low contrast, poor black purity, slow response and pixels blowing...) But this is good, because it means that RnD is starting to go into other techs now...

Maybe when they get the size, cost and lifespan of OLED screens sorted out I'll get one! For now, I'm sticking to my trusty CRT
#2.1 StaticFish on 17 Sep 2004 - 10:53
totally agree there. you need to be a member of the millionaires club to have one
#2.2 threedaysdwn on 17 Sep 2004 - 11:34
low contrast? Not on most LCDs.

If you're an informed buyer, you can find plenty of panels with fast response times and good, deep blacks.

Of course, you are right in saying that there's a price premium for quality... as in any market (especially at this stage in its development).
#2.3 neufuse on 17 Sep 2004 - 12:36
450:1 and higher are pretty good contrats for LCD's, colors usually show up alright at 450, and higher then that they light colors show up pretty good. 600:1 LCD's are getting pretty common too... OLED's contrast though starts out at 1000:1, which is very very good for color reporduction
#2.4 Wrath Delivery on 17 Sep 2004 - 12:38
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you can find plenty of panels with fast response times and good, deep blacks


Perhaps, but it still won't even come close to the specs of a decent CRT. 16 or even 12ms is just way off CRT speeds. While you may only use a refresh rate of, say, 100Hz (already way faster than a LCD which is normally only 60Hz), the falloff of the phosphor is so quick that is almost no noticable ghosting. And CRT black is black from any viewing angle, which is sadly not true of LCD's which lose contrast as the viewing angle approaches 90 degrees off normal.

Sony is bragging about their OLED screens at the moment which, while relatively small still, offer 0.01 ms latency and extremely high contrast, and absolutely no viewing angle effect on brighness / contrast!!! WoooT!
#2.5 neufuse on 17 Sep 2004 - 16:15
LCD's do *NOT* have a refresh rate they only have rise/fall rates... so saying

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100Hz (already way faster than a LCD which is normally only 60Hz),


does not work... the 60Hz is equivilent of a number way higher then the 100Hz rate you specified because of the way the screens draw on LCD... on a CRT they scan the lines line by line... hence why you have a refresh rate... but on LCD they do it differently... a more efficient way... its similar to interlacing but not really...

scan 1 does pixles like this

0 X 0 X 0 X
X 0 X 0 X 0
0 X 0 X 0 X
X 0 X 0 X 0

where x is the pixel being refreshed and 0 the ones not, the next pass it flips which ones are refreshed.. this is WAY more effifient then a refresh rate scan of line by line like CRT does... this is HEX addressing compared to a linear addressing...
(1 reply) #3 NeoKelt on 17 Sep 2004 - 12:35
First post, long time lurker.
I use a 19 inch flat CRT because I work in graphics , but would gladly buy a LCD monitor for dual monitor work station, the only thing that kept me from doing so was the price.
I don't have the real estate for another CRT, but if the price does come down to around $200 I would buy a LCD.
#3.1 DigitalTigers.com on 17 Sep 2004 - 17:03
Have you done much research on dual monitor setups?
#4 dmbandfan22 on 17 Sep 2004 - 12:42
I'm still waiting...around $280 is my sweet spot for a 17" LCD. OLED screens will take at least another two to three years to be more widely accepted, since they're probably going to be near the $1k range.
#5 eRad on 17 Sep 2004 - 13:01
i've been waiting quite a while for an LCD, hearing reports of falling prices. Though they didnt fall too much in the past few months, so im going to be dishing out quite a bit of dough for the Samsung 173P (doesnt get any better). This is probably the most extravagant purchase i'll have ever made, but i've waited quite a bit with my POS comp, the time has come =)
(1 reply) #6 tcghost on 17 Sep 2004 - 13:45
17" is too small for me...the prices are falling for all LCDs though, so that's nice...
#6.1 X-Spyder on 17 Sep 2004 - 14:44
I think a 17" LCD is about the same as a 19" CRT. I know when I go in the store, 17" LCDs look a heck of a lot bigger than 17" CRTs.
(1 reply) #7 X-Spyder on 17 Sep 2004 - 14:44
I've always been told (and read) that they aren't good for gaming systems, but maybe I should rethink/look into that again.
#7.1 mufdvr3669 on 17 Sep 2004 - 15:45
No, I think they are great for gaming. Look for one with a low response time, mine is 16ms or 20ms and I don't notice any ghosting.
(1 reply) #8 rIaHc3 on 17 Sep 2004 - 15:10
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OLED (organic light emitting diode) technologies.


Thats what im waiting for. When they come out they'll be like $400 but since organic stuff is cheap they will drop drastically in the after months and ill get a nice 17-19 OLED display.
#8.1 SonComet on 17 Sep 2004 - 20:19
I bet they will be 600-800 when they come out. Just because it's cheap to make won't stop manufacturers from charging a lot because it's new.
#9 dave164 on 17 Sep 2004 - 15:36
I got a NEC 17" LCD screen with my computer so im ok..
#10 altezza on 17 Sep 2004 - 16:29
I shall wait for cheaper 17/19 inch LCD...worth the wait. Today's still too expensive.
#11 lare2 on 17 Sep 2004 - 19:18
Does any one of you care about the electric bill. That's the whole point of me moving into an LCD monitor.
#12 MoRiA on 17 Sep 2004 - 19:18
I have a 14.1" TFT on my laptop (funnily enough; imagine a laptop with a CRT.....) and I would happily play games on the thing if it had a powerful enough graphics card. I'm currently looking to buy an LCD screen for my desktop. Currently got a 17" CRT and would happily replace it with a 17" LCD.

The only real differences I notice between the two are:
a) Reflections on the CRT. I have to play games with the curtains closed (laptop screen next to it is fine, though)
b) LCD is a much sharper picture. CRTs always have blurred lines. I much prefer an LCD's sharpness.

I have no idea what the specs of the laptop screen are, ask Acer, not that they would tell you.
(1 reply) #13 Tem on 17 Sep 2004 - 20:50
damnit. im stuck with a gay 19' crt. i want a lcd!
#13.1 lare2 on 17 Sep 2004 - 22:42
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a gay 19' crt.


I hope it's not pink
#14 Angel Blue01 on 17 Sep 2004 - 22:33
I can finally get my 15" LCD.
#15 dhitb on 18 Sep 2004 - 03:10
The question is will the good 17 inchers fall that low? All this news of LCD's falling in price and the one I have my eye on is still 500 bones.
#16 Fookin on 18 Sep 2004 - 06:16
I picked up a 19" AG Neovo F-419 LCD a couple months ago and it's definitely a solid investment. Games are fine, movies, SageTV are all great as well. I got it for around $550 at newegg and the price has dropped almost $50 since then. I'm saving some pennies to get a second one. It's a great deal with all it's features.
#17 xxkrnxstylezxx on 18 Sep 2004 - 07:48
when are OLED's coming out?? will they be expensive??
#18 Samoa on 18 Sep 2004 - 07:51
I don't know, I like my Veiwsonic Flatscreen 17" CRT
#19 MitchShrader on 18 Sep 2004 - 13:15
acreage. <400$ for a crt (philips) 21 inch. show me a 400$ LCD with equal performance, AND size, i'm there. otherwise.. i'll stay with my crt. and i have a very hard time believing that the LCD manufacturers won't get real in the next 18 months or so. bleeding edge is so Not Economical.
#20 Mafi on 20 Sep 2004 - 08:32
They've completely missed the point on this one. It's not the price that's holding the gamers back from purchasing TFT and LCD screens, it's the response time.
CRT monitor have reaction times of 0-5ms from action on the computer to display on the screen, whereas LCD and TFT screens have a massive 35+ms on average. This is not good enough for a gamer. With people having reaction times of roughly 270ms, and an average ping of 100ms, racking up an average total of nearly 400ms, a monitor with more than 10ms will make the difference between a headshot or a torso shot.
If companies really want to sell these monitors, they should concentrate more on making the damned things faster, then you can have whatever price you want and gamers will still flood to them.

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