MSN Messenger 5.0 for Mac
Posted by RebelSean on 30 July 2005 - 05:54 · 23 comments & 5420 views
A Macintosh orientated website in The Netherlands posted that the release date for MSN Messenger 5.0 for Mac will be out August 9th, 2005. The site also adds a previously undisclosed feature to the already known feature list. Apparently, the new Mac version will allow connecting to other protocols.

News source: MacOSX

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The top 10 software titles for the first six months of the year were dominated by PlayStation 2 games. Sony's console had six games in the top 10, including Sony Computer Entertainment's Gran Turismo 4 in the top slot.

Nintendo had the second most games in the top 10. Game Boy Advance games held two positions with Pokemon Emerald at second place and Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap at seventh. The lone GameCube representative was Capcom's Resident Evil 4 in the eighth slot. But that tied Microsoft's entire Xbox contingent, with the tenth-place Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith lingering at the bottom of the list.

The only 2004 game to crack the top 10 was Take-Two Interactive's controversy-laden Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, which was released in October. The complete Top 10 consoles games of 2005 can be seen below.

Rank/Title/Platform/Publisher/Release Date/SRP


1. Gran Turismo 4 (PS2, Sony Computer Entertainment, Feb 05 $49)
2. Pokemon Emerald (GBA, Nintendo, Apr 05, $34)
3. MVP Baseball 2005 (PS2, Electronic Arts, Feb 05, $49)
4. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (PS2, LucasArts, May 05, $49)
5. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2, Take-Two Interactive, Oct 04, $47)
6. God of War (PS2, SCE, Mar 05, $50)
7. Zelda: The Minish Cap (GBA, Nintendo, Jan 05, $50)
8. Resident Evil 4 (GC, Capcom, Jan 05, $50)
9. Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition (PS2, Take-Two, Apr 05, $49)
10. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (Xbox, LucasArts, May 05, $49)


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(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by Maxious on 30 Jul 2005 - 06:03
omg "Yahoo, AOL, AIM, MSN and iChat" - like to see yahoo/aol try to close the protocols again
Quote this comment #1.1 Posted by RJT on 30 Jul 2005 - 06:09
What you're forgetting is that this cross protocol functionality is limited to the Corporate Side of the application.

public MSN accounts will NOT be able to use this feature and it will only work through a Live Communications Server, so connecting to the .NET Messenger Service with your public passport will NOT allow you to communicate with AIM, iChat and Yahoo

This has been blown out of proportion. This feature has been known about since June however the decision not to announce it has been to avoid confusion. This is a feature that is enabled through the use of LCS and not .NET so it will only work on a Corporate Network. Windows Messenger already has the same abilities when it connects to a Corporate Network using LCS - it's to do with the Live Communications Server Software.

The following has been taken from the Internal Help Documentation for the new version of Microsoft Messenger for Mac


A corporate account uses the Microsoft Office Live Communications Server service. Contacts that you add to your corporate account will include coworkers who are in the same company as you and associates at other companies. Instant message conversations with other corporate account users are not limited to corporate users who have Messenger for Mac installed on their computers. You can also have instant message conversations with users who have other instant messaging services, such as AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), Yahoo Messenger, and iChat.


There is NO mention of this feature being available to Personal or Public MSN Accounts through Messenger.

And the application's name has been changed to Microsoft Messenger - Drop the MSN as it's no longer an MSN application!

For more information see http://www.messengerformac.com

Last edited by 50843 on 30 Jul 2005 - 06:36
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by Cubiz on 30 Jul 2005 - 06:13
Excellent news
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by virtorio on 30 Jul 2005 - 07:44
Damm Microsoft have been incredibly slack getting this out. I don't even care about that other stuff, just the ability to see a display picture would be nice.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by chimera963 on 30 Jul 2005 - 08:10
Yes! It's actually coming out, its about time. But still, MS could delay it even further, but I doubt it this time. Heh, i was getting worried it would never come out.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by fubarshibby on 30 Jul 2005 - 09:29
FINALLY!
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by Adem on 30 Jul 2005 - 10:38
This articles title is quite misleading..
Quote this comment #6.1 Posted by Geo on 30 Jul 2005 - 11:40
Neowin.net - Where unprofessional journalism looks stupid

Edit: Actually no, the source site uses it, their bad.
Quote this comment #6.2 Posted by Adem on 31 Jul 2005 - 17:07
so they use the same..?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by XeroByte on 30 Jul 2005 - 11:30
wow finally, that's awesome news.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by XanDaMan on 30 Jul 2005 - 12:24
Article really needs a title change...just making mac users more anoyed that its not out yet...been waiting for what seem eternity for this.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by qrich19 on 30 Jul 2005 - 12:31
About time this came out, microsoft has been taking the piss with this release!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by LegoNinja on 30 Jul 2005 - 15:16
Sweet... I just threw the article into babelfish- I can;t wait for the release of Knife-Narrower One 5.0! Now THAT is a name for a piece of software.

"The Macintosh have announced Business Unit of Microsoft that MSN knife-narrower one 5.0 will come for the Mac 9 augusts next available"

Better than learning Dutch i guess
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by aristotle-dude on 30 Jul 2005 - 17:32
Well I am glad that the MBU is working on this now instead of someone in the messenger group.
Quote this comment #11.1 Posted by roadwarrior on 30 Jul 2005 - 23:34
MBU has always been responsible for MSN Messenger for Mac, AFAIK.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 30 Jul 2005 - 18:25
Bleh, unless they can make it unbloated, unugly, without that large "SEND IN AQUA BLUE THAT WON'T MATCH YOUR THEME AT ALL" button, and stop ignoring every single rule of the OS X human interface guidelines.... i'll Stick to Adium X, thank you.
Quote this comment #12.1 Posted by rm20010 on 30 Jul 2005 - 19:08
Hell, you OSX users are far better off than Windows users. We're confined to some messed up UI that does nothing more than cater to a 10 year old's tastes.
Quote this comment #12.2 Posted by BTallack on 30 Jul 2005 - 19:28
Yes but us Mac users have a complete lack of unified system interface.
There's Brushed, Aqua, Plastic, Classic, and a couple others.
But at least each one of them is pretty.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by Syntax Error on 30 Jul 2005 - 20:18
i hope the connection is more stable on msn 5
Quote this comment #13.1 Posted by Pc_Madness on 31 Jul 2005 - 05:11
Yeah, I noticed that as well on MSN 4.something. I still have the problem with AdiumX, just not as bad, my contact list will display and sign me back in again or something.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by Radish™ on 30 Jul 2005 - 20:32
Mmmmm, about bloody time

Radish™
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by rajputwarrior on 01 Aug 2005 - 19:47
eh, in the time they have produced this, random poeple with day jobs who work on seperate projects in their spare time have been able to add every feature msn 7 has and put it into a mac compatible messenging program, well effin done ms, these guys will have no less feature then adium will and mercury and amsn beat the crap of the two when it comes to features
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by riffas on 02 Aug 2005 - 00:28
It is nice to see that finally MS decided to update his MSN messenger for MAC. Although I'm still kind of ceptic about this new release. I'm not talking about the dates when it will be made available (although it would be nice if it is released in August as they promised) but about the features it implements...
Messenger 4.0 (for Mac) came out more or less at the same time as messenger 6.0 for windows, and it was too far behind... Come on... Was that a joke?

When are we, mac users, going to see real MSN messenger support? I want right sound and video support, and all those nerdy little features like winks and others.

MS did a quite good job with Office 2004, by correctly interoperate with the Windows version. The reason can be quite obvious, no one would buy Office for Mac if there are interoperability problems with windows, and the proof of that is that Office 2004 sold much better than Office v.X. There are a few things that are different, but I would say that 90% of all Office users will only use 10% of the features, yet those 10% must work perfectly.

So, if they did it for Office, is it so difficult to do the same with MSN messenger?
So many brilliant minds working at MS... I believe they should be ashamed of releasing such a loosy software like the current MSN messenger. Most of open-source projects that are done in a collaborative way, as hobbie on in the developers coffe break are even better than the MS version...

A company with the bugdet of MS, and with the number of research projects they don't mind to fail (wich means bucks throwed away to the garbage) and they do not put a team working on this... really, I don't know what to think.
The rest of you are happy for having picture and file transfer support. Please don't get me wrong, but I think that is just a penny thrown away to the poors. I want REAL MSN messenger support.

I can imagine a few reasons, for not releasing a good Mac version. While the Office is paid, messenger comes for free to all its users. Thus, MS doesn't receive any $$ for their software. The same happens both for Windows and for Mac. Although, if that's the problem, I don't mind to pay...
What I mind, is someone makes fool of me, by releasing a pseudo better version with "hot features" that belongs to the 90s when we are living in the XXI century...
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