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AMD’s New Processor Micro-Architecture in 2008

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 22 June 2006 - 10:47 · 24 comments & 14876 views

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Advanced Micro Devices’ chief executive said that his company was planning to commercially release processors with new micro-architecture in 2008 after making pilot production in 2007. The introduction of the new micro-architecture may significantly boost performance of the company’s microprocessors, which are to face increased pressure from competing solutions by Intel Corp.

“We’re going to introduce a really new architecture that will work well with our partners for the best performance. We’re going to start sampling it at the end of 2007 and roll it out in 2008,” said Hector Ruiz, chief executive of AMD, in an interview with BusinessWeek.

Earlier it was projected that in 2007 the Sunnyvale, California-based chipmaker will introduce instruction extensions to the AMD64 micro-architecture and will bring-in HyperTransport technology in 2008. But recently the company said in a statement that AMD’s “next-generation architecture for servers, workstations and desktops” is planned to debut in mid-2007, and is expected to offer better platform performance-per-watt ratio as well as enterprise application performance.

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#1 Kushan on 22 Jun 2006 - 11:19
I'm I the only one that felt this article didn't actually say anything other than "AMD will release something new next year"?
(1 reply) #2 Yogurth on 22 Jun 2006 - 11:29
2 Years behind Intel with new architecture does not sound very good. Intel already stated that by 2008 they will also move to something new. In chip industry being second for 2 years is not the best thing that can happen to a company.
AMD will have hard times ahead. I hope they don't vanish, for underestimatiing Intel Core 2.
#2.1 Neo-Luxembourg on 22 Jun 2006 - 12:08
Intel was 4years behind AMD ... and look now, they have a realy fast CPU (Conroe! ... so ...
(3 replies) #3 bucko on 22 Jun 2006 - 12:09
Perhaps this is hinting that AMD will definitely merge with ATI? Anyone remember that news lol, seems so long ago now.
#3.1 DefensiveCore on 22 Jun 2006 - 15:21
What would really be more beneficial is IBM buying AMD.
#3.2 theyarecomingforyou on 22 Jun 2006 - 17:12
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What would really be more beneficial is IBM buying AMD.

Yup, then they could be called IB&MMD. *shrugs* Seriously though, IBM buying AMD could be a really good thing for the market, seeing that they already work closely together anyway... slap in ATi as well and you could have some really interesting things happening.
#3.3 ALUOp on 22 Jun 2006 - 22:31
Perhaps Sun should buy AMD and then port their 8-core 64-thread SPARC to x86-64.
Not only can Sun survive but also kill everybody else in the server market.
(5 replies) #4 sgr55 on 22 Jun 2006 - 12:11
it really depends on what AMD are bringing to the market really. For all you know it could be a chip thats significantly ahead of intel. Its just not possible to say at this time.

I doubt intel will be releasing another generation of processor in 2008 when their just about to laucnh conroe which i see will be sticking around for a few years yet. Obviously it'll be updated etc to impove performance etc. bit like the small AM2 Update.

Dont count them out or judge them on something they havnt even released yet. Both intel and AMD have solid platforms on the market.
#4.1 sgr55 on 22 Jun 2006 - 12:12
Sorry should say. Intel WILL have a solid platform on the market with their new conroe chips. Their current chips are somewhat dismal.
#4.2 Neo-Luxembourg on 22 Jun 2006 - 12:20
The only point where I disagre is that the AM2 is a smal update in performance. The point is that AM2 was not aimed for new performance, but for preparing users to a new family of CPUs as the next CPUs will be AM2 only.
#4.3 linsook on 22 Jun 2006 - 14:32
in 2008 intel will be swithcing to their 45 nanometer process from 65 and will be introducing 2 new dual core chips based on the process in the same year- code named Penryn and Wolfdale. But before that, the quad core Kentsfield will be released in 2007.
#4.4 Martin Blank on 22 Jun 2006 - 16:06
Intel is in the process of catching up on their CPUs. Expect that over the following two years, they will be focusing on the major bottleneck in their design -- replacing the Front Side Bus, something that's been in their plan for the last three years or so but never quite seems to work out. It doesn't matter how fast your CPU will process information if you can't supply enough to keep it full.

AMD still has an AM2 refresh due in about 9-12 months in the form of the Brisbane/Tyler/Sherman core updates. There's a decent chance that this will bring performance of the Athlon line roughly to par with Intel's Core 2 lineup. I suspect there will be a return to the GHz race for a while, perhaps a year or so, until AMD's K8L and Intel's Wolfdale lineups really find their footing. Neither side faces a dull future, I suspect.
#4.5 linsook on 23 Jun 2006 - 01:56
Quote - Martin Blank said @ #4.4
Intel is in the process of catching up on their CPUs. Expect that over the following two years, they will be focusing on the major bottleneck in their design -- replacing the Front Side Bus, something that's been in their plan for the last three years or so but never quite seems to work out. It doesn't matter how fast your CPU will process information if you can't supply enough to keep it full.

AMD still has an AM2 refresh due in about 9-12 months in the form of the Brisbane/Tyler/Sherman core updates. There's a decent chance that this will bring performance of the Athlon line roughly to par with Intel's Core 2 lineup. I suspect there will be a return to the GHz race for a while, perhaps a year or so, until AMD's K8L and Intel's Wolfdale lineups really find their footing. Neither side faces a dull future, I suspect.


saying an am2 refresh is going to put it on par with the conroe was just as silly as when you guys were touting the performance gain when it was getting ready to be released. which we all know now, am2 gave a negligible increase in performance. amd right now is a year or more behind intel. when they finally switch over to the 65 nm process intel will already be on the 45.
(1 reply) #5 PsykX on 22 Jun 2006 - 16:01
Being an AMD fanboy, I feel that Intel is going to win the next war with Conroe...
#5.1 Xavien on 22 Jun 2006 - 16:43
there is no next war though, its basically a constant battlefield nowadays with the 'war' ending when one of the companies files for bankrupcy.

Intel and AMD are so out of step with each other, could you imagine ATi launching something to compete with Nvidia's latest offering some 2-4 years after it is released? Intel and AMD are fighting a long-drawn out war that'll probably last a decade if not more.
#6 ThePitt on 22 Jun 2006 - 16:48
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which are to face increased pressure from competing solutions by Intel Corp.

ROFL, the same story of always. This will last till the worlds ends
(5 replies) #7 iOsiris on 22 Jun 2006 - 17:31
I think this article is referring to the K8L platform which would be faster than Concoe. However, Intel may have something else by then as well
#7.1 Elliott on 22 Jun 2006 - 18:02
It's being released in two years. Yes, I think it would be faster than Conroe.
#7.2 Z3r0 on 22 Jun 2006 - 21:09
not necessarily, they could be developing a faster 386 processor and bringing it to market, 20mhz here we go!
#7.3 Xavien on 23 Jun 2006 - 05:39
Since it took some 4-5 years before Intel finally found something faster then the K8 architechture, i wouldn't hold my breath for something faster then K8L being released at the same time or earlier then the K8L anyways.

The Point is we really dont know how much is in the old redisigned P3 architechture, it could end prematurely like the P4 with its "Netburst" (remember Intel announcing a P5 in its roadmap, promising 6Ghz speed?).

Ill wait till 2008 before making assumptions on Intels Chips.
#7.4 Leddy on 23 Jun 2006 - 07:36
It took "4" years for Intel to find something faster than K8? Really, now four years ago was 2003. Back then, Intel's Pentium 4 line was still Northwood, which was better than the what, AMD Athlon XP?

The Conroe architecture isn't "better" than K8, it "crushes" the K8 by anything between 20-40%. AMD has NEVER had such a consistently large performance advantage over any equivalent-price Intel processor before.

Now, Intel's T6600 Core 2 Duo is roughly equal (in some cases, better) than the FX62. The FX62 will be FOUR TIMES the price of the T6600 at the time of it's release.

So who's won the CPU war this year? You tell me.
#7.5 MrCobra on 23 Jun 2006 - 08:46
Nobody won the "war". Intel has made a better chip this time but I don't count AMD out. Maybe late in comming as the Conroe was but not out.
#8 McG on 23 Jun 2006 - 01:34
Very exciting.
#9 badazzEVO8 on 23 Jun 2006 - 07:05
#6 Posted by ThePitt on 22 Jun 2006 - 12:48
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which are to face increased pressure from competing solutions by Intel Corp.

ROFL, the same story of always. This will last till the worlds ends


or until microsoft starts designing their own chips and puts them both out of business lol

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