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Cisco Taking on Apple TV

Slimy   on 13 January 2007 - 18:19 · 28 comments & 11382 views

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Either Cisco wants some of Apple's press mania or they have vowed to give the company some competition. Not only do both companies have products named "iPhone" but now Cisco is reportedly taking on the recently announced AppleTV. The device’s name is unknown and although it was not displayed publically at CES 2007, it was supposedly demonstrated behind closed curtains at a suite in the Bellagio hotel in Las Vegas. Pictures, movies, music and other information can either be streamed or played off the device’s hard drive, much like the AppleTV. Technical specifications are currently unknown, but it is expected that the product will be released under Linksys branding and as a part of Cisco's Connected Home initiative.

Karen Sohl, director of worldwide communications for Cisco's Linksys division, hinted that when the device ships in later 2007, it will be able to play more than just movies off a computer or a laptop wirelessly. Yep, you guessed it. Speculation around DVD, Blu-ray or HD-DVD playback is coming in strong. Not only that, but it seems Apple has left Cisco with a lot of room to play with. The AppleTV is limited to 720p - Cisco can, and should, release their product with 1080p resolution. Finally, the AppleTV seems to be currently (hackers always have their way) limited to purchased iTunes content. If Cisco allows any content to be transferred to the device, all the company will need is an Apple-matching marketing team.

News source: DailyTech

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#1 +warwagon on 13 Jan 2007 - 18:52
I can feel the love
(4 replies) #2 bidz on 13 Jan 2007 - 19:41
/cheer Cisco

I hope they break Apple's balls both in the courtroom regarding Apple's theft of Cisco's trademark (iPhone) and that this product outsells their AppleTV (formerly iTV).

Apple is just getting too arrogant nowadays.
#2.1 xpablo on 13 Jan 2007 - 19:51
nothing like some good competition.
#2.2 +Elliott on 13 Jan 2007 - 20:03
Oh yea. Cisco is totally going to beat AppleTV...

Also: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/cisco-m...rademark-in-06/ Oopsies?
#2.3 Chad on 13 Jan 2007 - 20:21
Quote - (bidz said @ #2)
/cheer Cisco

I hope they break Apple's balls both in the courtroom regarding Apple's theft of Cisco's trademark (iPhone)


Or not. http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=236
#2.4 Peter McGrath on 13 Jan 2007 - 20:27
Quote - (Elliott said @ #2.2)
Oh yea. Cisco is totally going to beat AppleTV...
[/url] Oopsies?


I see no reason for Apple TV to be more popular than a Cisco version.

Personally I'm sick of Apple's (and Sony's) use of DRM to limit what we can do with (where we can play it on) our music/video and who we can buy it from.

Also the AppleTV product is inferior in terms of resolution etc.
(2 replies) #3 gxsaurav on 13 Jan 2007 - 20:38
Cisco's version would be a lot better then Apple TV or even XBOX 360. The user should not be restricted to one particular video format or app only

Apple TV only streams contents from iTunes. What the hack......do they think the user only has iTunes bought videos? What about all the DivX, DVDs etc. Same goes with XBOX 360, although i have not used one for streaming, but I guess it will stream videos in the library of WMP or MCE only

Correct me if i m wrong about XBOX
#3.1 TheGriffin on 13 Jan 2007 - 21:54
Well officially with the Xbox 360 you can't stream anything other than WMV, MP3, WMA and Pictures. Unofficially you can use software such as VLC or TVersity.
#3.2 Neomac v6 on 14 Jan 2007 - 09:17
AppleTV will play any video in MPEG4, which is an open format. Just rip your DVDs in MPEG4.
(10 replies) #4 LTD on 13 Jan 2007 - 21:40
We'll see another failure by an Apple competitor.

The bodies just keep piling up.
#4.1 Beastage on 13 Jan 2007 - 22:09
You are dillusional..... Cisco is a company that is responsible for the internet as it today, 70% of all backbone and ISP equipment is Cisco made, Cisco are very good at doing things...
#4.2 LTD on 13 Jan 2007 - 23:13
Quote - (Beastage said @ #4.1)
You are dillusional..... Cisco is a company that is responsible for the internet as it today, 70% of all backbone and ISP equipment is Cisco made, Cisco are very good at doing things...


Won't have Apple's trademark sex-appeal or sell-power.

Remember the vision of the digital home. It's not just about eqipment, but lifestyle and image. You'll see.
#4.3 Beastage on 14 Jan 2007 - 01:25
Quote - (LTD said @ #4.2)
Quote - (Beastage said @ #4.1)
You are dillusional..... Cisco is a company that is responsible for the internet as it today, 70% of all backbone and ISP equipment is Cisco made, Cisco are very good at doing things...


Won't have Apple's trademark sex-appeal or sell-power.

Remember the vision of the digital home. It's not just about eqipment, but lifestyle and image. You'll see.



You assume that apple sales are still on the rise... how ever you are wrong - while they are gaining some in their original field - computers - they are begining to see a trend of slower ipod and itunes sales
#4.4 roadwarrior on 14 Jan 2007 - 02:36
Quote - (Beastage said @ #4.3)
You assume that apple sales are still on the rise... how ever you are wrong - while they are gaining some in their original field - computers - they are begining to see a trend of slower ipod and itunes sales


I'll reiterate what Steve Jobs said in his keynote: where are you getting this data about slowing sales? iTunes has been selling more music and videos than ever before. I can't remember the exact numbers, but look at the first part of the keynote if you like.
#4.5 david13lt on 14 Jan 2007 - 09:11
Over 2 billion songs sold on iTunes.
#4.6 Beastage on 14 Jan 2007 - 10:35
Yea 2 billion, sry
#4.7 Mathiasdm on 14 Jan 2007 - 12:12
Quote - (LTD said @ #4.2)
Quote - (Beastage said @ #4.1)
You are dillusional..... Cisco is a company that is responsible for the internet as it today, 70% of all backbone and ISP equipment is Cisco made, Cisco are very good at doing things...


Won't have Apple's trademark sex-appeal or sell-power.

Remember the vision of the digital home. It's not just about eqipment, but lifestyle and image. You'll see.

When it comes to computers and TV, I prefer quality over 'sex-appeal or sell-power'.

Not that Apple doesn't have quality, but their AppleTV actually looks pretty bad (Note: these are the downsides I personally think about, these won't necessarily matter for other people):
-Only 40GB of storage (!
-Forces you to use iTunes
-No ogg vorbis support
-No flac support
-No divX (!
-High-definition: any word on this? Is there high-def support? 1080i? 1080p?
-Can't be used with Linux

For the average customer, I think the largest downside is the low amount of storage: 40GB.
#4.8 Darkinspiration on 14 Jan 2007 - 18:49
most of those are realy a non issue

-Only 40GB of storage

since the device seem to be mainly about streaming and not retention it might be enought

-Forces you to use iTunes

if the device become a wee bit popular expect third party to create alternatives

-No ogg vorbis support
-No flac support

unfortunatlyogg and flac support are not really considered important feature in a mainstream consumer device. it's a shame.

-No divX (!
this hurt, it hurt the video ipod and is going to hurt the itv. Having to reencode every movie download from the web to mp4 is a pain. But it does promote the itune store


-High-definition: any word on this? Is there high-def support? 1080i? 1080p?
there is high-def support but only for 720p and 720i
This is not really an issue since most installed tv are not capable of supporting higher resolution. It can probably be adress with an upgrade


-Can't be used with Linux

As most devices. Linux official support is as usual non existant. but expect some solution if the device takes off


The itv is really consistent with apple earlier choices. It followes the lines of thinking of the ipod and of itune. It does have a few shortcoming however and it's biggest is the need to work to convet our existing video. since this is nothing new for video ipod owener it might jut work.

the question now is: how about all thee other cheaper media extender that can do more stuff. will the ipod success will be repeated?

As for cisco entering the market, it's unlikely they will have a impact they are always more focus on the buisness side of thing then on the consumer maket. Yet maybe linksys will come up with something interesting.
#4.9 Neomac v6 on 14 Jan 2007 - 22:01
Yeah, the hard disk is just for buffering and caching. It's primarily a streaming device.
#4.10 C_Guy on 15 Jan 2007 - 16:52
"Won't have Apple's trademark sex-appeal or sell-power."

Probably because thsoe don't exist.

Apple's selling power: Now at roughly 3% computer market share worldwide.

Apple's sex-appeal: Part of Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field. But hey, if computers turn you on, to each their own.
(3 replies) #5 tiddlie on 14 Jan 2007 - 08:45
There's one key to winning this market. It's called DivX support. The first TV streaming device to be mass produced with DivX support wins. Simple. Now take that on board Cisco.
#5.1 LTD on 14 Jan 2007 - 14:22
Ok, I'll concede that that's a good point, actually.
#5.2 Darkinspiration on 14 Jan 2007 - 19:21
heerrg not really divx support is available from a lot of media extender and a lot of portable video player. Yet the ipod video is king despite not having divx support.

its rally going to be all about the implementation.

the media extender market is just only starting to make waves, wait and see.
#5.3 PsychoDoughBoy on 15 Jan 2007 - 03:56
Quote - (tiddlie said @ #5)
There's one key to winning this market. It's called DivX support. The first TV streaming device to be mass produced with DivX support wins. Simple. Now take that on board Cisco.


I bet 90% of consumers don't even know what DivX is, let alone give a toss about it.
(1 reply) #6 g0wg on 14 Jan 2007 - 11:12
Essentially, whats the difference between this (and AppleTV) and the Windows's based MediaCenter I have connected to my TV?
#6.1 Darkinspiration on 14 Jan 2007 - 19:36
well your media center is a computer, it's not a media extender. You can capture, edit, stream and burn content. a media extender usualy can only stream and maybe capture. It's a frontend to a computer backend
#7 eilegz on 14 Jan 2007 - 20:23
hard time for cisco, its not that apple have it easier neither.
#8 digitalsoft on 14 Jan 2007 - 23:37
come on cisco! you educate me now entertain me! - whey that works...

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