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First Look: Microsoft Surface Computing

Slimy   on 30 May 2007 - 04:09 · 125 comments & 37303 views

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Channel 10 has revealed the Microsoft Surface Computer, a fully functioning multi-touch computing system – a project which started four years ago and will be launched later this year. "Surface computers will start with Microsoft partners getting first shot at various public applications, you'll most likely see them in action in Las Vegas first. Eventually prices will come down and production will go up and I expect we'll all be waving through our playlists on our coffee table before we know it," according to Channel 10's Larry Larsen.

In the video, Mark Bolger, Director of Marketing Surface Computing, explains to Larry Larsen what surface computing is all about. The computer is comprised of a Vista-based system, multiple cameras using infrared light and a DLP projector. “We’re looking at Microsoft’s first surface computer. We’re excited that we’re going to make an announcement for this product on May 30th, at the Wallstreet’s Journal D-conference. What we’re going to be doing is announcing that this product will be available later this year in commercial partners that we have lined up. Specifically, we’ll going to be going into hotels, retailers, entertainment venues, such as casino resorts.”

Bolger then demonstrates how he and Larsen can use a program called Paint (not to be confused with Windows’ MS Paint) with their hands in a multi-touch and multi-user environment. He then grabs two typical paint brushes and shows Larsen how the computer system detects different pressure and widths of the paint brush. He also shows how tagged objects with a dotted pattern can be used, more than once, to bring up a specific image (motionless or animated) on the table-screen.

Bolger then goes on to show an application from one of Microsoft’s partners, T-mobile. When he places a phone on the surface the computer instantly recognizes it and starts spewing out images and information about the device. “What we’re doing is we’re blending the physical and virtual worlds together into one vibrant experience on a tabletop,” he announces. When another phone is placed onto the table, the screen changes to compare the two devices in the space between them. Bolger physically moves them apart, giving the information displayed more space. Once the user chooses a phone, they can browse through possible plans, compare them, compare texting plans, check coverage areas, play a ringtone and add everything, by dragging and dropping, to the final invoice.

The tabletop computer can even help out your typical waiter. Bolger demonstrates how to browse through possible items for your order, whether you’re doing it for the first time or if you’ve been at the restaurant before, using a card to bring up your past orders. Once a meal arrives, tagged cutlery can allow for further interaction with the table, whether it is an advertisement or a game to keep the kids busy. Once it comes time to pay the bill, if you wish to use multiple payment methods, just place them on the table divide the items accordingly. A tip calculator is also included.

Using yet another loyalty card, your associated online photos or videos from different online servers will appear on the screen. You can then take the content, view it, manipulate it and zoom in or out. Using a wi-fi camera, taking a picture, placing it on the tabletop, manipulating the photo with templates, turning it into a postcard, writing a quick message and sending it off using the online service from the original loyalty card, is all very easily done. Bolger then shows off how to use the tabletop as your tour guide, when entering a resort for example. Bolger shows how a map pops up and allows you to make reservations, purchase tickets and essentially plan out your day.

In terms of the music experience, the tabletop can be used to choose a specific song or album and place it in a queue or, throw it on your Zune via Wi-Fi. The same goes for sharing songs between two Zunes - the experience becomes a physical (virtual) reality. After carefully putting the Zunes away, Bolger demonstrates a video puzzle with glass blocks, which is essentially your typical puzzle except that the pieces are parts of a video that is being played back at you, audio and all. Bolger finishes off the demonstration with a calm tone. He shows how the Water program allows anyone (waiting in a lobby for example) to interact with a simple image.

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Link: Microsoft Surface
News source: Channel 10

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(2 replies) #1 MioTheGreat on 30 May 2007 - 04:25
Wow....
#1.1 Amano on 30 May 2007 - 09:34
Quote - (MioTheGreat said @ #1)
Wow....

The Wow starts Now

WMV (High) correct link
http://on10.net/link/6a6b8f39-2bb4-4bd5-8ee5-89789ca816a3/
#1.2 vetSlimy on 30 May 2007 - 12:08
Quote - (Amano said @ #1.1)
Quote - (MioTheGreat said @ #1)
Wow....

The Wow starts Now

WMV (High) correct link
http://on10.net/link/6a6b8f39-2bb4-4bd5-8ee5-89789ca816a3/

Thanks, fixed.
#2 vetRadish™ on 30 May 2007 - 04:25
Awesome! :|

Radish™
(1 reply) #3 mauro on 30 May 2007 - 04:27
Looks like the Etch-A-Sketch has evolved.
#3.1 excalpius on 31 May 2007 - 00:06
but ya can't shake this one!
#4 Wanderermy on 30 May 2007 - 04:28
Very cool!!
I want it!!
#5 xpablo on 30 May 2007 - 04:40
Awesome, Cool.
#6 Admodieus on 30 May 2007 - 04:43
this is awesome. the restaurant demo alone sold me on it.
(3 replies) #7 ArtOf_War on 30 May 2007 - 04:43
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/

Sweeeet it seems what we saw from Jeff Han @ TED 2006 is finally coming to us
#7.1 Sir G on 30 May 2007 - 04:59
Quote - (ArtOf_War said @ #7)
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/

Sweeeet it seems what we saw from Jeff Han @ TED 2006 is finally coming to us


Exactly what I was thinking too! Very nice indeed!!
#7.2 +rm20010 on 30 May 2007 - 05:08
I was thinking about that same demo as well.

This demo just opened up a wide range of possibilities we can expect from this technology. Like video puzzles.
#7.3 Sir G on 30 May 2007 - 05:21
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I was thinking about that same demo as well.

This demo just opened up a wide range of possibilities we can expect from this technology. Like video puzzles.


...and something else for those of us with little patience to throw when we're unable to solve it!
(4 replies) #8 stgeorge on 30 May 2007 - 04:44
Wanderermy: unless you own a casino or a hotel, i don't think you're getting one of these... it's meant as an attraction, MS is moving into the frivolous tech toys business.
#8.1 tommytom02 on 30 May 2007 - 04:53
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Wanderermy: MS is moving into the frivolous tech toys business.


yeah and nobody will ever need more than 640k of ram either...

#8.2 Jugalator on 30 May 2007 - 07:10
All examples used on the front page are for businesses and public displays, and Microsoft even says so in the announcement, so stgeorge is probably right. As for THIS product at least. However, who knows, a new version more geared for home use might of course be possible.
#8.3 phiberoptik on 30 May 2007 - 13:46
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Quote - (stgeorge said @ #
Wanderermy: MS is moving into the frivolous tech toys business.


yeah and nobody will ever need more than 640k of ram either...


That quote was never actually said... check for yourself..
#8.4 Boz on 30 May 2007 - 19:55
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All examples used on the front page are for businesses and public displays, and Microsoft even says so in the announcement, so stgeorge is probably right. As for THIS product at least. However, who knows, a new version more geared for home use might of course be possible.


Not valid. Why? I'll tell you why. The technology is flashy, it looks cool, it has a million possibilites too, not just for business and eye candy. It's simple. You just have to imagine.

Scenario:

I come home from a walk, I had my camera with me, I drop the camera on the coffee table and right away I see the photos I took, I review the photos I like and flick them to the WiFi net basket icon in the upper right corner and the photos are transfered to my portable devices as well as My Pictures folder on the laptop and Media Center.

I walk over to my kitchen island and decide to make a nice dinner. I need some advices with photos and receipes, so I look at the island's surface to see listing of all recipes for the food I took out of the fridge and island has information about, weight and stuff like that.

Samples like this go on and on when you imagine what you can do with the technology in your own house. The possibilities become even more amazing when you do apply this technology to the public spaces, restaurants, stations, bars etc etc.

I don't understand how people can be so shortsighted, I really can't. I guess that's the problem, it's either that people don't WANT to support Microsoft and love Apple products and fancy visuals so much that nothing can ever be made good by other people except Apple themselves. Ridiculous.
(1 reply) #9 +Nienor on 30 May 2007 - 04:50
Imagine that with more advanced tech, "Minority Report" screens are now possible...

Anyway, I already saw that before...
Bill gate have showed it in one of it's speech about future technologies.
#9.1 stifler6478 on 30 May 2007 - 05:15
He actually presented a more primitive form of this at a presentation at my University back in October 2005. It was cool then and even cooler now

-Spenser
(1 reply) #10 batbeef on 30 May 2007 - 04:53
the future is now
#10.1 yert* on 30 May 2007 - 09:24
The future is the future. Now is the present. Get it right.
(1 reply) #11 batbeef on 30 May 2007 - 04:58
just finished the video, what i found was that this has no practical uses for people like u and me. however it seems like it could do alot of wonders in the commercial are. im really excited now becuase its really ionnovative and like they said, its gonna come out this year
#11.1 excalpius on 31 May 2007 - 00:09
Speak for yourself. I can and will find something to use it for today.
(1 reply) #12 thollian on 30 May 2007 - 05:03
seem pretty cool, not sure how the home user would use it though....
#12.1 NPGMBR on 30 May 2007 - 17:13
As with all new technologies its not intended for the individual consumer. For one its bound to be very pricey, but as years pass and prices fall and manufacturers build on the technology; it will become practical to create applications and devices targeted directly at the consumer.

You have to keep these things in mind. Don't forget, Computers were once not practical and unaffordable for the average consumer, yet today almost every household has one.

Who says Microsoft doesn't innvate?
#13 winlonghorn on 30 May 2007 - 05:06
This is truly incredible! I bet this interface is going to be the basis for Windows Vienna. Of course that is just a wild guess! Either way, I have to have it! lol
(2 replies) #14 Scutley on 30 May 2007 - 05:13
I wonder if it will be available for homes, and just imagine if you could order food from home like a pizza, or subs and you can go pick it up or have it delivered. That will be cool.
#14.1 Croquant on 30 May 2007 - 14:47
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I wonder if it will be available for homes, and just imagine if you could order food from home like a pizza, or subs and you can go pick it up or have it delivered. That will be cool.

You can already do that.
http://www.pizza73.com/
It's called HTML.
#14.2 Esvandiary on 30 May 2007 - 19:03
Now now Croquant, if you're going to be picky like that you've got to be reeeally picky...

You mean HTML, Flash (for some "fun" reason), and whatever backend they've got running
#15 Scirwode on 30 May 2007 - 05:14
I'm speechless . Imagine the possibilities with this. I can even save on paper when I play Tic Tac Toe .

Scirwode
#16 Stunna on 30 May 2007 - 05:25
This ownz
#17 Mahmood on 30 May 2007 - 05:27
iam speechless amazing product this is product of the feature and the best i have ever seen !!waiting for the price and products that will come !!! microsoft is going well and in the right direction !! GO microsoft !!!
#18 iomega on 30 May 2007 - 05:27
sick.. looks like were getting to that minority report type of computer
(2 replies) #19 Mikee4fun on 30 May 2007 - 05:33
Saw this surface demo a year ago with the resizing of pictures. I did not know Microsoft was going to develop this to commercial so fast. Dawm I have to upgrade my glass desk to my new surface computer. I need a surface bed too so I can have my porn as well..Hah
#19.1 tiagosilva29 on 30 May 2007 - 12:28
If I recall properly, it wasn't Microsoft's. It was an university student's HCI project.

In fact, if you search in youtube, you'll find several university projects like this.
#19.2 MioTheGreat on 30 May 2007 - 15:01
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=19174

That was from last year.

http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/

He presented his earlier this year.



This isn't really anything that new, it's just that the software has never been there, and no one's ever put the push behind it as a viable interface that Microsoft can.
#20 The_Decryptor on 30 May 2007 - 05:37
Looks cool, reuse of some old idea's, hopefully they can bring it to market (and make it usable)
#21 omega3112 on 30 May 2007 - 05:37
what's the music playing when the guy shows off the "music in a restaurant" thingy?
(2 replies) #22 Krazzer on 30 May 2007 - 05:41
I think this is for all the people who say Microsoft isn't Innovative, totally amazing piece of hardware and software, the possiblities of uses for this seems so endless.
#22.1 QuarterSwede on 30 May 2007 - 19:18
Microsoft's R&D is innovative for sure (we've known that). But Microsoft has a tendency to kill great ideas or take a lot of the innovation out of what R&D put on the table (compare Longhorn PDC03 to Vista).

It's great that this is actually going to go into production and be used commercially where it can flourish. This is really the first great commercial use for multi-touch. Just excellent ideas here. I hate to say it but great job Microsoft.
#22.2 Krazzer on 30 May 2007 - 21:59
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Microsoft's R&D is innovative for sure (we've known that). But Microsoft has a tendency to kill great ideas or take a lot of the innovation out of what R&D put on the table (compare Longhorn PDC03 to Vista).

It's great that this is actually going to go into production and be used commercially where it can flourish. This is really the first great commercial use for multi-touch. Just excellent ideas here. I hate to say it but great job Microsoft.


I agree that a lot of their R&D projects get killed, but I'd be willing to bet they take a lot of specific parts out of those killed projects and implment them through out other areas of their software.
#23 lfLASHl on 30 May 2007 - 05:49
this puts some more faith into M$.. looking forward to having one on these in my room.....
(1 reply) #24 Rudy on 30 May 2007 - 06:04
i doubt the "general public" will be able to use it
#24.1 Gamerhomie on 30 May 2007 - 07:05
No, not right away. First it'll be available where you will have to pay for services (hotels and such) but I'm sure one day we'll have one. Computers weren't available to the general; public for a few decades, and look where we are now...
(4 replies) #25 reidtheweed01 on 30 May 2007 - 06:09
If they develop it enough for home use they would be perfect inside a kitchen countertop or a entertainment room.
#25.1 PsychoDoughBoy on 30 May 2007 - 06:19
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If they develop it enough for home use they would be perfect inside a kitchen countertop or a entertainment room.


Yes. Cutting up steaks on a monitor would be simply divine.
#25.2 +Berserk87 on 30 May 2007 - 08:22
Quote - (PsychoDoughBoy said @ #25.1)
Quote - (reidtheweed01 said @ #25)
If they develop it enough for home use they would be perfect inside a kitchen countertop or a entertainment room.


Yes. Cutting up steaks on a monitor would be simply divine.


lmao
#25.3 GP007 on 30 May 2007 - 09:16
Quote - (PsychoDoughBoy said @ #25.1)
Quote - (reidtheweed01 said @ #25)
If they develop it enough for home use they would be perfect inside a kitchen countertop or a entertainment room.


Yes. Cutting up steaks on a monitor would be simply divine.


You wouldn't cut on it, hell, you wouldn't cut steaks on the countertop itself unless you're lazy and such. Most people own and use cutting boards.
#25.4 MioTheGreat on 30 May 2007 - 15:04
It's rear projection.

First, you don't cut on countertops. If they're hard enough not to get scratched (Which this screen can probably be made to be, since it's just a coated piece of glass with a projector behind it), they're going to damage your knife.
#26 RDX on 30 May 2007 - 07:00
This could be a big stepping stone for the Zune, If Microsoft can get this into every tech store out there and connect it with the Zune via wireless or w/e, so people would be able to just buy cds at the store just from it. Imagine a whole bunch of rows of just this screens, people would go nuts over this new touch screen technology at the stores.
(6 replies) #27 Jugalator on 30 May 2007 - 07:15
To be honest, all it looks like to me is a touchscreen display; the "intelligence" seem to be in the touchscreen software. And I can't really say I have never dragged around objects with my hand on a touchscreen before?
#27.1 mprobins on 30 May 2007 - 11:38
Quote - (Jugalator said @ #1)
To be honest, all it looks like to me is a touchscreen display; the "intelligence" seem to be in the touchscreen software. And I can't really say I have never dragged around objects with my hand on a touchscreen before?


Then you need to look a little bit closer. Aside from the multi-input capabilities, the ability to recognize specific items placed on the surface and even interact with them takes computing to a whole new level.
#27.2 Jugalator on 30 May 2007 - 14:11
What do you mean with "recognize items on the surface"? Obviously you have been able to do that with regular touch screen displays too, otherwise you can't interact with them?

What's different with this compared to other touch screens you interact with?
#27.3 MioTheGreat on 30 May 2007 - 15:05
Quote - (Jugalator said @ #27.2)
What do you mean with "recognize items on the surface"? Obviously you have been able to do that with regular touch screen displays too, otherwise you can't interact with them?

What's different with this compared to other touch screens you interact with?


Other touch screens can't tell the difference between two objects placed on them. This uses cameras to be able to differentiate based on shape, IR reflectivity, etc.
#27.4 Jugalator on 30 May 2007 - 18:17
Ooh, I thought you just used your hand and fingers to move around objects on it and thought "huh?" because that's indeed old tech, but sure, if it detects different kinds of objects automatically without having a user need to tell what's applying the pressure, then that could be useful in some applications.
#27.5 QuarterSwede on 30 May 2007 - 19:24
Quote - (MioTheGreat said @ #27.3)
Quote - (Jugalator said @ #27.2)
What do you mean with "recognize items on the surface"? Obviously you have been able to do that with regular touch screen displays too, otherwise you can't interact with them?

What's different with this compared to other touch screens you interact with?


Other touch screens can't tell the difference between two objects placed on them. This uses cameras to be able to differentiate based on shape, IR reflectivity, etc.

It depends heavily on RFID. Everything he put on the table was tagged with one (all the cards, the glass, etc.). This is really the first great use for RFID for end users even if that's in a commercial application.
#27.6 RAID 0 on 31 May 2007 - 04:25
Quote - (QuarterSwede said @ #27.5)
Quote - (MioTheGreat said @ #27.3)
Quote - (Jugalator said @ #27.2)
What do you mean with "recognize items on the surface"? Obviously you have been able to do that with regular touch screen displays too, otherwise you can't interact with them?

What's different with this compared to other touch screens you interact with?


Other touch screens can't tell the difference between two objects placed on them. This uses cameras to be able to differentiate based on shape, IR reflectivity, etc.

It depends heavily on RFID. Everything he put on the table was tagged with one (all the cards, the glass, etc.). This is really the first great use for RFID for end users even if that's in a commercial application.


The guy in the video said it was NOT RFID.
(1 reply) #28 +LTD on 30 May 2007 - 07:41
MS is usually faster at copying ideas from competitors, but really fubars the implementation (i.e., eye-cady in Vista.)

This at least seems to hold some promise.
#28.1 C_Guy on 30 May 2007 - 17:13
I think you're commening on the wrong story. This isn't about Vista (which we know has fewer thefted ideas than it's low market-share competitor) and it's not about copying ideas. Unless you somehow think they got the touch screen idea from iPhone. But if you bothered to read the article or visit the Surface website you'd see that Surface is a true innovation beyond simple touch-screen technology and opens the door to many new opportunities.
#29 +Berserk87 on 30 May 2007 - 08:19
when this kinda of technology is implemented and common in public, i will consider it the next jump in technology in my lifetime, i even though some of you may not be very impressed with it, i thinks its a huge development.
(2 replies) #30 Peter McGrath on 30 May 2007 - 09:58
I thought it was pretty boring. Nothing more than a fancy touchscreen.

The demo had a bug too.

When his guest was painting in red with his paintbrush, and the host dipped his paintbrush in blue, then they were both painting in blue!


ho hum... yawn...
#30.1 vetneufuse on 30 May 2007 - 11:04
Quote - (Peter McGrath said @ #30)
I thought it was pretty boring. Nothing more than a fancy touchscreen.

The demo had a bug too.

When his guest was painting in red with his paintbrush, and the host dipped his paintbrush in blue, then they were both painting in blue!


ho hum... yawn...


Good greif its a freaking demo app! its not a real application... get a life if you have to nit pick on such a stupidly small thing.. sheesh... its still way more then anything out there now
#30.2 +Vegetunks on 30 May 2007 - 14:09
OMG!! You're a freaking lamo for seeing that. Get a life dude
(2 replies) #31 z0phi3l on 30 May 2007 - 10:00
To those wondering about a use for the home. GAMES!. Imagine being able to play say, Starcraft2 on one of those, no need for a mouse to send troops to the enemy, etc.


We'll have to see the final product and pricing, and API before really getting into it.
#31.1 mprobins on 30 May 2007 - 11:42
Screw starcraft. Think of any traditional board game where you have pieces to move and dice to roll.

This thing can handle all of the "game management" duties -- show the game board, show who's turn it is, what options are available to the player, etc, while still giving players tangible real world items to interact with.

Hell, you could roll the dice and it would be able to determine what the roll came up as, look for "your" piece on the board, and show you what your valid moves are.
#31.2 excalpius on 31 May 2007 - 00:14
the ultimate dungeons & dragons table
#32 digitalsoft on 30 May 2007 - 10:50
i've just pre-ordered mine. NOT. tis rather amazing, i wonder if it could be developed into a bath lol, always imagined a computer in ya bath.
#33 linsook on 30 May 2007 - 11:02
what caught me was the thought of having this at restraurants and not having to deal with servers. orders can be made promptly, splitting bills made easy and tips aswell.
#34 Bobster on 30 May 2007 - 11:04
OMG that is immense! I'm getting myself one of those as soon as it's released!
#35 vetneufuse on 30 May 2007 - 11:05
wonder how long till they are sued for pattents?.. There has to be a vague patent out there somewhere that says "using a device with multiple fingers or objects"... you know there has to be someone seems to of patented every vague term by now...
#36 FiREFLi on 30 May 2007 - 11:32
that's awesome.
(3 replies) #37 Draganta on 30 May 2007 - 11:43
Excellent product. I can't wait till it comes out.

On a side note, I find it funny that they did the images on a MAC. See for yourself. http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ download the Microsoft Suface Logo Set and open the ZIP. There is a .DS_Store file in the ZIP.
#37.1 vetneufuse on 30 May 2007 - 11:45
Quote - (Draganta said @ #37)
Excellent product. I can't wait till it comes out.

On a side note, I find it funny that they did the images on a MAC. See for yourself. http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ download the Microsoft Suface Logo Set and open the ZIP. There is a .DS_Store file in the ZIP.


So? Microsoft lets their employees use Mac's also... btw its not "MAC" thats an acronym... MS does a lot of Mac development in addition to Windows development... heck the XBOX360 was developed on a Mac, coded on a Mac and games were tested on Mac's originally...
#37.2 Draganta on 30 May 2007 - 18:15
What's interesting it runs vista but graphics done on a Mac.