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Microsoft Promises Vista SP1 beta before November 12th

Tom Warren   on 26 June 2007 - 10:04 · 28 comments & 11389 views

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Microsoft Corp. late today fired off a return legal salvo at Google Inc., and filed a memorandum with a federal judge arguing that its rival should not be allowed to intervene in the antitrust case settled in 2002.

Earlier Monday, Google submitted a request to file an amicus curiae, or "friend of the court," brief with Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, who oversees the consent decree between federal and state regulators on one side, and Microsoft on the other. In the brief, Google said that last week's deal over changes to Windows Vista's desktop search didn't go far enough, and it asked the judge to extend her oversight to make sure Microsoft made good on its promises.

Hours later, Microsoft contended that Google has no standing in the case, and so should not be allowed to join the settlement discussion. "Google has nothing new to offer the Court, except for the veiled request that this Court go behind the enforcement decision of the plaintiffs and make Google the '20th Plaintiff'," Microsoft's seven-page memo read.

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#1 torrentthief on 26 Jun 2007 - 10:20
its only a beta though who knows if it will even be a public beta, wish sp1 final was out nov 12th!!!
(3 replies) #2 +xan K on 26 Jun 2007 - 10:57
Where does it say about Vista SP1 or November 12th? The article and the title are not very related.
#2.1 creamhackered on 26 Jun 2007 - 11:27
Clearly you need to read the article properly:

Also in the memo, Microsoft attempted to undercut Google's reason for extending the consent decree by promising to release a beta Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) before the decree's Nov. 12 expiration. Google had hinted that Microsoft, which had previously committed to launching SP1 only before the end of the year, might never implement the changes. The Nov. 12 deadline for Vista SP1 is the firmest timetable yet for any major milestone of the update.
#2.2 +TCLN Ryster on 26 Jun 2007 - 12:07
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Clearly you need to read the article properly:

Also in the memo, Microsoft attempted to undercut Google's reason for extending the consent decree by promising to release a beta Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) before the decree's Nov. 12 expiration. Google had hinted that Microsoft, which had previously committed to launching SP1 only before the end of the year, might never implement the changes. The Nov. 12 deadline for Vista SP1 is the firmest timetable yet for any major milestone of the update.

I think he's referring to the summary posted on Neowin. Generally you expect the Neowin summary to contain at least some mention of the topic in the subject of the news. This article doesn't.
#2.3 Davebo on 26 Jun 2007 - 12:39
Quote - (creamhackered said @ #2.1)
Clearly you need to read the article properly:


Clearly your newsposters should read the article properly, so they'd post an appropriate summary. The summary that's posted looks like it's from a totally unrelated story. Those are the hazards when you C&P your news, I suppose...
(1 reply) #3 Alto on 26 Jun 2007 - 11:23
LOL, they should know by now never to 'promise' anything. They never get anything released on time.
#3.1 Kirkburn on 26 Jun 2007 - 11:58
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LOL, they should know by now never to 'promise' anything. They never get anything released on time.
Yes, because all Microsoft makes is Windows. Nothing else.
#4 Angel Blue01 on 26 Jun 2007 - 13:26
Why don't they get the actual srvice pack done by November, it'll be a year and too late for the back to school season?
#5 Julius Caro on 26 Jun 2007 - 14:08
Announced for november 12th? Then we should be expecting it for January 30th. Deja vu!
#6 Tech_Dude_5000 on 26 Jun 2007 - 14:09
most of the article was all about google and their bitcing about microsoft. only a small part talked about SP1.

Who ever did the article needs to find better sources to make things more clear...
(4 replies) #7 +Skwerl on 26 Jun 2007 - 14:38
Google has become a real whine-baby. Google is acting more and more like a jealous child and less like the innovator they began as. They appear to be increasingly shifting focus to duplicating Microsoft's offerings rather than creating anything really new.
#7.1 MrCobra on 26 Jun 2007 - 15:10
The only thing Google has ever innovated was thier search engine. Everything else they "innovate" has been purchased.
#7.2 Zkal on 26 Jun 2007 - 15:10
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Google has become a real whine-baby. Google is acting more and more like a jealous child and less like the innovator they began as. They appear to be increasingly shifting focus to duplicating Microsoft's offerings rather than creating anything really new.

Agreed. I have began to hate Google because they are always complaining about almost everything. That's why I switched from Google to Windows Live.
#7.3 TRC on 26 Jun 2007 - 16:02
Not to mention Google's privacy issues, the amount of data they collect and store from their users is ridiculous. What are they going to do with all that, it costs them money to save it all. Obviously they plan on using it to make money, sell to advertisers in my opinion. This isn't the Google that started out as a college project and became a great search engine, it's the huge corporation Google that wants to take over just as bad if not worse than Microsoft does. There is nothing about them to admire. Maybe their diehard fans will finally realize that.
#7.4 JaredFrost on 26 Jun 2007 - 17:53
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Agreed. I have began to hate Google because they are always complaining about almost everything. That's why I switched from Google to Windows Live.


I agree also, and I also switched from Google to Windows Live the other week
(1 reply) #8 TRC on 26 Jun 2007 - 15:59
I have to agree, what in the world does Google have to do with this case? They have no business in it at all.
#8.1 trip21 on 26 Jun 2007 - 23:31
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I have to agree, what in the world does Google have to do with this case? They have no business in it at all.

They don't like it when MS make any dash at their own attempts to take over the world!!
(1 reply) #9 Amodin on 26 Jun 2007 - 16:54
http://www.vistasp1.net/

Just in case you want to see what's coming out for SP1 for Vista
#9.1 P1R4T3 on 26 Jun 2007 - 19:04
Thx for the link.
(4 replies) #10 kev_gordon on 26 Jun 2007 - 16:55
WTF???? Since when does a Service Pack come out as a Beta?

So we find and report the original Vista bugs, and then we find and report the bugs in the fixes for the bugs....

I like Vista, but this is ridiculous!
#10.1 Nimitz on 26 Jun 2007 - 17:20
So you would rather they release an untested buggy piece of software?
#10.2 M118LR on 26 Jun 2007 - 17:44
Service Packs have always gone through the full Beta process. The latest being Server 2003 SP2/XP 64 SP2. The Beta can run 6 months. The longest Beta in terms of time was for XP SP2.
#10.3 Jugalator on 26 Jun 2007 - 23:39
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WTF???? Since when does a Service Pack come out as a Beta?

MS has done it since at least 7 years ago with Windows 2000 SP1 beta on MSDN.

What's the problem really?

Obviously, more public testing by those who don't mind doing that sort of thing will mean a better final product because MS get more bug reports.
#10.4 whocares78 on 27 Jun 2007 - 01:58
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WTF???? Since when does a Service Pack come out as a Beta?

MS has done it since at least 7 years ago with Windows 2000 SP1 beta on MSDN.

What's the problem really?

Obviously, more public testing by those who don't mind doing that sort of thing will mean a better final product because MS get more bug reports.


The problem on this site is a lot of people have no idea what beta is or why it's used, hence they stick it on their production machines and bitch.

I totally agree with everything you say, i woudl much rather someone else finds the bugs than I do.What really scares me is this they say they like vista, so hey i wouldn't believe a lot they say
(1 reply) #11 Turion on 26 Jun 2007 - 18:44
MS has been suffering from poor management. But it is nice to know that SP1 is on the horizon. :-)
#11.1 whocares78 on 27 Jun 2007 - 02:00
LMAO,

i see now, thats why they are one of the biggest companies in the world. i think the company i wrrk for needs to get some poor managers, MS has a lot of products and saying their management in general is poor is just stupid, from what i have seen of office 2007 the management team behind that is brilliant.
(1 reply) #12 toadeater on 27 Jun 2007 - 00:20
I'm glad I didn't "upgrade" to Vista yet.
#12.1 whocares78 on 27 Jun 2007 - 02:02
you and everyone else that hasn't but that has nothign to do with sp1, just the fact vista sux

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