Microsoft Hands out XP SP3 beta – Final SP for XP
Posted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 05 October 2007 - 09:47 · 25 comments & 16000 views
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- Vista with SP1
4XP with SP3
9Any None Microsoft OS
2Total votes: 15
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#1 Posted by cork1958 on 05 Oct 2007 - 09:57
- I've often wondered what's the sense of SP's if they are really nothing more than all the updates rolled into one mess. The ONLY reason I install them is because you can't get all new updates after a SP has been released until you install that SP.
So, really, what's the sense of SP's if you've been updating all along.
Along the lines of this thread. How come none of the polls on this site show the results after voting anymore? Must be another part of that poll on the front page asking about Neowin still needing work. Yes, it does big time. -
#1.1 Posted by Optix Illusion on 05 Oct 2007 - 10:36
- Quote - (cork1958 said @ #1)So, really, what's the sense of SP's if you've been updating all along.
For starters, network administrators can deploy updates through corporate or small business networks to hundreds or even thousands of computers with a single Service Pack .exe file, instead of using Windows Update individually for each machine.
This is one of MANY examples, but we can leave it at that for now. -
#1.2 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 05 Oct 2007 - 10:43
- There are several uses for a service pack.
1) Sometimes there are updates in a service pack that cannot be deployed in any other way. Kernel changes for instance. It would not be practical to replace the kernel of an operating system in a Windows Update download.
2) Service Packs save you time when installing an operating system from scratch.
p.s. The poll results show after voting for me. Maybe you have cache issue. Try deleting your cache and cookies. -
#1.3 Posted by kaiwai on 05 Oct 2007 - 15:04
- Quote - (TCLN Ryster said @ #1.2)There are several uses for a service pack.
1) Sometimes there are updates in a service pack that cannot be deployed in any other way. Kernel changes for instance. It would not be practical to replace the kernel of an operating system in a Windows Update download.
2) Service Packs save you time when installing an operating system from scratch.
p.s. The poll results show after voting for me. Maybe you have cache issue. Try deleting your cache and cookies.
It also includes alot of the fixes which can only he accesed by 'paying' enterprise customers; those quick fixes are then tested for extended periods of time before merging.
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#2 Posted by Jugalator on 05 Oct 2007 - 10:09
- How typical of MS, not supporting XP with an SP4 after this!!11
No but seriously I was surprised they even decided for SP3. That will be very nice to have slipstreamed and keep lengthening Windows XP's lifetime. (not talking of MS' lifecycle thing here)
But still, oh boy doesn't Vista SP1 feel more urgent to me, and our company if we are at all going to consider deploying...
So the vote is obvious to me at least. -
#2.1 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 05 Oct 2007 - 10:45
- Quote - (Jugalator said @ #2)How typical of MS, not supporting XP with an SP4 after this!!11
No but seriously I was surprised they even decided for SP3. That will be very nice to have slipstreamed and keep lengthening Windows XP's lifetime. (not talking of MS' lifecycle thing here)
But still, oh boy doesn't Vista SP1 feel more urgent to me, and our company if we are at all going to consider deploying... So the vote is obvious to me at least.
Microsoft did not say that updates would stop after SP3, they just said SP3 would be the last service pack.
As was the case with Windows 2000, they will continue to roll out updates in the form of rollup packs and standalone updates which (as far as I recall) can still be slipstreamed into an installation media.
Maybe I was unclear, but I didn't intend to tell anything else.-
#3 Posted by ThaCrip on 05 Oct 2007 - 10:23
- i picked "XP with SP3" cause XP is just a overall safer bet as of now.
although i do agree with jugulator... where he said Vista needs a service pack more than XP does.
although for me... i aint even thinking about attempting vista til atleast SP1 for it AT MINIMUM... odds are i probably wont tough vista realistically til it's a mainstream standard... which probably wont be atleast for another year or more (give or take).
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#4 Posted by m-p{3} on 05 Oct 2007 - 11:20
- In my opinion I find Windows XP SP3 more interesting as an administrator than Vista SP1. Having an up to date installation CD will be a nice thing to have, and we'll be able to clear some updates from WSUS.
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#5 Posted by chaosblade on 05 Oct 2007 - 12:08
- I wonder whats the point of this poll. Other than creating troll wars, that is. Points of interest? Hm.
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#6 Posted by necrosis on 05 Oct 2007 - 12:39
- I for one will be gland once SP3 is out. Updated CD/network share install, no downloading (on average) 85 micro updates after installing the base OS.
SP3 for Office 2003 + SP3 for XP makes me one happy camper. -
#6.1 Posted by buletov on 05 Oct 2007 - 14:41
- You obviously haven't heard for RyanVM Windows XP Post-SP2 update pack. I personally use it for about two years and have no need for a new SP. His pack actually offers more functionality than SP, because there are hundreds of addons available at his forums. Go and check it out, and forget the manual updates after install forever!
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#7 Posted by Magallanes on 05 Oct 2007 - 13:13
- It's time to break working functionality in pro to people will decide to jump to vista.
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#8 Posted by s3pHiX on 05 Oct 2007 - 13:42
- The only way Vista is getting on my Laptop or any I build for my client's it to have someone actually come and do it for me, because I'm not the least interested in switch to MS Pista!
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#9 Posted by Croquant on 05 Oct 2007 - 15:32
- "Any None Microsoft OS"
I believe you meant Any non-Microsoft OS.
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#10 Posted by eilegz on 05 Oct 2007 - 16:07
- NT go to 6 SP, 2000 to 4 SP and now XP with 3 SP, next vista would only have 1 SP before the new version of windows
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#12 Posted by ThePitt on 05 Oct 2007 - 16:36
- interesting way to "upgrade" to vista. like it or not?... people in the goverment still using 2000 and in some places 98.
Give me a break once again m$
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#13 Posted by IntelliMoo on 05 Oct 2007 - 17:30
- Cool, glad to know I'll be using my final ms os now with sp3.
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#14 Posted by randomnut on 05 Oct 2007 - 17:44
- Funnily enough just as i'm reading this i'm formatting my main desktop back to windows XP. I've just had enough with Vista's really really bad performance. not only that but for some strange reason it's decided to stop opening the control panel and will only connect to my wireless network in local mode and won't see the internet at all.
With how vista sp1 looks to be shaping up, i'm not even going to try and touch it until sp2.
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#16 Posted by ShiZZa on 05 Oct 2007 - 19:04
- If MS gets on there track thats the plan, you will have OS core release, SP1, then OS core + extras (aka R2) / SP2, Then new Core OS.
Therefore it will be quite fitting to see the final Service Pack for XP – arguably one of the most stable platforms Microsoft has created so far, landing around the same time as Service Pack 1 for Vista it’s much maligned latest OS. Lets us know which you would prefer as your OS of choice now by voting in the poll attached to this news item.