Long Zheng has conveniently clipped out about 8 minutes worth of video footage of the current Windows 7 kernel, taken from a much longer (over one hour) video of Microsoft’s distinguished engineer Eric Traut’ October 13 presentation at the University of Illinois about Microsoft’s virtualization technology (hypervisors and whatnot). “Whilst the presentation is not directly about Windows 7, it does contain a demonstration of MinWin - an internal project to build the most efficient Windows kernel which will in turn be used in Windows 7,” Zheng notes. I’ve included both links below for your enjoyment but I’d like to thank Zheng especially for his excellent video clipping skills. If you don't want to watch the 8 minute video, I'll try to summarize by saying: "Windows 7 kernel in 25 megs on disk and under 40 megs of memory."
Download: Full WMV video (1 hour & 6 minutes)
Video: Windows 7 Footage (8 minutes)
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Windows Seven (not 7) is called what is for a different reason than he said.
NT 3.1 was actually the first NT, not 3.5 like he said.
Count the releases starting there.
NT 3.1
NT 3.51
NT 4
Windows 2000 (NT 5)
Windows XP (NT 5.1)
Windows Vista (NT 6)
Windows Seven (NT 7)
You do the math
For starters, you missed Windows Server 2003 which is v5.2, therefore your whole idea is blown right out of the water. You also failed to mention Windows NT 3.5, so that's what? 8 releases prior to Windows 7.
For starters, you missed Windows Server 2003 which is v5.2, therefore your whole idea is blown right out of the water. You also failed to mention Windows NT 3.5, so that's what? 8 releases prior to Windows 7.
I'm not counting server releases.
That's based on NT-based client releases alone, but then again what would I know.
I mean I only had Jon DeVaan, Senior Vice President of Core Operating Systems tell me that this was the rational behind the codename.
So yeah I know nothing,
EDIT-Also 3.5 and 3.51 are counted as one version as the difference in version was a minor point release, instead of a major point release. So based off of Major Revisions of the Client OS you have 7 versions.
Re-read my post, balupton.
My information comes from someone higher up in the company than this guy.
Re-read my post, balupton.
My information comes from someone higher up in the company than this guy.
I think I can safely say:
<snipped - rule 5>
Last edited by PureLegend on 19 Oct 2007 - 18:54
But truth be told, I don't care about the size it takes up in memory. Often in programming, you can use a little extra memory, and gain some speed, and given how dirt cheap memory is, I'd rather they take that route wherever possible.
How about this:
"If you don't want to watch the 8 minute video, I'll try to summarize by saying: "Windows 7 kernel in 25 megs on disk and under 40 megs of memory.""
Sure Microsoft has reduced the footprint of the Windows kernel, but it's still huge relatively speaking.
How about this:
"If you don't want to watch the 8 minute video, I'll try to summarize by saying: "Windows 7 kernel in 25 megs on disk and under 40 megs of memory.""
Sure Microsoft has reduced the footprint of the Windows kernel, but it's still huge relatively speaking.
That was more than just the kernel.
That was the kernel and all dependencies required to get a basic working command based OS.
How about this:
"If you don't want to watch the 8 minute video, I'll try to summarize by saying: "Windows 7 kernel in 25 megs on disk and under 40 megs of memory.""
Sure Microsoft has reduced the footprint of the Windows kernel, but it's still huge relatively speaking.
That was more than just the kernel.
That was the kernel and all dependencies required to get a basic working command based OS.
Indeed - people either didn't watch the video or listen - minwin is not a kernel on it's own.
How about this:
"If you don't want to watch the 8 minute video, I'll try to summarize by saying: "Windows 7 kernel in 25 megs on disk and under 40 megs of memory.""
Sure Microsoft has reduced the footprint of the Windows kernel, but it's still huge relatively speaking.
That was more than just the kernel.
That was the kernel and all dependencies required to get a basic working command based OS.
Indeed - people either didn't watch the video or listen - minwin is not a kernel on it's own.
So true, but since they had some numbers to go on, you know where it leads. <snipped - rule 5>
Last edited by PureLegend on 19 Oct 2007 - 18:57
Too slow download
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