Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) is being released to manufacturing on Monday 4 Feb and will start being available to customers in March, starting with Microsoft Volume Licensing customers.
Windows Server 2008 is also being released to manufacturing on the same date and will be available to new customers on March 1. Microsoft Volume Licensing customers with active Microsoft Software Assurance coverage or an Enterprise Agreement will be able to download the new Server software toward the end of February as part of the joint Microsoft SQL Server 2008 and Visual Studio 2008 Heroes Happen Here launch event
Contrary to reports SP1 will not be RTW (release to web) today.
View: Mike Nash Announcement - Windows Vista Blog
Windows Server 2008 is also being released to manufacturing on the same date and will be available to new customers on March 1. Microsoft Volume Licensing customers with active Microsoft Software Assurance coverage or an Enterprise Agreement will be able to download the new Server software toward the end of February as part of the joint Microsoft SQL Server 2008 and Visual Studio 2008 Heroes Happen Here launch event
Contrary to reports SP1 will not be RTW (release to web) today.
View: Mike Nash Announcement - Windows Vista Blog
This will give users a smoother install experience (instead of restarting 4 times to install SP1, they'll restart 3 times over the next month, then once to install SP1), and prevent issues caused by improperly installed drivers.
It seems like MS has gotten tired of Windows being blamed for issues caused by IHV's poor drivers, so they're doing everything they can to avoid it these days...
so RTM definatley has a point, it means the developers are finished with it, which means we will get it when they say and unless some major show stoppers are found there will be no more delays..
Take BenQ 5000 scanner and ART UPS driver as an example of such hardware, this problem happened to me with SP1 RC0
In mid-March, we will release Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Update (in English, French, Spanish, German and Japanese) and to the download center on microsoft.com. Customers who visit Windows Update can choose to install Service Pack 1. If Windows Update determines that the system has one of the drivers we know to be problematic, then Windows Update will not offer SP1. Since we know that some customers may want to update to SP1 anyhow, the download center will allow anyone who wants to install SP1 to do so.
In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded automatically. That said, any system that Windows Update determines has a driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1 automatically. As updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from getting Service Pack 1. The result is that more and more systems will automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have a good experience.
The remaining languages will RTM in April.
So mid-march it will be public and mid-april for all languages, great.
PS: The release will be slow.
they were betas and RC's not final products. do you understadn what they are for, basically they are used by MS to save time and money by getting the custoerm to do the testing.. which basically gives them a much greater test bed.. so of course they will still have issues, thats why they werent released as final..
Seriously, I like Vista, but there are some bugs that slipped through to RTM that should have been caught in the beta/RC testing phase. Most of the major ones have already been corrected (or at least improved) though the "fix packs", but its still apparent that Vista was rushed at the end to make sales and marketing happy...
What's the difference?
I don't think you understood my post. The title suggestion was a sarcastic comment designed to point out that the past year of Vista has been similar to a public beta because of the number and severity of bugs present in Vista RTM that normally would have been caught during a beta testing process, thus making Vista SP1 equivalent to what would normally be labeled as an "RTM" build...
RTW means released to the world, i.e. you can go and get it...
both versions are identical all it menas is that it is now FINAL
No sign of Vista SP1 on MSDN though yet....
Now if I go to Server 2008 I doubt I'd use up all the activations they gave me (15) but seems kind of silly that even Server 2008 Standard is on the VLK activation scheme.
Oh well, supposed it doesn't matter but if you want to do test installations it is kind of meh
MAK with 1500 activations
MAK with 1500 activations
1500? I want that many! I only have 15 haha.
MAK with 1500 activations
1500? I want that many! I only have 15 haha.
I suspect there is some kind of bug in there site causing the 1500 number to pop up. Ive got a 1500 key with a Technet subscription, not that i am going to complain about it.
I don't think that will work the same way before.
When SP1 Final is on Windows Updates, everyone should be able to get it.
When SP1 Beta / RC was on Windows Updates, it was simply "hidden" so most users wouldn't get it (unless they KNEW what they were doing).
I doubt Microsoft is going to "hide" SP1 Final like that.
MSDN or Torrent sites may be the first place to get SP1 Final.
I can see people wanting to buy Vista waiting but if you own Vista you should be able to download it now! Microsoft doesn't seem to be in a rush to release it.
They want to own the net by buying Yahoo but, it takes them a month or so to figure out how to put a SP on their update site. No wonder why their Net plans fail they run it like the post office.
You can never satisfy people. When Microsoft rushed Vista, people were unhappy. When Microsoft is taking its time to ensure smooth transition, people are unhappy.
Why dont u develop yr own OS for a change? or at least customize a linux build.
I'd expect a manual installer to be available on the download center long before it goes on Windows Update. Although the blog doesn't mention it, this has been a common practice with MS in the past.
Edit: Just re-read the post, and realized they do say it will be mid-march for download center release as well. I can understand the wait for WU (for the above reasons), but why hold off on a download center release? Typically only technology minded people would even think to check download center, so they'd know how to update drivers, etc...
Last edited by JonathanMarston on 04 Feb 2008 - 17:33
No, they're not putting on Windows Update for a month. The release notes are already on the Microsoft Download site, so I assume the standalone service pack will be soon.
No, they're not putting on Windows Update for a month. The release notes are already on the Microsoft Download site, so I assume the standalone service pack will be soon.
No, they're not putting on Windows Update for a month. The release notes are already on the Microsoft Download site, so I assume the standalone service pack will be soon.
It's odd that the release notes have a date of today, but still say "This Release Candidate" and "This document supports preliminary release of a software product...", isn't this SP1 final?
No, they're not putting on Windows Update for a month. The release notes are already on the Microsoft Download site, so I assume the standalone service pack will be soon.
It's odd that the release notes have a date of today, but still say "This Release Candidate" and "This document supports preliminary release of a software product...", isn't this SP1 final?
They must've updated the record but not the data.
yeah.. Microsoft has fix the problem for you so won't happen anymore.. so is not safe at point to upgrade to sp1 if you get my drift. so have to wait for "people on the web" to fix the issue.
yeah.. Microsoft has fix the problem for you so won't happen anymore.. so is not safe at point to upgrade to sp1 if you get my drift. so have to wait for "people on the web" to fix the issue.
Oh wow your euphemisms have me totally convinced you're not talking about ripping off software.
what? dude, take it easy. do u work for RIAA or something?
You do realize a lot of people that read this site are software developers or work for software companies. Maybe it's a tiny bit rude to talk about stealing from their employer. Especially when that employer is the company that cuts their bonus checks and gives them raises (little things that help them pay their mortgages and send their kids to good schools). It's a pity we live in a world where people think it's perfectly fine to steal from big companies.
what? dude, take it easy. do u work for RIAA or something?
The RIAA has nothing to do with the CRACK he's talking about
Anyway, I am totally against stealing from developers or using a "cracked" version of Windows; I am a student and still bought a retail Vista Ultimate.
I am sorry for misunderstanding mel00's post.
get a job and buy stuff
Last edited by The Guardian on 04 Feb 2008 - 19:15
The RC builds only work up to a certain point. Just because they share the same build number, that doesn't mean they're the same exact build. They're could be minor changes while keeping the same build number.
Last edited by NightmarE D on 04 Feb 2008 - 21:01
Stupid Microsoft. Most likely just some moron marketing manager trying to kiss ass with the OEMs. Wish I still had the code to do my ASCII middle finger, 'cause that's basically what they're doing to their users.
Last edited by digitalfreak on 04 Feb 2008 - 23:54
BTW, the fix for this is to rearm the WGA crap and re-authorize it again. Which may mean you need to call MS to get your Vista Update working correctly with your already licensed and validated Vista install, ahem. I've seen this with multiple MSDN and Technet installs, btw.
Instructions are http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-repli...cfm/875112.html
If this bug exists in the RTM upon widespread release, you can kiss Vista's shattered rep good-bye.
As for the server users, "Microsoft Windows Server 2008 x86 DVD-BetaInsiders" was just released.
See the above discussion for info on 6001.18000.08018-1840 - consensus seems to be that it is genuine SP1
Last edited by bmaher on 05 Feb 2008 - 10:45
I think this confirms it.
Actually it doesn't. Just because the AIK kit has a build of that number, doesnt mean the actual SP for Vista will.
Stop spreading FUD.
There is NO CONFIRMED build number at the moment, and SP1 has NOT been released officially on the web.
en_windows_server_2008_x86_dvd.iso - 1.75 GB (1,881,049,088 bytes) - 32bit
edit: just looked at your username. have a good idea.
This may or may not be the deal, all I know is:
SP1 RC 1 was:
6001.17052(x86) v. 668
SP1 RC1 Refresh was:
6001.17128(x86) v. 744 (currently have)
I wish they would release whatever the final version is soon than March/April
I spent the better part of 2 seperate days installing and uninstalling between the 2 RC's
LOL @ People who post assumptions as fact /fail.
soon will post MD5-Sum
soon will post MD5-Sum
Post your source.
There is no final RTM build available yet btw.
soon will post MD5-Sum
Post your source.
There is no final RTM build available yet btw.
I am downloading porno dvd rip right now, when im done il post the checksum.
MD5-Sum
998EAECC0AD1948561844551522BBDC1
windows6.0-kb936330-x86.exe
MD5-Sum
FCB3BB346D1C97A59AF92D66DCAD24B9
from TechNet/MSDN: en_windows_server_2008_datacenter_enterprise_standard_x64_dvd_X14-26714.iso size: 2665758720
and
from Connect: 6001.18000.080118-1840_amd64fre_Server_en-us-KRMSXFRE_EN_DVD.iso size: 2663258112
?
fare enough if im talking bo**ocks, but why put rtm in the build string, and seeing as winsrv2k8 has the same build string it should make sense.
or not...as some have said.
The people claiming 6001.18000.080118-1840 is not the RTM have not presented any evidence in support of their position other than "you don't know!!"
The people claiming 6001.18000.080118-1840 is not the RTM have not presented any evidence in support of their position other than "you don't know!!"
not forgetting that the new windows vista automated installation kit comes with the same build string, thats 3 things with the same build string, come on thats no coincidence!
or
http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/c...0-kb3aik_en.iso
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