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Mozilla says Firefox 3 ready for prime-time

Steven Parker   on 21 March 2008 - 12:20 · 46 comments & 30570 views

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A new version of Mozilla's popular Firefox Web browser is ready for download with improved security and memory use as the tiny company takes a stab at Microsoft Corp's dominant Internet Explorer.

The program's creators told Reuters on Thursday that the privately-held company's trial version of Firefox 3 browser is ready for the masses to use after months of development. Until now, the company has discouraged average Internet users from moving on from Firefox 2, which was launched in October 2006.

"In many ways it (Firefox 3) is much more stable than anything else out there," Mozilla Corp Vice President of Engineering Mike Schroepfer said in an interview. Key rivals to Firefox are market leader Microsoft's Internet Explorer and Apple Inc's Safari browser.

News Source: Reuters

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(4 replies) #1 buletov on 21 Mar 2008 - 12:23
Hm, nice, these memory optimizations and better rendering engine both rule, but new style full page zooming (instead of just text) and especially that new bloat drop down address menu both kinda suck (well full page zoom works nice but who wants to scroll left-right). Anyone knows how to toggle these options? And why change the scroll zooming direction from down for zoom-in to up for zoom-in?!
#1.1 Cryton on 21 Mar 2008 - 12:41
- Get rid of the full-page zooming with View > Zoom > Zoom Text Only.
- The size of the fonts used for the awesomebar is still being tweaked, but if you mean you actually dislike how the awesomebar works, then I guess you'll have to wait for an extension to implement the old behaviour. (Or there's oldbar extension to make it look like the old way, although it still searches the new way)
- Scroll zooming direction was changed to bring about parity with respect to what other apps do.

Last edited by Cryton on 21 Mar 2008 - 16:14
#1.2 Orlando Rays on 21 Mar 2008 - 12:41
I want to know this too. The bloated address menu sucks.
#1.3 RyanVM on 21 Mar 2008 - 14:12
I love the new location bar. It took some getting used to, but after that point, it pains me to go back to a browser that doesn't let me find websites just by remembering words in the title of the page. It reminds me of when I had to use IE6 after using Firefox and impulsively hitting Ctrl+T to open a new tab only for it to not work.

Anyway, the new location bar is still getting tweaked, and beta5's will hopefully make things a bit better compared to beta4 for those who are learning its power. I say give it a chance

And if you remain dead-set against it, there is an OldBar extension to return it to the old style.
#1.4 rpgfan on 21 Mar 2008 - 15:03
You don't like the AwesomeBar?

I like it. It is useful to me! I can remember bits and pieces of a thread's title and then add "neowin" to it and go back to a thread that I forgot about. It is a lot more convenient than searching through the history for the right thread!
(3 replies) #2 Julius Caro on 21 Mar 2008 - 12:25
Change the bloody default theme

#2.1 theyarecomingforyou on 21 Mar 2008 - 13:55
+1
#2.2 MountainSnake on 21 Mar 2008 - 20:47
+1
#2.3 Sub_Zero_Alchemist on 22 Mar 2008 - 02:47
(Julius Caro said @ #2)
Change the bloody default theme



There not, there going to be fine tuning the theme. it should be better before the final release is out and if you still don't like it change it to another theme.
(2 replies) #3 Angel Blue01 on 21 Mar 2008 - 12:40
Are we talking RCs or close to RTM?
#3.1 Sub_Zero_Alchemist on 21 Mar 2008 - 13:42
(Angel Blue01 said @ #3)
Are we talking RCs or close to RTM?



There's going to be one last beta, beta 5 after that on to RCs leading up to final.

Last edited by Sub_Zero_Alchemist on 21 Mar 2008 - 13:54
#3.2 OblivionStalker on 21 Mar 2008 - 16:16
(Sub_Zero_Alchemist said @ #3.1)
(Angel Blue01 said @ #3)
Are we talking RCs or close to RTM?



There's going to be one last beta, beta 5 after that on to RCs leading up to final.


There is already a nightly-build of beta 5. Search at google. I saw it few days ago.
(1 reply) #4 mule on 21 Mar 2008 - 12:42
Can't wait to use this.
FF changed the non-standard thinking of Microsoft with IE. IE8 is a proof for that.
Spaghetti-God bless FF.
#4.1 RAID 0 on 22 Mar 2008 - 09:57
I think you mean, "Flying Spaghetti Monster". Yeah.
(1 reply) #5 jrolson85 on 21 Mar 2008 - 13:02
So is it out then, where's the download?
#5.1 Sub_Zero_Alchemist on 21 Mar 2008 - 13:47


No it's not out yet, not in the final version. there's one last beta before RCs then final.
(3 replies) #6 Relativity_17 on 21 Mar 2008 - 13:28
They've done a decent job on the backend, improving performance and rendering speed.

They've done a ****ty job on the frontend with the broken interface that they're rushing to release.
#6.1 Sub_Zero_Alchemist on 21 Mar 2008 - 13:45
(Relativity_17 said @ #6)
They've done a decent job on the backend, improving performance and rendering speed.

They've done a ****ty job on the frontend with the broken interface that they're rushing to release.



You got to be kidding right decent job?? compare to FF2 i say they did a fantastic job.
#6.2 +Dakkaroth on 21 Mar 2008 - 15:19
Broken interface?
#6.3 X'tyfe on 21 Mar 2008 - 15:52
(Relativity_17 said @ #6)
They've done a decent job on the backend, improving performance and rendering speed.

They've done a ****ty job on the frontend with the broken interface that they're rushing to release.


SOMETHING needs to be buggy and broken, its the law of software
people cried it used to much memory? we can fix that, but first we need to compensate by breaking the interface
its the only way
(5 replies) #7 TechMedik on 21 Mar 2008 - 14:06
I have been using beta4 and I love it. Can't wait for the actual release.
#7.1 Davebo on 21 Mar 2008 - 14:10
Ditto!
#7.2 rpgfan on 21 Mar 2008 - 15:06
tritto (the di- prefix means "two", and the tri- prefix means "three", so it works, right? ...right?)

#7.3 Esvandiary on 21 Mar 2008 - 17:23
(rpgfan said @ #7.2)
tritto (the di- prefix means "two", and the tri- prefix means "three", so it works, right? ...right?)

... Quatto?
#7.4 lothodon on 21 Mar 2008 - 21:21
(Esvandiary said @ #7.3)
(rpgfan said @ #7.2)
tritto (the di- prefix means "two", and the tri- prefix means "three", so it works, right? ...right?)

... Quatto?


quaid, start the reactor!
#7.5 RAID 0 on 22 Mar 2008 - 09:58
(lothodon said @ #7.4)
(Esvandiary said @ #7.3)
(rpgfan said @ #7.2)
tritto (the di- prefix means "two", and the tri- prefix means "three", so it works, right? ...right?)

... Quatto?


quaid, start the reactor!


I got 5 kids to feed!
#8 +Garnett on 21 Mar 2008 - 15:40
Yeah ive been using the nightly, beta5 at the min, and i love it!

(4 replies) #9 koppit on 21 Mar 2008 - 16:27
I just downloaded a beta, and notice the difference already.
How is the interface broken? I like it all so far!
People are too stubborn and want to stay with what works - Mozilla has already proven that what works can be improved upon - so give it a chance and you'll see the improvements.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/fir...y/latest-trunk/
#9.1 Intelman on 21 Mar 2008 - 16:34
It's UGLY?
#9.2 koppit on 21 Mar 2008 - 16:37
(Intelman said @ #9.1)
It's UGLY?


Would you prefer the windows 9x look?
#9.3 TRC on 21 Mar 2008 - 20:12
Would you prefer the windows 9x look?


Yes.
#9.4 +Dakkaroth on 21 Mar 2008 - 22:48
Mine looks just fine in default.

(1 reply) #10 Scorbing on 21 Mar 2008 - 16:28
We'll see how it stands up to the speedy Safari for Windows and Opera.
#10.1 jtherrien on 21 Mar 2008 - 20:52
You can already see that it's faster. Try beta 4 or a nightly build and run SunSpider, for example.
#11 Justin- on 21 Mar 2008 - 16:55
Is it really? Since about a week ago, the nightlies have been crashing much more often than they used to. Maybe it's better though.
#12 nonick on 21 Mar 2008 - 17:02
FF3 effin rules, get used to the new address menu and you will see how amazingly good it is.
#13 UKer on 21 Mar 2008 - 17:56
Been using beta 4, and find it excellent. The new features make it worth the upgrade.
(1 reply) #14 VRam on 21 Mar 2008 - 20:58
Beta 4 works great for me, but the title of this article is very misleading. If its so damn ready, then why isn't it final?
#14.1 I HAS PICKLE on 21 Mar 2008 - 21:39
I believe the title to mean that the betas are without issue enough for average users.
(1 reply) #15 Litespeed on 21 Mar 2008 - 21:46
I'll switch when Google Browser Sync works with it.
#15.1 Ogden2k on 24 Mar 2008 - 17:13
Why not use Foxmarks?
#16 TC17 on 22 Mar 2008 - 06:26
So far I like Firefox 3. Firefox 2 is very buggy for me, and so far Firefox 3 is much more responsive moving around web pages.

Although I probably won't switch to it until ccleaner adds support for it.
#17 nunjabusiness on 22 Mar 2008 - 12:19
Love it love it love it
(1 reply) #18 Nxqd3051990 on 22 Mar 2008 - 14:04
I dont' find Menu Editor update for firefox 3 :p. I like the simple of safari menu context :p
#18.1 hardgiant on 23 Mar 2008 - 21:20
(Nxqd3051990 said @ #1
I dont' find Menu Editor update for firefox 3 :p. I like the simple of safari menu context :p


It works after turning off compatibility checker.

Here is my list:

Generated: Sun Mar 23 2008 16:17:38 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9b4) Gecko/2008030317 Firefox/3.0b4
Build ID: 2008030317

Enabled Extensions: [40]
- Adblock Filterset.G Updater 0.3.1.3: http://www.pierceive.com/
- Adblock Plus 0.7.5.3: http://adblockplus.org/
- Auto Copy 0.6.4: http://autocopy.mozdev.org
- Back to Top 5.0: http://customsoftwareconsult.com/extensions
- BBCodeXtra 0.2.5.6: http://bbcodextra.extenzilla.org
- Better Gmail 2 0.3.4: http://www.ginatrapani.org/workshop/firefox/bettergmail2/
- CacheViewer 0.4.5: http://tinybenki.sblo.jp/
- Cooliris Previews 2.6: http://www.google.com/search?q=Firefox%20Cooliris%20Previews
- CustomizeGoogle 0.71: http://www.customizegoogle.com/
- Dictionary Tooltip 1.1.2: http://www.rjonna.com/ext/dictionarytip.php
- Download Statusbar 0.9.6.1: http://downloadstatusbar.mozdev.org/
- DownloadHelper 3.0.3: http://www.downloadhelper.net
- DownThemAll! 1.0: http://downthemall.net/
- Drag de Go 0.2.5.1: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=440259
- FEBE 5.3.1: http://customsoftwareconsult.com/extensions
- FireFTP 0.97.1: http://fireftp.mozdev.org
- Fotofox 1.0.9.2: http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/add-ons/fotofox/firstrun/
- FreeShare Image Uploader 1.0.2: http://www.freeshare.us
- Gmail Space 0.5.92: http://www.getgspace.com/
- Grab and Drag 2.5.0.3: http://grabanddrag.mozdev.org/index.html
- Greasemonkey 0.7.20080121.0: http://www.greasespot.net/
- IE Tab 1.5.20080310: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/1419/
- Image Assistant 0.2.4: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/morei...sing&id=790
- ImageBot 3.5.4: http://pimpsofpain.com/imagebot.html
- Menu Editor 1.2.3.3: http://menueditor.mozdev.org/
- Minimap Sidebar Extension 0.2.3: http://www.google.com/search?q=Firefox%20M...bar%20Extension
- Mouse Gestures 1.5.2: http://www.mousegestures.org/
- MR Tech Local Install 5.3.2.6: http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/local_install/
- MultirowBookmarksToolbar 1.3: http://space.geocities.yahoo.co.jp/gl/alice0775
- Organize Search Engines 1.1.2: http://maltekraus.de/Firefox/search-tools/
- Organize Status Bar 0.5.2: http://yellow5.us/firefox/osb/
- Password Exporter 1.1: http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com
- Resizeable Textarea 0.1d: http://www.google.com/search?q=Firefox%20R...able%20Textarea
- Resurrect Pages 1.0.8: http://trac.arantius.com/wiki/Extensions/Resurrect
- ScrapBook 1.3.3.1: http://amb.vis.ne.jp/mozilla/scrapbook/
- Stylish 0.5.5: http://userstyles.org/stylish/
- Tab Mix Plus 0.3.6.1.080302: http://tmp.garyr.net
- UnPlug 1.6.06: http://unplug.mozdev.org/
- VideoDownloader 1.1.1: http://videodownloader.net/
- Wizz RSS News Reader 2.1.9.8: http://www.wizzrss.com/WizzRss.php

Disabled Extensions: [10]
- Fasterfox 2.0.0: http://fasterfox.mozdev.org/
- Firebug 1.05: http://www.getfirebug.com/
- Fireflix 0.0.6.1: http://kin.klever.net/fireflix/
- Image Zoom 0.3.1: http://imagezoom.yellowgorilla.net/
- McAfee SiteAdvisor 26.5: http://www.siteadvisor.com/
- PicLens 1.6.2.1605: http://www.piclens.com/
- Searchbar Autosizer 1.3.7: http://searchbarautosizer.mozdev.org
- SeoQuake 2.0.11: http://ff.seoquake.com/
- Text to Image 1.3.0: https://sourceforge.net/projects/txt2img/
- Web Developer 1.1.4: http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/

Total Extensions: 50

Installed Themes: [1]
- Firefox (default): http://www.mozilla.org/

Installed Plugins: (13)
- 2007 Microsoft Office system
- AOL Media Playback Plugin
- DivX Player Netscape Plugin
- DivX Web Player
- DivX® Content Upload Plugin
- IE Tab Plug-in
- Java™ Platform SE 6 U3
- JoostPlugin
- MetaStream 3 Plugin
- Microsoft® Windows Media Player Firefox Plugin
- Mozilla Default Plug-in
- Shockwave Flash
- Silverlight Plug-In

#19 j1232 on 24 Mar 2008 - 05:34
Yeah I dont think soooo first off I run ubuntu beta 4 there is no home button the addons that doo work are the adblock and google notebook. . . nothing else . .. I want my del.ico bookmarks to work but they arnt . . . .youtube closes the browser sometimes. . . . . and it runs a little weird as if there is a memory leak. But not sure . ..

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