As originally reported on the Neowin forums, Windows Live Messenger blocks sending YouTube links to other Windows IM users.

Speculation has grown throughout the web as to why this is. Monopolistic practices on Microsoft's part, or something else?

Today I discussed the issue with Rafael Rivera (maker of the Vista uxtheme patches on WithinWindows.com) who pointed out that a lot of sites are blocked, not just YouTube. For instance, deviantART, which doesn't compete with Microsoft in any way, is also blocked.

Our conclusion is that it's probably an unintentional, but stupid, mistake by Microsoft. But what do you think?



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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by voo on 11 May 2008 - 02:54
This has been driving me nuts, over and above my Broadband problems. Mediafire is also blocked from MSN.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by ozgeek on 11 May 2008 - 02:55
How is this news? Why not just open a thread where people can post "what they think?"
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by zeta_immersion on 11 May 2008 - 02:59
burn him/it on a stick
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by Rudy on 11 May 2008 - 03:25
works fine here ??? I just sent some test to my gf and it works fine
Quote this comment #4.1 Posted by Cpugeni Ω on 11 May 2008 - 10:11
Same here!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by EduardValencia on 11 May 2008 - 03:30
This time i'm with all MS-haters

burp

Slap MS in the face!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by majortom1981 on 11 May 2008 - 03:31
Prob just a we always get sued so lets not get sued feature lol.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by Marshalus on 11 May 2008 - 03:54
I've never had problems sending stuff???
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by jonathan740 on 11 May 2008 - 04:06
cant wait to i be fix
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by seamer on 11 May 2008 - 04:31
Probably a kneejerk reaction to sending unverified urls to people. You know, an attempt to block malware tricking friends.

Don't agree with it as such, but it seems logical.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by SimNet on 11 May 2008 - 04:43
Use tinyurl to mask links!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by chris4 on 11 May 2008 - 05:03
Deviantart is fine for me.

YouTube has been fixed now.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by 0sm3l on 11 May 2008 - 05:30
i remember friends sending me youtube links... wierd
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by Caneo on 11 May 2008 - 05:30
I never experienced this problem, I am still able to send youtube links.

Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by WhoTheF on 11 May 2008 - 05:37
I have never had youtube links problem from what I remember, but if this is something recent then thats odd.

I think MS is losing it. If they are going to start blocking stuff, they should know there are better alternatives out there - it's not just them.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by dhavalhirdhav on 11 May 2008 - 05:41
I nvr got this kind of problem.. I am always able to send and receive links...
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by x9_ on 11 May 2008 - 05:50
Sounds to me like Mr. Gates got rickrolled one too many times.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #17 Posted by - Kaboose - on 11 May 2008 - 07:05
its MS's service, and people have a choice regarding its use, so stop complaining
Quote this comment #17.1 Posted by winmoose on 11 May 2008 - 10:45
So consumers should not compain?

Maybe in china.
Quote this comment #17.2 Posted by GEIST on 11 May 2008 - 11:27
Jawohl, mein Führer! \o
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #18 Posted by williamhook on 11 May 2008 - 07:27
Tried it last night after I saw it on Digg, and it worked fine.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #19 Posted by ajua on 11 May 2008 - 07:36
YouTube, Deviantart and others sites are working inside wlm when sending links in messages...

Maybe there is some kind of system error or maybe a phishing outbreak that uses those sites...

However, it is funny that many people think that the world is ending because of this. I think we should wait and see how this evolves (i do believe some users are suffering this, but i have yet to hear it from someone i know).
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #20 Posted by yottabytewizard on 11 May 2008 - 07:44
.sytes.net (One of the no-ip domains) is also blocked....

This whole thing is just stupid.... THIS IS MADNESS!
Quote this comment #20.1 Posted by treemonster on 11 May 2008 - 08:42
madness? no this is MICROSOFT!
Quote this comment #20.2 Posted by sibot on 11 May 2008 - 10:48
(treemonster said @ #20.1)
madness? no this is MICROSOFT!


Microsoft? No this is NEOWIN!
Quote this comment #20.3 Posted by kezzzs on 11 May 2008 - 12:25
SPARTA!
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #21 Posted by Jonathan Yaniv on 11 May 2008 - 09:03
www.teamviewer.com is blocked when you send that message through Messenger, it bounces back.
Quote this comment #21.1 Posted by sibot on 11 May 2008 - 10:56
Its working here =)
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #22 Posted by BlackTigerAP on 11 May 2008 - 09:28
Nobody blocks anything!
Check your ISP and/or Firewall!
Quote this comment #22.1 Posted by Cpugeni Ω on 11 May 2008 - 10:13
I agree
Quote this comment #22.2 Posted by mcloum on 11 May 2008 - 22:34
(BlackTigerAP said @ #22)
Nobody blocks anything!
Check your ISP and/or Firewall!


Eat your words!
http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/blog/...#33;35340.entry
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #23 Posted by Chipshop on 11 May 2008 - 10:49
No blocking of anything here...
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #24 Posted by sibot on 11 May 2008 - 10:55
It does happen sometimes, that links bounce back, and a "Message Not Delivered" message comes up. But its nothing permanent, after sometime it starts to work again. No problems here till now. MSN service is getting bad day by day. Sometimes my messages won't get across completely, and no undelivered status messages either.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #25 Posted by n_K on 11 May 2008 - 11:04
Im thinking .pif
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #26 Posted by GEIST on 11 May 2008 - 11:29
Linking to dA and YT has always worked for me on MSN/WLM.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #27 Posted by daPhoenix on 11 May 2008 - 11:49
Thye're a private company - they can censor anything they want and they don't owe you any explanation.

--

Yes, I just saved someone the time typing that out ;p
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #28 Posted by TcKrockZ on 11 May 2008 - 11:50
I dint chk youtube but i tried to send a evilshare n zshare link it bounced back
Quote this comment #28.1 Posted by C_Guy on 12 May 2008 - 15:18
Kids say the darndest things!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #29 Posted by The Cub on 11 May 2008 - 12:37
YouTube links work fine here!

WLM BETA 9.0.1407.1107
UK
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #30 Posted by RDExpress on 11 May 2008 - 13:27
Read this on Mess.be yesterday, tried youtube.co.uk worked fine; youtube.com didn't work for me.

All fixed now though.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #31 Posted by +Lexcyn on 11 May 2008 - 14:30
This was never an issue for me.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #32 Posted by BlackTigerAP on 11 May 2008 - 14:48
Actually...
All this is FAKE! Original "youtube link" links to stupid advertisements! So...
"View" counter for that "link" was... 1500000 and counting!
People! You are fools!
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #33 Posted by aeron on 11 May 2008 - 15:52
Attention: Full list of blocked phrases can be found here:
http://www.allocinit.net/blog/2007/08/07/t...blocked-by-msn/
Quote this comment #33.1 Posted by necrosis on 11 May 2008 - 16:27
That list is nowhere near complete.


Its not a full list.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #34 Posted by Jonathan Yaniv on 11 May 2008 - 17:11
Removed

Last edited by shockz on 12 May 2008 - 04:04
Quote this comment #34.1 Posted by Doli on 11 May 2008 - 19:20
Lay off the font size.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #35 Posted by Chrispy192 on 11 May 2008 - 17:48
This is why I hate microsoft so much. They charge an arm and a leg for all its stuff Vista is just an example. Then it goes and does something stupid like this, tbh if they carry on with this they will find themselves with less customers in general and definalty a lot less MSN users if they are gonna play these stupid games.
Quote this comment #35.1 Posted by XerXis on 11 May 2008 - 20:50
you're right, i have to pay a lot to use the messenger service
Quote this comment #35.2 Posted by simon360 on 12 May 2008 - 00:14
You pay nothing, but they make sometyhing off of the ads in the program. If people stop using it, they lose money. Therefore, if they lose customers who think they're getting a free service, then Microsoft loses money.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #36 Posted by niktheguru on 11 May 2008 - 19:23
It was just a mistake by microsoft, see the explanation here:

http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/blog/...#33;35340.entry
(5 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #37 Posted by Gabe3 on 11 May 2008 - 21:28
People still use MSN messenger? why??? I've been using Pidgin AKA GAIM for years.
Quote this comment #37.1 Posted by GEIST on 11 May 2008 - 22:40
I guess a lot of people just forgot to follow you, oh grand master.
Quote this comment #37.2 Posted by Darran on 11 May 2008 - 23:22
Doesn't matter what client you use, Microsoft still control the network, and can filter your messages.

Quote this comment #37.3 Posted by Joshie on 12 May 2008 - 00:46
Uh, isn't MS's messenger like number one globally in terms of userbase?
Quote this comment #37.4 Posted by chooser on 12 May 2008 - 02:52
(GEIST said @ #37.1)
I guess a lot of people just forgot to follow you, oh grand master.


lol. i love this site.
Quote this comment #37.5 Posted by Synthetic on 12 May 2008 - 03:12
(chooser said @ #37.4)
(GEIST said @ #37.1)
I guess a lot of people just forgot to follow you, oh grand master.


lol. i love this site.
I know right, lol!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #38 Posted by BigBoy on 12 May 2008 - 02:31
As others - I am sending at least one Youtube link a day to a friend who is also on Live Messenger... AND I have sent Devianart links too. Something is on crack but it might not be the software?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #39 Posted by BilliShere on 12 May 2008 - 03:08
hmmm... i switched to using amsn...
works jsut as good. looks like crap. but it works good.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #40 Posted by magik on 12 May 2008 - 03:25
LOL Who seriously uses the official MSN Messenger client? Come on now. You deserve to get your links blocked
Quote this comment #40.1 Posted by Long on 12 May 2008 - 04:52
If you bothered to read the comment, you'd know that this is a server-end block which affects any client that's connecting to the Live Messenger network including Pidgin, GAIM, Digsby and Trillian.
Quote this comment #40.2 Posted by C_Guy on 12 May 2008 - 15:15
Ummm... The real question is, who has yet to switch to MSN Messenger yet? Get with the times.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #41 Posted by Slugsie on 12 May 2008 - 08:19
I sent a YouTube link a couple of days ago, no problem.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #42 Posted by C_Guy on 12 May 2008 - 15:14
"...Monopolistic practices on Microsoft's part...deviantART, which doesn't compete with Microsoft in any way, is also blocked...Our conclusion is that it's probably an unintentional, but stupid mistake..."

So apparently, "monopoly" means blocking websites that don't compete with Microsoft in ANY way. No wonder some people still mistake Microsoft for a monopoly.
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