Video claims to demo breathtaking Windows 7 features
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#1 Posted by +GreyWolfSC on 13 May 2008 - 21:47
- Which features are the breathtaking ones?
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#2 Posted by IamZed on 13 May 2008 - 21:56
- They added xplorer2, Daemon Tools, and Expression Lite! Weeeeeeeeee.........
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#3 Posted by ChrisMZSA80 on 13 May 2008 - 21:56
- That's quite a list of features that we've never seen / heard of in Windows.
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#4 Posted by LaXu on 13 May 2008 - 21:58
- If it isn't fake, I welcome those changes with open arms. The Explorer file browser (and OSX Finder for that matter) has always been a huge piece of **** compared to something like Directory Opus. Having dual panes is extremely useful. I also like the idea of editable, even custom keyboard shortcuts. It's one of those "long overdue" things. Personally I wouldn't mind if they really went to town with the Explorer interface.
What Windows really needs though is a new program installation paradigm. The "Next-next-next-next-next-next-next-finish" deal is just annoying and dated. Just steal the OSX "mount image, drag icon to Applications" system already! Have some sort of virtual machine or wrapper for the old (current) stuff that vomits files all over the hard drive and registry as a backwards compatibility method.
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#5 Posted by BoDEAN on 13 May 2008 - 22:04
- Not impressed. With a price tag over 200 bucks, this really isn't too impressive.
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#6 Posted by +warwagon on 13 May 2008 - 22:05
- Nice to know, yes. Breathtaking, uh NO! Breathtaking would be like hearing that they scratched the registry.
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#6.1 Posted by eck0 on 13 May 2008 - 22:08
- (warwagon said @ #6)Nice to know, yes. Breathtaking, uh NO! Breathtaking would be like hearing that they scratched the registry.
Lol that would be breath taking. Like when compiz fusion was introduced - that was breath taking. -
#6.2 Posted by virtorio on 13 May 2008 - 22:19
- Removing the registry is more like asphyxiation. If they're going to do that they'll need to start again and have no support for backwards compatibility (outside of virtualization).
And what problems has the registry caused since Windows 2000 anyway? Especially now Microsoft push users into not running admin accounts. It’s just a database used to store settings, if they're not being stored there that means they'll have to be stored in config files, which create a whole lot of new problems. -
#6.3 Posted by
neufuse on 13 May 2008 - 22:57
- (warwagon said @ #6)Nice to know, yes. Breathtaking, uh NO! Breathtaking would be like hearing that they scratched the registry.
There is nothing wrong with the registry... it's just a database... XML config files and INI files are not multi-user and have concurrency locking issues which the registry fixes... -
#6.4 Posted by kylejn on 13 May 2008 - 23:02
- (virtorio said @ #6.2)Removing the registry is more like asphyxiation. If they're going to do that they'll need to start again and have no support for backwards compatibility (outside of virtualization).
Something they should have done with Vista. Completely rewrite the operating system from the ground up. -
#6.5 Posted by virtorio on 13 May 2008 - 23:15
- (kylejn said @ #6.4)(virtorio said @ #6.2)Removing the registry is more like asphyxiation. If they're going to do that they'll need to start again and have no support for backwards compatibility (outside of virtualization).
Something they should have done with Vista. Completely rewrite the operating system from the ground up.
If they did that it most likely wouldn't be available now, or in the foreseeable future, nor would it run much (or any) of the software currently available for it, at the same quality it currently does - which is the main reason Windows has the stronghold that it does.
You can’t just re-write an operating system in two years, certainty not properly, and not one that does all the things people expect Windows to. So get real. -
#6.6 Posted by z0phi3l on 13 May 2008 - 23:39
- (virtorio said @ #6.2)Removing the registry is more like asphyxiation. If they're going to do that they'll need to start again and have no support for backwards compatibility (outside of virtualization).
And what problems has the registry caused since Windows 2000 anyway? Especially now Microsoft push users into not running admin accounts. It’s just a database used to store settings, if they're not being stored there that means they'll have to be stored in config files, which create a whole lot of new problems.
The registry IS the main problem with Windows, and the whole point originally of the scrapped new file system, by having things in a database structure with tables instead of a registry, it will speed things up while at the same time make installing/uninstalling programs easier. The registry has been considered a mess since it's inception, and needing replaced a long time ago. -
#6.7 Posted by Joe USer on 13 May 2008 - 23:44
- (virtorio said @ #6.2)Removing the registry is more like asphyxiation. If they're going to do that they'll need to start again and have no support for backwards compatibility (outside of virtualization).
I think virtualization is the way to go. You can make major OS code changes and still maintain compatibility with XP, simply because you're actually running XP. -
#6.8 Posted by +Brandon Live on 14 May 2008 - 02:09
- (z0phi3l said @ #6.6)The registry IS the main problem with Windows, and the whole point originally of the scrapped new file system, by having things in a database structure with tables instead of a registry, it will speed things up while at the same time make installing/uninstalling programs easier. The registry has been considered a mess since it's inception, and needing replaced a long time ago.
WinFS wasn't a filesystem, and wasn't meant to replace the registry.
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#6.9 Posted by Hak Foo on 14 May 2008 - 02:15
- (virtorio said @ #6.2)Removing the registry is more like asphyxiation. If they're going to do that they'll need to start again and have no support for backwards compatibility (outside of virtualization).
And what problems has the registry caused since Windows 2000 anyway? Especially now Microsoft push users into not running admin accounts. It’s just a database used to store settings, if they're not being stored there that means they'll have to be stored in config files, which create a whole lot of new problems.
The problem with the registry IMO is that it tends to make configuration very difficult to take with you.
If configuration data is stored in a file, I can easily copy that file and just that file, if I want to set up the program the same way on a new PC/after a clean install/whatever.
There's no uniform way to retrieve the registry units associated with a given program.
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#7 Posted by TechMedik on 13 May 2008 - 22:15
- Cool....I get mentioned on the front page. Now if only half these things actually make it into w7. Some of these are actually useful.
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#8 Posted by scaramonga on 13 May 2008 - 22:17
- The WOW ends now!
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#9 Posted by TheNay on 13 May 2008 - 22:19
- Can download 3rd party apps to do that, but goos to see it'll be in windows by default, hopefully they won't remove things like they did with Vista...
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#10 Posted by krustylicious on 13 May 2008 - 22:21
- Baring the explorer changes, win 7 looks like a giant wizard driven os.
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#11 Posted by Binary on 13 May 2008 - 22:24
- What can anything shown here do that any modern operating system can't do with a few free 3rd party programs?
By comparison, Leopard is still killing even Windows 7. -
#11.1 Posted by MulletRobZ on 13 May 2008 - 22:47
- And if so, then that could only mean Mac OS X 10.6 (whatever codename they use) will be even more ahead ... LOL!
Then again, we'll just have to wait and see until Windows 7 hits at least Beta 2 (or even RC1) before we can make a reasonable judgement. -
#11.2 Posted by Divide Overflow on 13 May 2008 - 23:51
- By what comparison exactly? Your opinion, and that of every other Mac zealot?
The numbers speak for themselves.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=10
I don't think "killing" correctly describes the effect MacOS is having on the Vista market share. Vista is beating OS X on both PowerPC and MacIntel platforms, combined. I'm not a big fan of Microsoft or Windows, but be realistic about the success of each platform. There never will be a mass exodus of users. . any change will take place gradually over a long period of time, possibly as long as 10 or 20 years. We could be in the middle of that right now, only time will tell. I guess it's not all bad though. . while MacOS may be number three behind Vista and XP, at least MacOS is doing better these days than every other version of Windows. Unfortunately there are still more geriatric corporate desktops running NT4 than there are PCs running my OS of choice.
I can say this though, so long as Apple runs any advertisements that insult their competition (and by extension that platform's users), I'll be passing on their shiny product. Even if I don't run Windows, the advertisement jabs at people running machines without a fruit on the side of the box.
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#12 Posted by +bmdixon on 13 May 2008 - 22:41
- As most people have already said, this stuff can be done with 3rd party tools. But if they're built into the O/S they should be less resource hungry and work better. No more games not installing because you have Daemon Tools installed for example...
Nothing breathtaking here though...
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#13 Posted by ]EGG[ on 13 May 2008 - 22:45
- Anyone else totally unimpressed by the video ?
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#13.1 Posted by +Brandon Live on 14 May 2008 - 02:12
- EGG[ said,#13]Anyone else totally unimpressed by the video ?
I'm just amazed that anyone actually *is* impressed by it. I guess people don't have much faith in us these days?
I mean seriously... do some of you actually want SmartFTP to replace Explorer? lol
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#15 Posted by Harper on 13 May 2008 - 23:20
- I used to be a hardcore Windows fan, but, after the Vista debacle I decided to make the move to Mac. All I can say is that it was the best technological decision I've made. I've been constantly let down by Windows and it's BSOD, hanging programs, frozen screens, incompatibilities, driver issues, etc. I'm not trying to hate, but, after looking at this short video, I am far from impressed. Mind you, I do understand that it will be distinctly different looking when all is said and done, but I can't but feel like MS is still on the same destructable path as always in regards to the OS wars. Mac OS X, on the other hand, while not perfect, is much more stable, easily usable, programs work, no BSOD's, etc. I hope that MS gets it together soon. I like that there is still competition between the two platforms. We all win.........
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#15.3 Posted by mrp04 on 14 May 2008 - 00:14
- Is that a joke?
There is no way you were a "hardcore Windows fan" if you switched due to the Vista "debacle".
There is NO Vista debacle there WAS NO Vista debacle. It's just a bunch of people expecting a new OS to run on outdated computers. I bet you are very happy with a NEW Mac that runs OS X fast. Guess what, a NEW PC would run Vista fast, too (as long as you make sure you dont get crapware from an OEM). -
#15.4 Posted by Divide Overflow on 14 May 2008 - 00:42
- (mrp04 said @ #15.3)Is that a joke?
There is no way you were a "hardcore Windows fan" if you switched due to the Vista "debacle".
There is NO Vista debacle there WAS NO Vista debacle. It's just a bunch of people expecting a new OS to run on outdated computers. I bet you are very happy with a NEW Mac that runs OS X fast. Guess what, a NEW PC would run Vista fast, too (as long as you make sure you dont get crapware from an OEM).
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#15.5 Posted by Shiranui on 14 May 2008 - 02:43
- (mrp04 said @ #15.3)Is that a joke?
There is no way you were a "hardcore Windows fan" if you switched due to the Vista "debacle".
There is NO Vista debacle there WAS NO Vista debacle. It's just a bunch of people expecting a new OS to run on outdated computers. I bet you are very happy with a NEW Mac that runs OS X fast. Guess what, a NEW PC would run Vista fast, too (as long as you make sure you dont get crapware from an OEM).
Well said. I could never go back to Xp now I have Vista. -
#15.6 Posted by I am Not PCyr on 14 May 2008 - 08:49
- (Shiranui said @ #15.5)(mrp04 said @ #15.3)Is that a joke?
There is no way you were a "hardcore Windows fan" if you switched due to the Vista "debacle".
There is NO Vista debacle there WAS NO Vista debacle. It's just a bunch of people expecting a new OS to run on outdated computers. I bet you are very happy with a NEW Mac that runs OS X fast. Guess what, a NEW PC would run Vista fast, too (as long as you make sure you dont get crapware from an OEM).
Well said. I could never go back to Xp now I have Vista.
BS
my pc runs vista just fine but why would i drive a DRM Bloat machine
when i can run a good os instead ?
its pretty much like trading in a Porsche for a VW Bug with a flashier paint job and spiffy rims and tinted windows etc
You Vista fanboys will forever get owned in every debate for one reason.
Performance.
if that has no value to you then by all means drive your bloat wagon
and leave the rest of us intelligent computer users alone kthxbye
google the word overclock.. 14 and a half million hits
look it up and see what it means and then come and tell me that performance doesnt matter
this whole vista vs xp debate is retarded how can a bloated pos "Symantec Norton Vista" be better when the facts PROVE otherwise
It must be nice to live in a illusionary world where the facts / reality can be warped to suit your needs as you see fit
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#15.7 Posted by LaXu on 14 May 2008 - 12:00
- (I am Not PCyr said @ #15.6)(Shiranui said @ #15.5)(mrp04 said @ #15.3)Is that a joke?
There is no way you were a "hardcore Windows fan" if you switched due to the Vista "debacle".
There is NO Vista debacle there WAS NO Vista debacle. It's just a bunch of people expecting a new OS to run on outdated computers. I bet you are very happy with a NEW Mac that runs OS X fast. Guess what, a NEW PC would run Vista fast, too (as long as you make sure you dont get crapware from an OEM).
Well said. I could never go back to Xp now I have Vista.
my pc runs vista just fine but why would i drive a DRM Bloat machine
when i can run a good os instead ?
Performance.
google the word overclock.. 14 and a half million hits
look it up and see what it means and then come and tell me that performance doesnt matter
this whole vista vs xp debate is retarded how can a bloated pos "Symantec Norton Vista" be better when the facts PROVE otherwise
It must be nice to live in a illusionary world where the facts / reality can be warped to suit your needs as you see fit
I guess we have reached the age when Overclocking / Benchmarking has DIED
I have to wonder if it's actually you living in the alternate reality. I run Vista and haven't run into any DRM related problems. My computer is also overclocked from 2.13 GHz to 3.2 GHz, all running fast, stable and smooth on Vista SP1. On the same machine I've also got OSX Leopard installed and guess what? Both Vista and OSX run equally well. Both have their pluses and minuses. In the end they're just operating systems and its up to you to decide which one you like better. I like both.
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#16 Posted by daniel_rh on 13 May 2008 - 23:36
- Breathtaking in the point of view of usability and flexibility, If it is real I like it!
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#17 Posted by +Kushan on 13 May 2008 - 23:41
- Christ, we've barely hit Milestone 2 and people are already bitching...
Seriously guys, what DO you want? Vista was all eye candy and you hated that, now this looks like Microsoft is actually adding in stuff that'll genuinely increase productivity (Dual pane Explorer? Hell yes!) and it's still not good enough?
Ok, maybe "breathtaking" isn't the right description, but I've yet to see an OS that looks "breathtaking" and didn't **** all over productivity at the same time.
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#17.1 Posted by Fourjays on 14 May 2008 - 08:04
- (Kushan said @ #17)Christ, we've barely hit Milestone 2 and people are already bitching...
Seriously guys, what DO you want? Vista was all eye candy and you hated that, now this looks like Microsoft is actually adding in stuff that'll genuinely increase productivity (Dual pane Explorer? Hell yes!) and it's still not good enough?
Ok, maybe "breathtaking" isn't the right description, but I've yet to see an OS that looks "breathtaking" and didn't **** all over productivity at the same time.
If these things make to the final version, I'll be getting it. These are things I can actually find a use for (compared to the new features in Vista).
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#19 Posted by Mike Frett on 14 May 2008 - 00:53
- I'm sorry, but there is absolutely nothing there that would cause me to upgrade. On a side note, dude in that video has a darn fast machine or something. Or maybe mines just aged.
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#20 Posted by Airlink on 14 May 2008 - 01:00
- The new (and I use that term loosely) "features" are not exactly earth-shaking, are they?
In fact they're ALL available right now on XP as freeware apps. Excuse me while I don't care.
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#21 Posted by Intelman on 14 May 2008 - 01:07
- Channel9 stated it was fake.
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=403842
Dan from Microsoft confirmed. They could be lying, but then we could catch their lie later if it turns out to be true.
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#22 Posted by offroadaaron on 14 May 2008 - 01:32
- hmmm even if it is fake im expecting very little from Windows 7 and Hoping for a lot. I find that Microsoft are very out of touch with there users these days. Multitasking is a massive aspect i think windows needs to work on. I particularly like expose for Mac (and whatever it is on fusion) I don't particularly want Aero its not doing anything special for me not a reason i would want Vista as my OS. If it wasn't for the game compatibility on Windows I wouldn't even run it (and i've always been a Windows person). Unix Systems these days are soo much easier to multitask. I REALLY hope MS fix this with windows!!! PLEASE!
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#23 Posted by +Black.Mac on 14 May 2008 - 03:17
- The tabs dont even look like Microsoft styled tabs...looks like SmartFTP
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#24 Posted by iron2000 on 14 May 2008 - 03:25
- Real or not, those features are not exciting me.
Nothing beats the time where XP came out while I was still on a Win95 PC.
That time XP really excited me, I prayed to get it
Maybe thats because I'm pretty much a kid at that time.
The first time I'm on Vista, I'm totally lost.
Its like they splited up the usual display properties and throw them around.
Many things are split up and relocated, had a hard time configuring the system for my uncle.
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#25 Posted by billyea on 14 May 2008 - 04:22
- What I'm really wondering is what's the name of that music?
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#26 Posted by excalpius on 14 May 2008 - 04:28
- Um, I love me my Vista but that was only breath taking if your English is bad and you mean YAWNING...
Or unless it was Jobs saying all these new features were "breath taking" ™ and then LTD would agree.
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#27 Posted by toadeater on 14 May 2008 - 04:34
- I sincerely hope that's not Windows 7. Who keeps adding these craplets to Windows? An improved file explorer would be ok, but this other crap is a complete waste of space, resources, and is generally in poor taste.
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#28 Posted by mattrobs on 14 May 2008 - 04:34
- this is completely normal because Microsoft begins work on the user interface last...
Haven't learnt a thing, have they?
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#28.1 Posted by LTD on 14 May 2008 - 05:34
- (mattrobs said @ #1)this is completely normal because Microsoft begins work on the user interface last...
Haven't learnt a thing, have they?
(Edit: Read #21.)
Quite a telling statement, actually.
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#31 Posted by BlackTigerAP on 14 May 2008 - 06:01
- It's just a compilation of "explorer replacements" such as Explorer2, CubeExplorer etc.
People! Don't be stupid! Please!
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#32 Posted by PureLegend on 14 May 2008 - 06:39
- Nobody seems to be worried about that FrontPage replacement. Seriously, what's that logo in the corner? Like, 4 blobs?
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#34 Posted by nothin2seehere on 14 May 2008 - 07:25
- I voted real, because only MS could add those "features" to an OS and claim they're "breathtaking". Besides, who the hell needs a website and blog designing tool in the OS?
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#34.1 Posted by +Brandon Live on 14 May 2008 - 15:34
- It isn't real, apparently it's some collection of Vista add-ons from a third-party that's in beta right now.
Believe me, know one here thought that video was "breathtaking"
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#35 Posted by dhavalhirdhav on 14 May 2008 - 08:38
- *yawn*
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#36 Posted by winmoose on 14 May 2008 - 09:00
- WINDOWS 7 SUCKS, I'M STICKING WITH GOOD OLD RELIABLE VISTA.
That aside, I do hope they make it faster and smaller, and preferably 64bit only, having many versions in 32/64bit oem/retail N/KN etc. does make for confusion.
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#37 Posted by randomnut on 14 May 2008 - 09:21
- Those features are hardly breathtaking. I'd call it progress. The amount of money MS software costs and the time it takes them to finally get it out the door it ought to have a lot of more advanced features.
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#38 Posted by scaramonga on 14 May 2008 - 12:42
- It could be WinME 3? Well, we already have 1 & 2.
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#40 Posted by barteh on 14 May 2008 - 14:32
- i like the way the video is sped up to give the impression of a fast OS
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#41 Posted by TC17 on 15 May 2008 - 01:08
- Whats the point of even posting this crap? It won't be out for years as it is.
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#42 Posted by TC17 on 15 May 2008 - 01:09
- Vista works great, except there are too many fools who actually believe all the negative posts they read.
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#43 Posted by Oxuyoska on 16 May 2008 - 03:40
- Disk Usage Analyzer?
How the **** am I supposed to hide porn now?
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#44 Posted by thealexweb on 16 May 2008 - 22:00
- Sources from inside Microsoft have confirmed that this is fake.
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#45 Posted by ulrich73 on 17 May 2008 - 01:35
- See this German article solving the mystery of the Windows 7 video:
http://www.WinFuture.de/news,39496.html
Thanks TechMedik for posting this in our forums, Ars Technica have posted what could be a promo video for Windows 7. Read on ...
Many users are interested in whether or not Windows 7 will be an improvement in terms of performance, but that verdict will only be out once benchmark tests are performed on the RTM build. That will be a while. Other users have their eyes set on what features Windows 7 will offer over Windows Vista. Will Microsoft's next operating system add something that truly makes the user exclaim "wow!" or make customers rush to stores the second it hits the shelves?
The current internal builds look like Windows Vista, and this is completely normal because Microsoft begins work on the user interface last. Nevertheless, there have been minor features added already (none of which are set in stone of course). Out of everything we've seen in these early builds, there really hasn't been anything to write home about yet, until now.