Asus Eee - in Desktop form.
Posted by Kevin Horrocks on 20 June 2008 - 12:12 · 50 comments & 18799 views
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#1 Posted by +accesser on 20 Jun 2008 - 12:16
- Yeah they look cool I read about them in the latest Asus World book that I have.
At the time of print they had unconfirmed next to the bit that said it will ship with windows.
I hope its nice and cool and quiet it would make a great downloading machine to leave on all the time
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#2 Posted by +Lexcyn on 20 Jun 2008 - 12:27
- Awesome. I will definately be picking this up as a secondary desktop.
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#3 Posted by garyt on 20 Jun 2008 - 12:28
- Heh, interesting. The original (portable) EEEs first shipped with just Linux, then later on ASUS started shipping Windows XP models.
Now the desktop EEEs will come preloaded with Windows XP at launch, and only later will they start shipping with Linux. The initial OS selection has reversed.
Am I reading into this too much? -
#3.1 Posted by MightyJordan on 20 Jun 2008 - 12:35
- (garyt said @ #3)Heh, interesting. The original (portable) EEEs first shipped with just Linux, then later on ASUS started shipping Windows XP models.
Now the desktop EEEs will come preloaded with Windows XP at launch, and only later will they start shipping with Linux. The initial OS selection has reversed.
Am I reading into this too much?
Well, Windows XP is the most common OS around, so regular PC users won't want to switch to a different OS, as they'll just get very confused.
Back to the Eee Box. Personally, I think it's going to flop. It looks good, but for the expected price (which is £250), you're not getting enough. Anyone could build their own dual-core PC with 2GB of RAM, a fair sized hard drive, and a decent graphics card for that price.
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#3.2 Posted by garyt on 20 Jun 2008 - 12:40
- (MightyJordan said @ #3.1)Well, Windows XP is the most common OS around, so regular PC users won't want to switch to a different OS, as they'll just get very confused.
Well that's the thing, it seems to be OK for the regular EEE. Maybe Linux just sees more success on UMPCs rather than desktops then?
All I know is that the zealots are gonna be ****ed about this one. -
#3.3 Posted by
markjensen on 20 Jun 2008 - 12:55
- It is just that customers generally want to see "Windows" on the box. Many typical home users don't even know what this "Linux" thing is, so saying it runs Windows is a sell point, even if it offers nothing special for web browsing and emailing pictures of grandkids.
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#3.4 Posted by kaiwai on 20 Jun 2008 - 13:04
- (MightyJordan said @ #3.1)(garyt said @ #3)Heh, interesting. The original (portable) EEEs first shipped with just Linux, then later on ASUS started shipping Windows XP models.
Now the desktop EEEs will come preloaded with Windows XP at launch, and only later will they start shipping with Linux. The initial OS selection has reversed.
Am I reading into this too much?
Well, Windows XP is the most common OS around, so regular PC users won't want to switch to a different OS, as they'll just get very confused.
Back to the Eee Box. Personally, I think it's going to flop. It looks good, but for the expected price (which is £250), you're not getting enough. Anyone could build their own dual-core PC with 2GB of RAM, a fair sized hard drive, and a decent graphics card for that price.
I hope you realise that the vast-vast-vast-vast-vast majority do not build their own machine, the vast majority don't need dual core, the vast majority don't play games...
*shrugs* I'm wasting my time, if you couldn't work out it on your own - you'll never get it. -
#3.5 Posted by RPDL on 20 Jun 2008 - 15:08
- (kaiwai said @ #3.4)(MightyJordan said @ #3.1)(garyt said @ #3)Heh, interesting. The original (portable) EEEs first shipped with just Linux, then later on ASUS started shipping Windows XP models.
Now the desktop EEEs will come preloaded with Windows XP at launch, and only later will they start shipping with Linux. The initial OS selection has reversed.
Am I reading into this too much?
Well, Windows XP is the most common OS around, so regular PC users won't want to switch to a different OS, as they'll just get very confused.
Back to the Eee Box. Personally, I think it's going to flop. It looks good, but for the expected price (which is £250), you're not getting enough. Anyone could build their own dual-core PC with 2GB of RAM, a fair sized hard drive, and a decent graphics card for that price.
I hope you realise that the vast-vast-vast-vast-vast majority do not build their own machine, the vast majority don't need dual core, the vast majority don't play games...
*shrugs* I'm wasting my time, if you couldn't work out it on your own - you'll never get it.
Let me remind you that 250 pounds is about 500$ US.
Just because some people would rather buy a less performant computer doesn't mean they should pay extensive amounts of money for it. I mean, you could get a PC just as powerful for less than 200$.
This is just another case of a company playing on people's lack of computer knowledge to make them pay for a brand new, fancy looking ridiculously overpriced PC. The worst is that they are calling this an "economical" choice, when hardware-wise it is a complete ripoff. -
#3.6 Posted by kaiwai on 21 Jun 2008 - 00:51
- (RPDL said @ #3.5)(kaiwai said @ #3.4)(MightyJordan said @ #3.1)(garyt said @ #3)Heh, interesting. The original (portable) EEEs first shipped with just Linux, then later on ASUS started shipping Windows XP models.
Now the desktop EEEs will come preloaded with Windows XP at launch, and only later will they start shipping with Linux. The initial OS selection has reversed.
Am I reading into this too much?
Well, Windows XP is the most common OS around, so regular PC users won't want to switch to a different OS, as they'll just get very confused.
Back to the Eee Box. Personally, I think it's going to flop. It looks good, but for the expected price (which is £250), you're not getting enough. Anyone could build their own dual-core PC with 2GB of RAM, a fair sized hard drive, and a decent graphics card for that price.
I hope you realise that the vast-vast-vast-vast-vast majority do not build their own machine, the vast majority don't need dual core, the vast majority don't play games...
*shrugs* I'm wasting my time, if you couldn't work out it on your own - you'll never get it.
Let me remind you that 250 pounds is about 500$ US.
Just because some people would rather buy a less performant computer doesn't mean they should pay extensive amounts of money for it. I mean, you could get a PC just as powerful for less than 200$.
This is just another case of a company playing on people's lack of computer knowledge to make them pay for a brand new, fancy looking ridiculously overpriced PC. The worst is that they are calling this an "economical" choice, when hardware-wise it is a complete ripoff.
And yet me remind you, the for NZ$700 (which is 250 pounds), you would be hard pressed to find a desktop of similar quality and specifications in New Zealand.
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#4 Posted by rev3nant on 20 Jun 2008 - 12:41
- Hope it's less than €300 in Europe. Otherwise there are cheaper devices with same specs.
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#5 Posted by Brandon on 20 Jun 2008 - 12:44
- Looks like a Wii...
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#5.2 Posted by +rm20010 on 20 Jun 2008 - 14:22
- +2. Usually mini machines like these end up as Mac Mini clones; good thing this doesn't look like one.
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#6 Posted by este on 20 Jun 2008 - 12:51
- hey how do you say that name.
is it E E E
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EEEEEEEEEE (sound it out) -
#6.2 Posted by xSuRgEx on 20 Jun 2008 - 13:09
- when you ask for one at the store you say
where are the "triple e pcs" -
#6.3 Posted by +King Antonius on 20 Jun 2008 - 13:14
- (rev3nant said @ #6.1)e-box? (e as in sheep)
e-sheep???
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#6.4 Posted by Smigit on 20 Jun 2008 - 14:40
- (xSuRgEx said @ #6.2)when you ask for one at the store you sayyeah I sometimes say "E E E" but usually it's the "Tripple E"
where are the "triple e pcs" -
#6.5 Posted by +chconline on 20 Jun 2008 - 14:45
- Nope, it's spelled like Eee PC, not EEE PC. The correct way of pronouncing it is like "E-PC".
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#6.6 Posted by este on 20 Jun 2008 - 15:26
- (chconline said @ #6.5)Nope, it's spelled like Eee PC, not EEE PC. The correct way of pronouncing it is like "E-PC".
Where do you get the PC from. I just see EEEEEEEEE -
#6.7 Posted by markjensen on 20 Jun 2008 - 15:37
- (este said @ #6.6)Maybe he got it from....(chconline said @ #6.5)Nope, it's spelled like Eee PC, not EEE PC. The correct way of pronouncing it is like "E-PC".
Where do you get the PC from. I just see EEEEEEEEE
(wait for it)
ASUS, themselves.
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/
"EEE PC" -
#6.8 Posted by este on 20 Jun 2008 - 17:58
- (markjensen said @ #6.7)(este said @ #6.6)(chconline said @ #6.5)Nope, it's spelled like Eee PC, not EEE PC. The correct way of pronouncing it is like "E-PC".
Where do you get the PC from. I just see EEEEEEEEE
Maybe he got it from....
(wait for it)
ASUS, themselves.
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/
"EEE PC"
Makes sense I guess
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#7 Posted by +njlouch on 20 Jun 2008 - 13:14
- Would something like this be ok as a simple, no-hi-def media centre?
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#7.1 Posted by garyt on 20 Jun 2008 - 13:25
- That would be a really good idea actually, and packaged in a nice slim case for a decent price I hope, would be an attractive option.
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#8 Posted by McLuke on 20 Jun 2008 - 13:40
- Eee-PC as a UMPC is very nice with its size and its full functions at low cost. But why would someone need a desktop like that? Or it's another low-cost desktop option for kid in poor country, or Internet access point at airport?
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#9 Posted by mocax on 20 Jun 2008 - 13:59
- EeeServerFarm
Could fit a dozen of those on a single rack tray.
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#10 Posted by backdrifter on 20 Jun 2008 - 14:10
- Looks rather nice, but it has to be very competitive in terms of price, the desktop market offers a lot more options than the laptop market.
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#11 Posted by +shakey_snake on 20 Jun 2008 - 14:50
- Yeah, I can't see the niche this is supposed to fill, either.
It's not like you're going to carry it around with you, so having a small form factor at a premium loses nearly all its advantage.
Maybe the stripped down version of Xandros the eeePCs run can help it compete with iMacs in the "we need something very very easy to use" market.
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#12 Posted by Chicane-UK on 20 Jun 2008 - 15:12
- Can't be any more than about £250.. you're starting to get into Mac Mini territory after that and there is no comparison there IMHO.
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#13 Posted by coolkat007 on 20 Jun 2008 - 17:22
- this will be my carputer...
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#14 Posted by PureLegend on 20 Jun 2008 - 17:36
- I really like this actually. It doesn't have the same shortcomings as the laptop because you use your own keyboard/mouse IMO.
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#15 Posted by RobertH on 20 Jun 2008 - 17:45
- 1GB of RAM, welcome to 2005? :/ That's so stingey, 2GB would be a better starting point. Hard drive is a tad small too, 80GB would fill up fast even for general usage IMHO.
Anyway, i actually like the looks of it. If its small enough, quiet and neat (and cheap!)) then i think this could steal quite a few Mac Mini sales in its life time. -
#15.2 Posted by n_K on 20 Jun 2008 - 20:32
- haha, my laptop that I use for playing music (has no screen) has 196MB of RAM and runs XP Embedded with most of the components there and has a 400Mhz chip
so welcome to 1997 for me -
#15.3 Posted by rev3nant on 20 Jun 2008 - 23:29
- What COMMON tasks would you need more than 1GB RAM and 80GB HDD for?
I've got a WS 2008 with IIS and SQL Server 2008 running on similar specs (1/80) for development needs and as a local file server. So far no problem. -
#15.4 Posted by kaiwai on 21 Jun 2008 - 13:36
- (rev3nant said @ #15.3)What COMMON tasks would you need more than 1GB RAM and 80GB HDD for?
I've got a WS 2008 with IIS and SQL Server 2008 running on similar specs (1/80) for development needs and as a local file server. So far no problem.
Its got a USB 2.0 - correct? then just look up an external hard disk if space is a great worry. Considering who this appliance is targeting, I doubt that they would need any more than 80gb.
Just a side note, it reminds me actually of the Sun Ray Appliance Sun Microsystems sells:
(Except that the Sun Ray were nothing more than a dumb terminal/thin client - I always wondered what a slimmed down computer in that sort of configuration would be like if they made it available; if they loaded it with 32gb flash memory and an UltraSPARC IIe, along with a decent embedded graphics card, it would be a neat replacement for my big balky Dell Dimension desktop).
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#17 Posted by Doli on 20 Jun 2008 - 23:42
- Put a bigger hard drive and I can see it as a nice looking HTPC.
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#18 Posted by RAID 0 on 21 Jun 2008 - 23:45
- For the price, I'd rather buy a mac mini. You just get more for your money.
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#19 Posted by C++ on 22 Jun 2008 - 11:19
- Unless it's absurdly cheap, this is rather pointless. Unlike with the mobile Eee PC, we already have cheap and tiny desktops out there. This brings nothing new to the market.
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#19.1 Posted by 3rd impact on 22 Jun 2008 - 14:24
- (C++ said @ #19)Unless it's absurdly cheap, this is rather pointless. Unlike with the mobile Eee PC, we already have cheap and tiny desktops out there. This brings nothing new to the market.
i concur. but as long as people like DJ Dez here buy it because its cool, it will sell. -
#19.3 Posted by kaiwai on 22 Jun 2008 - 20:50
- (C++ said @ #19)Unless it's absurdly cheap, this is rather pointless. Unlike with the mobile Eee PC, we already have cheap and tiny desktops out there. This brings nothing new to the market.
Excuse me, but where are these 'tiny and cheap' desktops? unless you're talking about trash, most start at around NZ$900 and go up from there. -
#19.4 Posted by Magallanes on 22 Jun 2008 - 21:53
- (kaiwai said @ #19.3)(C++ said @ #19)Unless it's absurdly cheap, this is rather pointless. Unlike with the mobile Eee PC, we already have cheap and tiny desktops out there. This brings nothing new to the market.
Excuse me, but where are these 'tiny and cheap' desktops? unless you're talking about trash, most start at around NZ$900 and go up from there.
Indeed, there are few tiny pc around here and the few are quite expensive. Also this Eee can be a silent pc, so can fit perfectly in a corporate office.
With the desktop, buyers will get a Windows XP Home machine running on Intel's Atom N270 processor at 1.6GHz, 1GB of DDR2 RAM and an 80GB hard drive.
The usual connectivity options will be in place, along with three USB ports and a VGA out for connecting a monitor - you'll need to supply the screen yourself, of course.
Asus has said that it will add Linux to the mix later in the year, at which time we expect other hardware configurations to surface too.