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New online digital storage 'Ecosystem' to rival iTunes?

Fred Derf   on 13 September 2008 - 18:40 · 18 comments & 9634 views

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A consortium of media companies including Alcatel-Lucent, Best Buy, Cisco, Comcast, Fox, HP, Intel, Lions Gate, Microsoft, NBC Universal, Paramount Pictures, Philips, Sony, Toshiba, VeriSign and Warner Bros plan to create a digital video ‘ecosystem'. This new digital framework, essentially an online virtual storage library containing a digital rights locker, would be in direct contrast to Apple's iTunes vendor-based model. The consortium will call itself Digital Entertainment Content Ecosystem (or DECE) and their goal is to create an “uniform digital media experience”. More specifically, it would give the media producers more control over the media rather than leaving that in the domain of online retailers like Apple. Consumers would be able to copy licensed material to their portable devices or burn the content onto physical media. They plan to use a DECE logo to signify which digital content is compatible and their aim is to make digital media as easy to play as a DVD purchased from a store. In fact, they would embrace the "buy once, play anywhere" model. More details will be released during the Consumer Electronics Show in January 2009.

“This is very different from the Apple ecosystem,” said DECE President Mitch Singer. “We encourage Apple to join the consortium. We don't ever anticipate Apple going away or this consortium replacing it.” Yet in the same interview Singer said that this new ecosystem would turn Apple's "closed" iTunes model 'on its head'.

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(4 replies) #1 Galley on 13 Sep 2008 - 18:46
That's why I buy CDs. I don't have to deal with DRM garbage.
#1.1 Fred Derf on 13 Sep 2008 - 18:49
(Galley said @ #1)
That's why I buy CDs. I don't have to deal with DRM garbage.

Presumably this system attempts to offer the best of both worlds. While they would certainly have DRM, it would be purchasable online and they would also offer "buy once, play anywhere" like a real CD. The biggest problem would seem to be that all of your existing material would be incompatible.
#1.2 Deathray on 13 Sep 2008 - 20:32
(Fred Derf said @ #1.1)
(Galley said @ #1)
That's why I buy CDs. I don't have to deal with DRM garbage.

Presumably this system attempts to offer the best of both worlds. While they would certainly have DRM, it would be purchasable online and they would also offer "buy once, play anywhere" like a real CD. The biggest problem would seem to be that all of your existing material would be incompatible.


Perhaps they would honour your previous purchases? Unlikely, but one can hope, and that'd give it a great head start...
#1.3 _dandy_ on 14 Sep 2008 - 12:06
(Galley said @ #1)
That's why I buy CDs. I don't have to deal with DRM garbage.


I guess you must've missed that whole Sony rootkit thing, huh?
#1.4 betasp on 15 Sep 2008 - 01:00
(Fred Derf said @ #1.1)
(Galley said @ #1)
That's why I buy CDs. I don't have to deal with DRM garbage.

Presumably this system attempts to offer the best of both worlds. While they would certainly have DRM, it would be purchasable online and they would also offer "buy once, play anywhere" like a real CD. The biggest problem would seem to be that all of your existing material would be incompatible.


Like the "Play's for Sure?"
#2 Magallanes on 14 Sep 2008 - 00:00
It is a serpent's nest, where every evil company will bite and try to eat each other.

Apple will (and must) not join this group.
#3 +Boz on 14 Sep 2008 - 00:15
This is the clear end of optical media. All companies are joining hands to create one effective standard for DRM that will be transparent to the consumer and allow digital downloads to work everywhere.

This was the last piece of the puzzle for digital downloads to break free and be completely mainstream. The ability to play purchased content on any device, from XBOX to PS3 to Zune to Toshiba DVD player.. this marks truly a new era for DRM.

DRM was always bad because it never had all companies work together like this.. everybody had their own technology and it cause havoc. With this, it will be unified and transparent to the consumers. Totally ok!
(1 reply) #4 Ayepecks on 14 Sep 2008 - 01:37
Wait, so I can buy it once, play it anywhere, burn it anywhere, and play it on any device?

This sounds far too logical (and reasonable) to be true with all these countries.

So what exactly is the DRM then? I don't understand what they're limiting. Just keeping it from being pirated?
#4.1 +Boz on 14 Sep 2008 - 07:31
That's why it's great.. the DRM is there so you can't distribute the movie you have or content you get, but that doesn't prevent you from playing it on multiple devices with your ID for example. So in essence it's transparent to you because most devices or services under this standard will play your content regardless what device it is or where it is. You just type in your password (I'm of course simplifying) and you play the content.

It is truly what we needed for all this time, but companies trying to emerge as a winner like Apple did with iTunes made them come up with incompatible and inefficient DRMs that made hell for consumers. This is very similar to PlaysForSure but on a much larger scale and is truly suppose to be the standard that most CE companies and studios and services will support.

The future is bright if this indeed comes to life. It is also a definite beginning of the end of optical media as this is allowing consumers unprecedented flexibility and security that their purchases are always protected and will play anywhere under the standard.

Great stuff.
#5 The Tjalian on 14 Sep 2008 - 01:41
I'm definitely supporting this. It's a great colloboration and makes it easy for anyone to download movies, which is the way it should be.
(3 replies) #6 Purple Haze on 14 Sep 2008 - 02:39
I don't trust anything that involves that many companies.
#6.1 _dandy_ on 14 Sep 2008 - 12:09
(Purple Haze said @ #6)
I don't trust anything that involves that many companies.


You'd rather be at the mercy of Apple??
#6.2 mattrobs on 15 Sep 2008 - 09:27
At least Apple (pretend to) be pro-consumer. When have Microsoft or the music studios ever been pro-consumer?
#6.3 _dandy_ on 15 Sep 2008 - 13:33
(mattrobs said @ #6.2)
At least Apple (pretend to) be pro-consumer.


'cuz iTunes is soooooooo friendly and flexible, huh?
#7 dvb2000 on 14 Sep 2008 - 09:57
What a load of bollocks. Haven't these companies learned that consumers don't want DRM. Hasn't the Microsoft "plays for sure" or Apples AAC (or whatever it was) or Yahoo'd failed DRM schemes registered with you?

If you really must, "go for it" guys.


I won't be sending you any of my money though, I'll go to the stores offering DRM FREE content.
#8 smooth_criminal1990 on 14 Sep 2008 - 19:43
Would I be right in thinking this resembes STEAM, only with music?
Either way, I think I'll jus stick to my second-hand CDs
#9 HalcyonX12 on 15 Sep 2008 - 06:00
Yay a cartel. They couldn't squeeze the prices they wanted out of Apple...
#10 ]SK[ on 15 Sep 2008 - 07:09
I try to download most material from 7digital.com as they offer it in MP3 or AAC format. At a last resort I buy from iTunes

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