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Daniel Fleshbourne   on 10 November 2008 - 17:00 · 35 comments & 8082 views

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Microsoft has announced a deal with Sun Microsystems to offer its MSN Toolbar when users download the Java Runtime Environment (JRE), from today.

Anyone downloading JRE will have the option to download the MSN Toolbar giving them one-click access to Microsoft’s Live Search features and direct access to Live Hotmail and Messenger.
“This agreement with Sun Microsystems is another important milestone in our strategy to secure broad-scale distribution for our search offering, enabling millions more people to experience the benefits of Live Search,” said Yusuf Mehdi, senior vice president of the Online Audience Business at Microsoft. “With the vast array of Java software-based Web applications that are downloaded every month, this deal will expose Live Search to millions more Internet users and drive increased volume for our search advertisers.”
Java is one of the most popular consumer downloads on the web with tens of millions of downloads each month. Java is used all over the web from online games to online applications.
With over 800 million Java desktop users around the world, our goal is to provide Java users with compelling and immersive business and consumer solutions powered by Java technology and value-added solutions from world-class software partners,” said Rich Green, executive vice president of Software at Sun Microsystems. “Our customers expect top-quality products when they choose to download technology from Sun, and we are confident that they will find great value in both Microsoft’s MSN toolbar and Live Search.”

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#1 Deathray on 10 Nov 2008 - 17:07
This is sort of surprising, wasn't JAVA distributing with google toolbar before? Or am I getting confused with all these annoying options in every program I try to install
#2 Neobond on 10 Nov 2008 - 17:09
Sun in working with Microsoft U-turn shocker!
(2 replies) #3 acnpt on 10 Nov 2008 - 17:11
As if Java isn't bad enough ugh!!.
I guess Sun need the money, considering their losses.
#3.1 cork1958 on 10 Nov 2008 - 17:37
acnpt said,
As if Java isn't bad enough ugh!!.
I guess Sun need the money, considering their losses.


Exactly correct!
2 POS's in one program does not make for a good experience!!

I quit usng java the day I have to install Suns crap!
#3.2 kaiwai on 10 Nov 2008 - 21:06
cork1958 said,
acnpt said,
As if Java isn't bad enough ugh!!.
I guess Sun need the money, considering their losses.


Exactly correct!
2 POS's in one program does not make for a good experience!!

I quit usng java the day I have to install Suns crap!


Nothing wrong with Java, the problem is that lack of polish always gives the end user a feeling that 'boy this is really crap'. I hope that with Windows 7 which has DirectWrite and Direct2D, Sun will take advantage of this to improve Java - god knows I don't want to be in a world where there is only one thing on offer (aka .NET).
#4 Mercellus on 10 Nov 2008 - 17:18
Well that was unexpected. Now I'll need to uncheck both OpenOffice.org and MSN Toolbar when I install the JRE on a PC.
(1 reply) #5 qdave on 10 Nov 2008 - 17:24
that is cool
#5.1 hotdog963al on 10 Nov 2008 - 22:52
qdave said,
that is cool

I do hope that was sarcasm.
#6 Commodore Max on 10 Nov 2008 - 17:35
That's pretty random
#7 creamhackered on 10 Nov 2008 - 17:44
Omg, has hell frozen over?
(1 reply) #8 Sazz181 on 10 Nov 2008 - 18:13
Today is a sad day indeed.
#8.1 tablet_user on 10 Nov 2008 - 20:32
Sazz181 said,
Today is a sad day indeed.


a toolbar depresses you?? time to up the meds.
#9 shortyg32 on 10 Nov 2008 - 18:15
what is so wrong with sun java ?
(5 replies) #10 PureLegend on 10 Nov 2008 - 18:27
I thought Java was open source.
#10.1 ichi on 10 Nov 2008 - 18:46
PureLegend said,
I thought Java was open source.


And it is.
#10.2 PureLegend on 10 Nov 2008 - 19:05
So couldn't someone fork it and remove the toolbar?
#10.3 virtorio on 10 Nov 2008 - 20:05
PureLegend said,
So couldn't someone fork it and remove the toolbar?

I think you'll find it's just offered at download/install time. No need for fork anything, just uncheck a checkbox.
#10.4 PureLegend on 10 Nov 2008 - 20:16
Yeah, but if someone wanted to, they could, right? Make it smaller to distribute?
#10.5 tablet_user on 10 Nov 2008 - 20:31
PureLegend said,
Yeah, but if someone wanted to, they could, right? Make it smaller to distribute?


except the fact that its not in the actual setup. its just a line of code telling it to download the toolbar if accepted.
(1 reply) #11 Scorbing on 10 Nov 2008 - 18:50
More useless bloat for our browsers.
#11.1 tablet_user on 10 Nov 2008 - 20:31
Scorbing said,
More useless bloat for our browsers.


#1 you can easily uncheck the install.
#2 its only like 1mb in size. hardly counts for bloat.
(1 reply) #12 vetneufuse on 10 Nov 2008 - 18:57
What next changing the link to Open Office to a link to buy MS Office in the installer?
#12.1 tablet_user on 10 Nov 2008 - 20:32
neufuse said,
What next changing the link to Open Office to a link to buy MS Office in the installer?


at least they would finally be offering a decent office program.
(1 reply) #13 smooth_criminal1990 on 10 Nov 2008 - 19:23
oh god I hate it when stuff tries to fiddle with your browser homepage/toolbars/security settings, another novel way of getting their hands on your search data and browsing habits.
#13.1 tablet_user on 10 Nov 2008 - 20:32
smooth_criminal1990 said,
oh god I hate it when stuff tries to fiddle with your browser homepage/toolbars/security settings, another novel way of getting their hands on your search data and browsing habits.


then uncheck it.
(1 reply) #14 hkgonra on 10 Nov 2008 - 20:34
At least now it makes sense why google removed star office all of a sudden.
#14.1 kaiwai on 10 Nov 2008 - 21:10
hkgonra said,
At least now it makes sense why google removed star office all of a sudden.


I have a feeling they're going to discontinue StarOffice - there used to be a big difference between OpenOffice.org and StarOffice but because alot of the holes have been filled in over the last several releases, the gap has closed to the point that the differences are very minute.
(1 reply) #15 TRC on 10 Nov 2008 - 21:57
Before anyone complains remember that Google crams their stupid toolbar into every program they can.
#15.1 virtorio on 11 Nov 2008 - 01:26
TRC said,
Before anyone complains remember that Google crams their stupid toolbar into every program they can.

And people complain about that also.
(1 reply) #16 hotdog963al on 10 Nov 2008 - 22:53
Search toolbars should be banned from the computing industry.
#16.1 hkgonra on 10 Nov 2008 - 23:52
QFT !!!!!!!!!
#17 random_n on 11 Nov 2008 - 01:39
Sun's JRE has the worst update system in existance. The fact that they hock toolbars and OpenOffice to people during security updates is pretty much unforgivable in my eyes.
#18 P1R4T3 on 11 Nov 2008 - 03:51
Thats so unexpected.
(1 reply) #19 Airlink on 11 Nov 2008 - 05:50
Who the heck still uses Java?
#19.1 RebelSean on 11 Nov 2008 - 14:22
Airlink said,
Who the heck still uses Java?


Over 800 million people .

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