A sneak peek given to the press by AMD, showcased their upcoming line of processors known as the "Phenom II". The Phenom II are AMD's answer to Intel's newest chipset, the Core i7. Hoping to compete in the market with the Core i7 the Phenom II line of quad-core processors will be AM2+ compatible. The first two models to be released will have a clock speed that starts at 2.8GHz. However, one of the key bragging areas for AMD's line of Phenom processors is its overclockability.
AMD claims a 30-40% reduction in power consumption under full load thanks to their transition to a 45nm fab process. AMD has also stated that in addition to the 30-40% power consumption reduction that consumers can expect, they should also expect a 30-40% increase in performance over previous Phenom models.
In a demonstration, AMD displayed the overclocking power of the Phenom II X4, showing it hit 4GHz stable at 1.55v on air cooling with a temperature of 32?C. With water-cooling the CPU broke the 4GHz barrier with a 39?C temperature. For kicks and giggles the Phenom II was shown running stable at speeds higher than 5GHz on nitrogen cooling and even booted at speeds that were higher than 6GHz.
It's too early to say whether or not the Phenom II's can match the power of the i7's as we'll have to wait until benchmarks are released to do so, but the competition seems anything but idle.
If that happens then Intel will have a possibility of raising prices, lowering standards of progress or both.
OMG! i hope thir performance are alike!
Edit:
At thir stock speeds.
How events turn around eh? few years ago when Intel posted records of overclocked northwoods and prescotts, AMD kept reminding us that clocks do not fix inferior architecture (which is true)
Now it is the opposite after years trying to erase the concept of clocks speeds to describe cpu speed.
How events turn around eh? few years ago when Intel posted records of overclocked northwoods and prescotts, AMD kept reminding us that clocks do not fix inferior architecture (which is true)
Now it is the opposite after years trying to erase the concept of clocks speeds to describe cpu speed.
overclocking is about upping the speed on a processor. overclocking has nothing to do with the 'inferior architecture.' therefore, this is simply a demonstration that their processors are not only more efficient than the previous generation, but that they are also far more overclockable. don't get your ideals twisted into thinking they're going back on what the said about clock speed, they were simply showing the flexibility of their new chip.
Unlike the original Phenom which barely exceeded its launch speeds of 2.4ghz? and hurt it's potential for future growth in consumers minds.
Yes, it's all about instructions per cycle, and other factors.
That's not necessarily true. MHz does not count for nothing. Imagine a 0 mhz processor, what use would that be to you?
You know what I meant.
I don't really.
Same Architecture means the IFC wouldn't have changed
MHZ must count for something otherwise all Intel i7, Core2duo and Core2Quad models would have the exact same price tag as their family.
I think you're right. If it's close enough, it can help drive down the cost of both Intel's and AMD's chips.
I love competitions like this!
They do not mean very little. They are just less important than they once were.
Perhaps aquiring ATI was a bit too much for their plate with the economic fall that followed, but I suspect that in the coming years that they will finally be able to (not catch up) streamline their compatability to produce results that will compete with Intel on a parallel but not similiar standing.
Why do you doubt it?
Intel was able to recover the failure that was the Pentium 4. I remember when my friend bought his Pentium 4 cpu. It was clocked higher than my AMD Athlon and was more expensive. We had the same gfx card and the same amount of ram and i was able to get a better framerate in games than him.
If intel can do it AMD too.
Btw AMD ATI was able to recover in the gfx business with the 4850 and 4870.
oh, I wasn't saying that they fell behind in the GPU market, I was just saying that it seems like they haven't been able to completely streamline it's too product like they wanted to yet. I speculate that it's going to be a bit longer than they planned b/c of the economic state.
If your not familiar with it's stream-lining plan, as i understand it, it's going to be a bit similiar to Apple in the aspect of their parts working smoother with each other than with another. I beleive they called it the 'spider' something.
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=349615
keep in mind this isn't even nitro cooling, this is all on AIR
AMD = stock 2.8 / OC 4.0
Intel = stock 2.6 / OC 4.3
So:
AMD = stock 2.8 / OC 4.0
Intel = stock 2.6 / OC 3.8
And also keep in mind that the chip is NOT OUT YET. So for all we know, EVGA could go OC it to 4.6 or something.
So:
AMD = stock 2.8 / OC 4.0
Intel = stock 2.6 / OC 3.8
And also keep in mind that the chip is NOT OUT YET. So for all we know, EVGA could go OC it to 4.6 or something.
not out ?????
you can find them every where in e-tailers
I doubt the phenom 2 will beat the i7 but developing a true quad core processor architecture will have a few niggles with it at first. so once they iron it all out they can start improving on it which i hope is what theyve done with this processor. i reckon amd will start coming back with a there next few processors giving intel a run for the performance crown
or no one cares
and the differnce are big from C2Q too Phenom P.O.S.
Just give me decent benchmarks while air cooled running your stock clock speeds at decent prices and I'll take notice.
I used AMD for the better part of 25 years and finally went to the Intel Q6600 then to the i7 just recently. AMD will be back at some time and even if they don't compete directly with the latest Intel offerings, it will help to lower prices all around.
Whatever anyone thinks of either AMD or Intel, competition is good for us consumers.
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