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For Mac OS or Windows? Multi-touch displays in production

Mitchell LeBlanc   on 28 November 2008 - 07:03 · 23 comments & 5118 views

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According to reports from Stuff.tv, following a recent visit to one of LG's display factories, it appears that LG is preparing to ship multi-touch screens. There are rumors arising that the displays are for Apple and a future multi-touch iMac.

Apple has stated quite clearly that multi-touch will not be a feature available on their desktop or notebook line in the near future, yet the rumor mill still brewed and with the discovery of these LG screens, is brewing further.

It is also possible that these displays could be LCDs for the upcoming Windows 7 release or merely displays for manufacturers other than Apple.

Hewellet-Packard was the first company to release a multi-touch desktop with their TouchSmart series, which boast better hardware than current iMacs plus the touch capability at a better price/performance ratio.

Apple fans will have to wait until the upcoming MacWorld Expo in January to see if multi-touch will be included with Snow Leopard and Apple was just 'being mysterious'. Until then, it is not expected that the rumors of the multi-touch iMac will subside.

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(1 reply) #1 RAID 0 on 28 Nov 2008 - 08:39
I can't see using a touch screen as a primary way of interfacing with my system... yet.
#1.1 +Brandon Live on 28 Nov 2008 - 17:04
I don't think anyone is suggesting that a touch screen should be the primary input mechanism, particularly for a normal desktop machine. But it's a great additional feature with some compelling uses.

The cases where I think it might do better as a *primary* input mechanism are like kitchen PCs or other fixed but small footprint PCs, entirely new form factors, tablets, etc.
(1 reply) #2 Digix on 28 Nov 2008 - 08:49
Won't be happening on desktops widely anytime soon, however having the ability will be cool i guess for some things for some people but definitely not power users or gamers.
#2.1 RAID 0 on 28 Nov 2008 - 08:50
Digix said,
Won't be happening on desktops widely anytime soon, however having the ability will be cool i guess for some things for some people but definitely not power users or gamers.


Agreed.
#3 The Tjalian on 28 Nov 2008 - 09:33
The keyboard and mouse won't go away for a *very* long time, expect this to be a secondary input system if true.
(3 replies) #4 Pygmy_Hippo on 28 Nov 2008 - 09:42
Am I alone in thinking that an A4 size(ish) iPhone style laptop would be nice? I know this is just the old Tablet PC design, which was way ahead of its time and technology, but is definitely something that could be made (and, more importantly, sold) now.
If it had wireless on board it could easily sync up with mice and keyboards - just have a latch on the back so it stays upright in either portrait or landscape mode.

Most improtantly it would look like the PADD's from Star Trek which would greatly please my inner geek!
#4.1 Kirkburn on 28 Nov 2008 - 10:26
Pygmy_Hippo said,
Am I alone in thinking that an A4 size(ish) iPhone style laptop would be nice? I know this is just the old Tablet PC design, which was way ahead of its time and technology, but is definitely something that could be made (and, more importantly, sold) now.
If it had wireless on board it could easily sync up with mice and keyboards - just have a latch on the back so it stays upright in either portrait or landscape mode.

Most improtantly it would look like the PADD's from Star Trek which would greatly please my inner geek!

So a tablet PC then... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_PC
#4.2 Pygmy_Hippo on 28 Nov 2008 - 12:04
Kirkburn said,
Pygmy_Hippo said,
I know this is just the old Tablet PC design which was way ahead of its time and technology, but is definitely something that could be made (and, more importantly, sold) now.)


So a tablet PC then... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_PC


Yup! But the tablet PC was never the great success that it should have been - with Apple's marketing savvy and faithful fanbase it could reinvigorate the whole platform.
#4.3 Magallanes on 28 Nov 2008 - 12:36
A proper tabletpc (at least those with Wacom interface) is completely different to a touch screen notebook.

The "tiny" difference between a tabletpc and a touchscreen is in tabletpc you are not losing your mouse pointer, so you can move your mouse cursor without touching the screen, instead a touchscreen you are losing it, rendering impossible to do several task (for example to play fps games).
(1 reply) #5 Timble on 28 Nov 2008 - 11:30
So the following facts are known:
1. Microsoft is preparing, and has announced, a multi-touch OS for 2009/10.
2. LG is preparing multi-touch screens.
3. Apple has announced that it has no multi-touch plans.

From these facts, and these alone, the article-writer has concluded that the screens are for Macs. Personally, I can't see the logical leap here, though for those that make the errant assumption that Apple will always be first with new technology, I can imagine why they would get excited.
#5.1 MitchLeBlanc on 28 Nov 2008 - 17:08
I didn't assume that.
#6 dangel on 28 Nov 2008 - 14:13
I can't wait to be able to lick my windows!

Huzzah!
#7 majortom1981 on 28 Nov 2008 - 14:30
Why not be for hp? Maybe hp plans on switching touch panel partners?
#8 LaXu on 28 Nov 2008 - 16:05
I tried the HP Touchsmart and quickly noticed that Vista is not ideal for touch screen. The user interface would have to be different, with bigger buttons not necessarily located in the corner where it's more difficult to touch. In the Touchsmart's case it didn't help that the screen was recessed.

I also felt that using a 20" touchscreen was rather fatigueing so there may be life still left in the ol' mouse&keyboard...
#9 +LTD on 28 Nov 2008 - 16:47
Touchscreen a la iPhone is most certainly not ideal for desktop displays or notebook displays. It's awkward to use and you'll get a case of gorilla-arm pretty quickly.

If we consider a touchscreen "wall" for example, to which you can dictate your distance and angle, that's a different story. We've seen that concept illustrated successfully on CNN and certain tech videos, etc.

It is, however, ideal for a tablet-like device or other device that can rest flat, or that can be positioned in such a manner.

There are already multi-touch Macs (notebooks), but the Multi-touch gestures aren't performed on the display.
#10 techbeck on 28 Nov 2008 - 17:14
From what I read, Windows 7 will have this capability. All you need is a touch screen monitor. I dont see a good use for this other than for an information/kiosk system.
(2 replies) #11 chemaz101 on 28 Nov 2008 - 23:16
might be a stupid question, but im curious to how a comp will know ur using a touchscreen monitor, i mean will it just plug in a normal dvi socket on a gfx card, or will it have an extra cable like usb or something to carry the "touch information" or will we need new gfx cards?
#11.1 Pc_Madness on 29 Nov 2008 - 00:07
They're serial or USB I think.
#11.2 Xerxes on 29 Nov 2008 - 11:55
Easy, DisplayPort would handle that problem no worries. For legacy systems (i.e. DVI/VGA) a serial/USB connection will be required.
#12 asmat on 29 Nov 2008 - 01:12
but.. will it blend...
#13 Xerxes on 29 Nov 2008 - 11:38
Interesting, I wouldn't be surprised if Snow Leopard does support multi-touch though. It would be a good way to steal some thunder from MS and not to mention Apple could boast in the ad campaign for Snow Leopard, they did multi-touch first (even though technically they didn't, I'm sure people know what I mean though).

To Apple saying they definitely won't be doing it, how many times have MS said they are definitely not doing something, when (secretly) they really are? Apple will be no different I suspect. Apple have proven (with the Touch/iPhone) they know how to make an OS work well with multi-touch, extending that to a desktop OS is not that much of a jump, not really. Just my 2 cents, take with a grain of salt.
#14 +LTD on 29 Nov 2008 - 13:18
OS X already supports Multi-Touch. All current-gen Apple notebooks have Multi-Touch. Just not on the actual display.

Multi-Touch doesn't mean "touchscreen."
#15 Catharsis on 01 Dec 2008 - 21:32
Why would I want my hand in the way of my vision? Just make an identical sized pad for our hands, rather than fingerprint-ing up the screen, and trying to see around our own hands.

Touch-screens, for the most part, just sound like technology for technology's sake to me.

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