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Windows 7 Beta 1 Vs Windows Vista Vs Windows XP

Chaks   on 03 January 2009 - 11:18 · 78 comments & 82282 views

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After Windows 7 beta 1 leaked, many bloggers caught hold of it very soon and started testing/using Windows 7. We saw Ed Bott from ZDnet reporting about the changes in the Windows 7 beta 1 license agreement. Adrian Kingsley-Hughes from ZDnet has benchmarked Windows 7 with its predecessors Windows Vista and Windows XP. The Windows 7 build 6.1.7000.0.081212-1400 was considered for testing. Since its 32bit, it was tested against 32bit versions of Windows Vista SP1 and Windows XP SP3.

There were 23 factors tested and some of the factors that interested me were:
  • Install OS
  • Move 100MB files
  • Move 2.5GB files
  • Network transfer 100MB files
  • Network transfer 2.5GB files

The systems considered for benchmarking were:
  • An AMD Phenom 9700 2.4GHz system fitted with an ATI Radeon 3850 and 4GB of RAM
  • An Intel Pentium Dual Core E2200 2.2GHz fitted with an NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS and 1GB of RAM

The overall results were very promising for Windows 7. It outperformed its predecessors Vista and XP in almost every factor tested and ranked #1. Windows Vista ranked #2 with the AMD and #3 with the Intel. Windows XP ranked #3 with the AMD and #2 with the Intel. But the scores weren't big enough to compare between Windows Vista and Windows XP.

Below is the score for some of the factors listed above:




And the overall results:




Sure these tests show a huge improvement on Windows 7 even at this early stage when compared to Windows Vista(during its beta stages).

*Images Courtesy: ZDNet

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(8 replies) #1 Steven77 on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:18
I feel as if 7000 is slightly slower than 6956. I have heard a few other people say that also.
#1.1 creamhackered on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:26
Not for me that's for sure. Greatly improved from 6956.
#1.2 thealexweb on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:44
creamhackered said,
Not for me that's for sure. Greatly improved from 6956.


You one of very few people that saw that, about 99% say 7000 is faster including me.
#1.3 Imran Hussain on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:46
thealexweb said,
You one of very few people that saw that, about 99% say 7000 is faster including me.

+1
#1.4 Glendi on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:53
thealexweb said,
You one of very few people that saw that, about 99% say 7000 is faster including me.


He's actually saying 7000 is faster >_>. Read well.
#1.5 +stevember on 03 Jan 2009 - 18:01
Faster for me, just installed on 128Gb SSD OCZ and wow.
#1.6 ]SK[ on 03 Jan 2009 - 18:03
Glendi said,
He's actually saying 7000 is faster >_>. Read well.


I've read his comment 5 times. Each time it reads to me he's saying 7000 is 'slightly' slower.
#1.7 Glendi on 03 Jan 2009 - 18:23
SK[ said,]

I've read his comment 5 times. Each time it reads to me he's saying 7000 is 'slightly' slower.


Did you actually read who he is quoting? He's quoting creamhackered who says 7000 is greatly improved from 6956. That's why I said 'read well'.
#1.8 Chaks on 03 Jan 2009 - 22:04
creamhackered said,
Not for me that's for sure. Greatly improved from 6956.


+1
(4 replies) #2 Alkaif on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:37
its broked my soundcard drivers
#2.1 +WindowsNT on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:46
Alkaif said,
its broked my soundcard drivers


Maybe because there are native drivers for your sound card at this point in time? Have you tried Vista drivers?
#2.2 milesfromordinary on 03 Jan 2009 - 16:25
i dont think there are any Creative drivers for Windows 7 atm. ive tried using the regular Vista installer, as well as extracting and installing the driver manually. No luck
#2.3 Marshalus on 03 Jan 2009 - 18:14
milesfromordinary said,
i dont think there are any Creative drivers for Windows 7 atm. ive tried using the regular Vista installer, as well as extracting and installing the driver manually. No luck


On build 7000 when I did Windows Updates it detected a Creative driver, downloaded and installed it.
#2.4 Alkaif on 03 Jan 2009 - 21:07
WindowsNT said,
Maybe because there are native drivers for your sound card at this point in time? Have you tried Vista drivers?

Yeah I've tried that. Why would something which worked perfectly in build 6801 change in 7000?

Marshalus said,
On build 7000 when I did Windows Updates it detected a Creative driver, downloaded and installed it.

Yeah I've downloaded the Vista drivers, extracted them and installed it and sound card works...for like 5 mins before it creatively creates a whole bunch of noise and then bam...freezes. have to restart the computer to use sound again.
(2 replies) #3 LTD on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:42
For some reason "Ed Bott" doesn't sound like a real person.
#3.1 cJr. on 03 Jan 2009 - 17:50
Haha, I always thought that!
#3.2 +dead.cell on 04 Jan 2009 - 12:53
lmao.
(1 reply) #4 Julius Caro on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:47
that's one crappy intel PC lol
#4.1 DaDog V12 on 05 Jan 2009 - 04:42
Julius Caro said,
that's one crappy intel PC lol

Yes it is and if it runs good on that, imagine how much better it would be on a Core 2 Duo or i7.
Hell I have an Athlon 64 3200+ Venice for socket 754 that runs 7 like a dream and this is just a VM w/ 1GB provided to it.
(14 replies) #5 BanneD on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:50
isn't benchmarking prohibited by NDA? if that's the case who wants to bet how long until this article gets removed?
#5.1 Popcorned1 on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:54
Yeah, Neowin even had an article on it.
#5.2 Amodin on 03 Jan 2009 - 14:54
BanneD said,
isn't benchmarking prohibited by NDA? if that's the case who wants to bet how long until this article gets removed?


Why, so Microsoft won't be embarrassed?

Benchmarking a beta, fresh out of alpha though isn't fair to the beta product. I mean, we don't want to have Windows 7 bashing the others so badly, so early that people actually have hope.
#5.3 BanneD on 03 Jan 2009 - 15:01
that happened before, with some MS product.... there was article here on Neowin with some pictures and stuff, but soon after MS contacted staff it was removed So, to be fair, i'll vote for... Wednesday for this to be deleted
#5.4 IceBreakerG on 03 Jan 2009 - 15:03
It's also why there aren't any numbers in this list. Just results. In this situation it doesn't really count as a "benchmark" because we don't know the actual numbers.
#5.5 creamhackered on 03 Jan 2009 - 15:05
It won't get removed. Someone else benchmarked it not us
#5.6 Julius Caro on 03 Jan 2009 - 16:19
creamhackered said,
It won't get removed. Someone else benchmarked it not us


When someone downloads a leaked version of.. let's say, WMP 10, and discusses it on the forum, that person is banned from neowin. But... "it's someone else who has downloaded a leaked version of something not yet officially released, not neowin".
Dont like the double standards!

#5.7 shockz on 03 Jan 2009 - 16:53
Julius Caro said,
When someone downloads a leaked version of.. let's say, WMP 10, and discusses it on the forum, that person is banned from neowin. But... "it's someone else who has downloaded a leaked version of something not yet officially released, not neowin".
Dont like the double standards!


What are you talking about? People are allowed to talk about pre-release software. We don't know where you got it.. for all we know you might be a beta tester. The only time we'll take action is if you explain how you got it illegally.
#5.8 Marshalus on 03 Jan 2009 - 18:16
If you would prefer we enforce every rule in all EULAs, then discussion in the forums would be pretty dull.
#5.9 vetmarkjensen on 03 Jan 2009 - 19:13
Marshalus said,
If you would prefer we enforce every rule in all EULAs, then discussion in the forums would be pretty dull.

Agreed. If I discuss Linux, I don't want anyone to force me to share my source code.

Although, on a serious side, EULA violations are a "civil" law matter; it is not a matter of "criminal" law. And that makes a big difference in legal liability.
#5.10 Marshalus on 03 Jan 2009 - 22:37
markjensen said,
Agreed. If I discuss Linux, I don't want anyone to force me to share my source code.

Although, on a serious side, EULA violations are a "civil" law matter; it is not a matter of "criminal" law. And that makes a big difference in legal liability.


Plus, their "no benchmarking" rule is stupid and I don't really give a damn about it anyway
#5.11 Chaks on 04 Jan 2009 - 00:59
BanneD said,
isn't benchmarking prohibited by NDA? if that's the case who wants to bet how long until this article gets removed?


I you read the ZDnet article again, you can see this note:

Important note: Before I go any further I feel I need to make a point, and make it clear. The build I’m testing of Windows 7 (build 6.1.7000.0.081212-1400) is a beta build, and as a rule beta builds are usually more geared towards stability than performance. That said, the performance of this build should give us a clue as to how the OS is coming along.
#5.12 dcoaster on 04 Jan 2009 - 01:30
Marshalus said,
markjensen said,
Agreed. If I discuss Linux, I don't want anyone to force me to share my source code.

Although, on a serious side, EULA violations are a "civil" law matter; it is not a matter of "criminal" law. And that makes a big difference in legal liability.


Plus, their "no benchmarking" rule is stupid and I don't really give a damn about it anyway


Then why the heck should anyone follow Apple's EULA about not installing OS X on anything but Apple hardware?
#5.13 vetmarkjensen on 04 Jan 2009 - 02:33
dcoaster said,
Then why the heck should anyone follow Apple's EULA about not installing OS X on anything but Apple hardware?

Neowin allows discussion of that.

Or were you not meaning to support the argument with your post?
#5.14 dcoaster on 04 Jan 2009 - 18:37
The fact that the Windows 7 EULA says you cannot benchmark the beta software is a rule just like in any other EULA. Apple's was the one I was referring to. In that EULA, it says that the OS may only be used on Apple hardware. Marshalus seems to think that breaking the MS EULA is alright, but Neowin and other forums go bonkers when someone posts in their forums: "How do I install OS X on my Dell?"
(1 reply) #6 vetSHoTTa35 on 03 Jan 2009 - 15:06
Hmm... not sure if any difference for me - feels about the same.
#6.1 cJr. on 03 Jan 2009 - 17:53
What feels about the same as what? Windows 7 feels about the same as Windows Vista and Windows XP?

Or are you just on about the different builds of Windows 7 (6953 and 7000)?
(2 replies) #7 darkmanx21 on 03 Jan 2009 - 16:34
Feels the same to me as 6956. Still does not keep my internet connection properly on my Intel 5100 WiFi..
#7.1 plastikaa on 04 Jan 2009 - 00:52
That will be a driver issue thought not so much Vista - theres a chance a different driver will completely solve the problem.
#7.2 Soldiers33 on 04 Jan 2009 - 17:33
plastikaa said,
That will be a driver issue thought not so much Vista - theres a chance a different driver will completely solve the problem.

i get that aswell, on windows 7 my internet connection keeps cutting off, and msn always sings out. so went back to vista for now, and everythin seems fine.
(1 reply) #8 Scorbing on 03 Jan 2009 - 16:34
It's still too early for this so-called tests. Wait until the final product is done, when it's all tweaked and optimized and then we can compare them all.
#8.1 darkmanx21 on 03 Jan 2009 - 16:44
Yeah, but don't you also think it's a good/great sign that a "beta" is already faster in some areas/in general.
#9 Typhon on 03 Jan 2009 - 16:45
Win7 Win7 Win7
#10 tiagosilva29 on 03 Jan 2009 - 18:28
Data tables in pictures? Holy accessibility, Batman!
(5 replies) #11 sweetsam on 03 Jan 2009 - 18:29
"ZDnet has benchmarked Windows 7 with its successors Windows Vista and Windows XP"

Isn't that suppose to be predecessors and not successors ?
#11.1 RudyJ on 03 Jan 2009 - 19:42
Yah, that's what I thought as well.
#11.2 Alkaif on 03 Jan 2009 - 21:10
lol ZDNET kinda fobbed out these days..
#11.3 Marshalus on 03 Jan 2009 - 22:38
Alkaif said,
lol ZDNET kinda fobbed out these days..


Actually I think that is our bad.
#11.4 Alkaif on 03 Jan 2009 - 23:45
Marshalus said,
Actually I think that is our bad.


oh in that case bad journalism skills..
#11.5 Marshalus on 04 Jan 2009 - 01:27
Alkaif said,
oh in that case bad journalism skills..


Mistakes are made, from time to time.
(2 replies) #12 Chosen One on 03 Jan 2009 - 18:32
Let's hope when it reaches RTM it's still in the same shape or even better.
#12.1 Steven77 on 03 Jan 2009 - 19:40
Chosen One said,
Let's hope when it reaches RTM it's still in the same shape or even better.


I didnt REALLY start getting into windows as an enthusiast until right before vista came out, but i heard during testing of vista/longhorn, that it was much faster until near the end.

I am pretty sure on the WIN7 blog they had an article about how this time around there are specific performance tests that every build has to go through to ensure that they are not "bloating" it up.
#12.2 +Brandon Live on 03 Jan 2009 - 20:58
Steven77 said,
I didnt REALLY start getting into windows as an enthusiast until right before vista came out, but i heard during testing of vista/longhorn, that it was much faster until near the end.


Hahaha, no. It was basically unusable during the betas...
#13 Sevan on 03 Jan 2009 - 18:51
Build 7000 works fine on my end.
#14 Izlude on 03 Jan 2009 - 19:59
7000 is good. and then some. + me
(7 replies) #15 +jzetterman on 03 Jan 2009 - 20:04
You said successors a lot in that article, I believe you meant predecessors though.
#15.1 excalpius on 03 Jan 2009 - 20:25
"Yes, he keeps using that word. I don't think he knows what it means." 8P
#15.2 Alkaif on 03 Jan 2009 - 21:11
lolz *english lessons*
#15.3 Glendi on 03 Jan 2009 - 21:33
lol well I guess he skipped checking that part... always double check what you write though >.>
#15.4 Marshalus on 03 Jan 2009 - 22:39
Please, feel free to submit a news article any time and then let our members rip every mistake you make. Thanks!
#15.5 rm20010 on 04 Jan 2009 - 08:34
Alkaif said,
lolz *english lessons*


Alkaif said,
oh in that case bad journalism skills..


Your 'english' and language skills would tell you to capitalize Oh, add a comma after Oh and case, and insert "it is" before bad.

Sincerely,
English nazi correcting a typo nazi


#15.6 Alkaif on 04 Jan 2009 - 10:15
rm20010 said,
Your 'english' and language skills would tell you to capitalize Oh, add a comma after Oh and case, and insert "it is" before bad.

Sincerely,
English nazi correcting a typo nazi


Irony much? zomg I just used a rhetoric...oh no he didn't?
#15.7 technikal on 04 Jan 2009 - 17:13
rm20010 said,
Your 'english' and language skills would tell you to capitalize Oh, add a comma after Oh and case, and insert "it is" before bad.

Sincerely,
English nazi correcting a typo nazi


don't be a spanker with "ize" endings.
(1 reply) #16 Titoist on 03 Jan 2009 - 22:09
While we are comparing Win 7 to XP, lets compare Win Vista to Win 98 SE... afterall, they are both the same time span apart. My point is that XP is soo old with such low requirements that it is not even worth comparing to next generation OS's.
#16.1 Majesticmerc on 04 Jan 2009 - 00:54
Titoist said,
While we are comparing Win 7 to XP, lets compare Win Vista to Win 98 SE... afterall, they are both the same time span apart. My point is that XP is soo old with such low requirements that it is not even worth comparing to next generation OS's.


The point is that Vista generally got it's ass kicked by XP, but Win7 beats them both hands down. Windows Vista wouldn't make such epic wins against Win98. I would also say that WinXP vs Win7 is more equivalent to WinVista vs Win2K, not 98.
#17 thertrain on 03 Jan 2009 - 22:09
I've been running Windows 7 beta on my iMac for a couple weeks now. It is definitely faster that Vista, installs easier and was able to install all my Mac hardware without the Bootcamp drivers, except for audio. It saved me quite a bit of time. It comes across as very similar to what Apple is doing with Snow Leopard, creating a faster and more efficient version of their current OS. I'm quite impressed.
(5 replies) #18 Raa on 03 Jan 2009 - 22:47
So installing XP is slower than Vista, or Windows 7? Hahahaha. mmhmm.
#18.1 Majesticmerc on 04 Jan 2009 - 00:55
It is. A Windows XP installation is horrendous!
#18.2 FrozenEclipse on 04 Jan 2009 - 01:01
Installing XP takes a good 5 minutes longer than Vista. Take off your Luna colored glasses for once in your life.
#18.3 Marshalus on 04 Jan 2009 - 01:28
FrozenEclipse said,
Installing XP takes a good 5 minutes longer than Vista. Take off your Luna colored glasses for once in your life.


5 minutes? On what planet? Vista install is MUCH faster then XP.
#18.4 Chaks on 04 Jan 2009 - 03:04
hmm...when was it last I installed XP...OMG - I cant even remember
#18.5 FrozenEclipse on 04 Jan 2009 - 06:10
Marshalus said,
5 minutes? On what planet? Vista install is MUCH faster then XP.


Isn't that essentially what I said? Or did you just mean that Vista's installation is even quicker than what I mentioned?
(1 reply) #19 Xavien on 03 Jan 2009 - 23:26
Running Windows 7 Beta 1 right now and it just feels a lot more snappier than vista, incredibly stable for a beta 1 too

Just need some decent windows 7 drivers and i would be ready to make it my main OS, and I'm a staunch defender of Windows XP.
#19.1 Marshalus on 04 Jan 2009 - 01:28
Xavien said,
Running Windows 7 Beta 1 right now and it just feels a lot more snappier than vista, incredibly stable for a beta 1 too

Just need some decent windows 7 drivers and i would be ready to make it my main OS, and I'm a staunch defender of Windows XP.


There is no beta 1, just beta. Next up is RC.
#20 Tikitiki on 04 Jan 2009 - 02:53
IIRC, it's against the Win7 TOS to post performance comparisons (until it's in final, I guess) but I doubt Microsoft would want to usher away these results

Seems pretty good - good job so far Microsoft Dev Teams
#21 bruNo_ on 04 Jan 2009 - 02:58
Can't wait to use Windows 7

[off] people flaming about mistakes on news is a REAL SHAME!!! are you guys human?? get a life [/off]
#22 LTD on 04 Jan 2009 - 09:11
Coming along nicely so far.

Last edited by LTD on 04 Jan 2009 - 16:19
#23 digitalsoft on 04 Jan 2009 - 15:18
very promising indeed! look forward to the RTM
#24 ThePitt on 04 Jan 2009 - 15:37
on that site bechmarks depends how much money is envolved.

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