Rumors are starting to fly out about a new iPhone coming in June. While the timeline seems accurate (Apple generally refreshes products around similar times of the year) it was almost a year ago that Apple announced Push notifications for the iPhone. Now eleven months later, where the hell is it?It's no secret that Apple missed its deadline of September for launching Push notifications and that the feature is still absent today. With a new iPhone or major software upgrade on the verge of being announced (for a June launch) an incredible but surprisingly plausible rumor has surfaced that makes perfect sense.
The idea is that for the software launch of 3.0 for the iPhone, Apple will introduce background application processes; you will be able to run more than one program at a time. The best part is that it is believed that Push notifications will be tied into these background processes so that programs like AIM can continue to run in the background until a "Push notification" is received. This makes perfect sense for why there has been such a long delay for the feature and it may be well worth the extra wait.
















Me too, all the usage of "hell" and bias makes the article a true front page winner.
Still no excuse for promising fall of '08 and still not delivering, but it really hasn't been "almost a year".
Of course, this is just a guess but companies do it all the time.
Like battery life. Having multiple apps open is great as long as there is enough power to do so. With the current iPod/iPhone the battery life sucks. Maybe they will make the battery life better...who knows.
Then again maby not ...
Apple's attention to other areas of the phone ,and its near dominance of the smartphone market in the span of only a year and a few months, demonstrates this. Consumers vote with their wallets. And they've decided what's important to them, and what features they consider to be front-line candidates in favour of purchase. And it sure isn't copy and paste or mms, like it or not.
There might be additional features we'd like to see on the iPhone. But this can be said of any phone. The iPhone, as the overall package that it is, is already a product that satisfies on a lot of levels. I don't think its strengths need explaining, since the rest of the industry is now trying to imitate them.
Copy and paste, push notifications, etc. are not make-or-break features. Especially in light of what else this revolutionary device has brought to the table. It has turned the entire industry on its ear and has forced everyone to up their game. These other little features will come, but I'm certainly in no rush to have them. Apple has shown us with frightening effectiveness that cramming a device full of features does not a good device make.
or at least letting apps run in the background. as an iPhone user i feel like i'm left hoping for a lot more to come in 3.0 after seeing what the Pre has to offer
That, along with apps running in the background, are certainly a couple things I've heard people asking from Apple. I'd mention battery life as well, but that goes without saying.
Nothing wrong with making a great phone even better, right?
- Applications coded in Javascript.
- No copy paste
- Crap camera that doesn't have autofocus
- Crap resolution for that screen size
- No front camera (not that big a deal tbh)
- No multitask apart from the music player
- No flash
- Dropped phone calls
- No memory card slot. Sure you say the iphone has 16gb internal. Oh but wait I can get 16gb microSD cards, and a 32gb one is in the works. And the cost of a 16gb microSD card? Oh only 40usd.
- No office (word/excel/powerpoint/onenote etc)
- No mms
- No push emails or notification =/
- No blackberry connect (sucks for enterprises that use Blackberry)
- Can't run apps not downloaded/purchased from the appstore unless you jailbreak
- Locked into a network that generally rips you off (unless of course you jailbreak). Sure most phones have that when you buy them from say ATT, but oh look all you have to do is phone up ATT and ask them for the unlock code, and they give it to you! Simple. Doesn't void your warranty, doesn't go against any EULA (not like I care about that tbh)...
So what revolutionary device were you talking about? HTC phones did all that and more even before the iPhone. Get yourself a custom rom, one of the billion available on xda, flash it and you get the speed etc. Want your windows mobile phone to look and run like an iphone, oh look you can do that too. Want it to look like the storm? yup can do that too. Want it to run android? Yup they're making that work.
Of random note my nokia and motorola from like 5 years ago had copy paste and the ability to multitask.
Theres absolutely nothing revolutionary about the iPhone, just huge amounts of hype and consumers that are stupid enough to believe everything Apple says in its ads.
Sure the iPhone outsold windows mobile the year it was first released. Oh but wait last year 4.5 million more windows mobile phones were sold. And with windows mobile 6.5 / 7 coming out soon enough that number will just increase.
And before you go omg the iPhone has multitouch, resistive touchscreens and touchpads have always supported multitouch. It's not a hardware issue, its quite simply a firmware/driver issue. Synaptics proved it by releasing a driver that does just that.
How about this, instead of making a multicore iphone that would have the battery life of like 10 seconds, why not add some, or even all, of those features.
Consumers don't vote with their wallets, they just vote with their tiny brains.
Last edited by /- Razorfold on 04 Feb 2009 - 00:26
I love how you make this seem like a non-issue though
Your not fooling anyone , It was the same with GPS first you said it wasn't needed then you do a complete 180 and say its Superior than whats on offer from copilot and tomtom . Rest assured if apple ever manages to get push working on the shiphone LTD will be the first one to turn around and tell everyone how important it is .
Just like he did when apple did a complete 180 with their mp3 player line and ripped the PDA concept .
I'm just explaining what the trend seems to be. Apple seems to be giving people exactly what they want. Same as with the iPod.
Now, if you think people want the wrong things, or they don't want enough, then that's a completely different matter - one that I think you'll have a difficult time arguing.
Aren’t you forgetting that Windows Mobile devices outsold Iphones this year by 4.5 million ?
So GPS wasn’t needed and then it was when it was added , I can guarantee you as soon as this situation is resolved you will turn around and say not only does the iphone support push email but it handles push better than other devices . Same as GPS same as everything else you jsut put a pro apple spin on things .
People want the wrong things ? i never said that im just pointing out that you are being a humongus hypocrite and your pro apple dribble makes no sense at all.
What it doesn't support is background applications, or push notifications to compensate for the lack of them. But Exchange works the way it would on any push-supporting phone.
Older phones won't be able to take push notifications or run apps in the background forcing you to upgrade your phone.
Older phones won't be able to take push notifications or run apps in the background forcing you to upgrade your phone.
Of course, companies do this all the time.
Copy and paste is a given. Hell, my Motorola non smart phone has copy/paste. Also, being able to run more than one App would be a GOOD THING for Apple. I mean, who wouldnt want to run more than one app?
Yes, it may not be make/break features but dude, this goes back to the issue you bitched about concerning support. you said, "those of use who pay top dollar expect nothing but the best support and to be treated like royalty" Granted, the quote is not word for word but it sums up what you said/meant in your posting a few days ago. So Apple promises its consumers something, and they didnt deliver. You spent several hundred bucks on an iPhone and are not getting what you were promised. There for you are not getting good support for the money and Apple is lying to you and not treating you right.
Think about it....
It just couldnt do what my old HTC Kaiser could , Like call my girlfriend with video or edit spreadsheats on the go hell i even had to write down the links i was being sent and type them in on the on screen keyboard which took a bloody age
Apple better up their game big time if they want to outsell windows mobiles this year
- No copy paste Jailbreak it
- Crap camera that doesn't have autofocus Camera is fine for me
- Crap resolution for that screen size You must have 100/20 vision
- No front camera (not that big a deal tbh) Yea i dont know anybody that uses the video conference stuff
- No multitask apart from the music player Jailbreak it
- No flash I wouldn't mind this
- Dropped phone calls I have never had a issue with dropped calls neither has any of my friends
- No memory card slot. Could be useful
- No office (word/excel/powerpoint/onenote etc) Jailbreak it/Appstore
- No mms Jailbreak it/Appstore
- No push emails or notification =/ Push email was added last year, notifications are not needed with backgrounder(runs apps in the background)
- No blackberry connect (sucks for enterprises that use Blackberry) don't need it
- Can't run apps not downloaded/purchased from the appstore unless you jailbreak wow are you that busy that you can not take 5 mins out of your day to jailbreak the phone.
- Locked into a network that generally rips you off ............................... you guessed it JAIL BREAK IT!!!
the iphone is a amazing phone, however it only comes alive once its jailbroken, there are 1000s of apps out there which are more powerful/interesting then the ones in the appstore because they don't have limitations.
- Crap camera that doesn't have autofocus: Any camera without autofocus is plain useless.
-Dropped phone calls :Apple updated not one but three times to solve this problem, and still there are people that suffer or missed/hanged calls.
Obviously, if some average consumer didn't know about jailbreaking, they'd be stuck.
Its funny because since the very first version of the software is able to do it, just there are not a frontend to activate it (but there are third party software that allow it). Also, by default there are some services running on background.
Mark my words, Apple already has a new Iphone in the pipeline "Iphone 2.1"
and they are going to sell it hand over fist to the Lemmings that have to have the newest
e-phallus.
Apple fixes software problems with updates, they don't add functions incrementally. They save them up, then
release them all together in a shiny new package and a 300 million dollar ad campaign.
Personally, I just think they are waiting for Steve Jobs to get back to release it. This company is going
to eventually die when his meter runs out. (not wishing it on him, but the company seems loathe to function without him now)
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