Exclusive: Windows Vista SP2 RC released to general public

(1 reply) #1 forcer on 04 Mar 2009 - 09:32

Is this a fix update or does it have features aswell?? are there any list of what's changed in this SP

#1.1 PatrynXX on 04 Mar 2009 - 22:08

forcer said,

Is this a fix update or does it have features aswell?? are there any list of what's changed in this SP

Was wondering why my windows update was showing up. Was busy and hadn't payed attention to it.

#2 ajua on 04 Mar 2009 - 09:33

I'm going to try it on my laptop at home before installing it on my main desktop.

Let's hope to see the performance increase, even a little bit. I'm not in dislike of the current performance, but a little more can't hurt, can it?

Thanks for the heads up.

Edit: i found this link which offers the standalone installer for Vista only: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en

Last edited by ajua on 04 Mar 2009 - 09:47

(2 replies) #3 SH3K0 on 04 Mar 2009 - 09:33

When will this be officially released without having the "beta" tag?

#3.1 +trag3dy on 04 Mar 2009 - 09:36

Don't quote me on this but I thought they said it was going to be in April? That's the month I remember reading about but I have absolutely no idea if that's true or not.

#3.2 SH3K0 on 04 Mar 2009 - 14:36

Cool, thanks for that :-)

(9 replies) #4 rakeshishere on 04 Mar 2009 - 09:34

Thanks to Neowin user UAC for the heads up

Ohh... the irony

If i am right,Sp2 also includes SP1 right? That means i can install SP2 without SP1 preinstalled and straight on Vista RTM. Wait for few more months and you get Windows 7 RC and you will happiest

#4.1 devHead on 04 Mar 2009 - 09:45

No, the SP2 requires that SP1 already be installed. This is what some people were griping about awhile back, but actually it will make the download size for it somewhat smaller.

#4.2 +xiphi on 04 Mar 2009 - 09:45

SP1 is prerequisite for SP2. So, no SP2 does NOT include SP1.

#4.3 .hasan on 04 Mar 2009 - 09:46

rakeshishere said,

Thanks to Neowin user UAC for the heads up

Ohh... the irony

If i am right,Sp2 also includes SP1 right? That means i can install SP2 without SP1 preinstalled and straight on Vista RTM. Wait for few more months and you get Windows 7 RC and you will happiest

you are correct you do not need to install sp1 before you install sp2

#4.4 pandu on 04 Mar 2009 - 10:08

.hasan said,

rakeshishere said,

Thanks to Neowin user UAC for the heads up

Ohh... the irony

If i am right,Sp2 also includes SP1 right? That means i can install SP2 without SP1 preinstalled and straight on Vista RTM. Wait for few more months and you get Windows 7 RC and you will happiest

you are correct you do not need to install sp1 before you install sp2

..
Hasan U have to install sp1 before u install sp2..

#4.5 +BeLGaRaTh on 04 Mar 2009 - 10:25

.hasan said,

rakeshishere said,

Thanks to Neowin user UAC for the heads up

Ohh... the irony

If i am right,Sp2 also includes SP1 right? That means i can install SP2 without SP1 preinstalled and straight on Vista RTM. Wait for few more months and you get Windows 7 RC and you will happiest

you are correct you do not need to install sp1 before you install sp2

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd335036.aspx

Setup prerequisites

There are only two prerequisites for installing SP2:

* Your operating system, Windows Server 2008 or Windows Vista must have Service Pack 1 installed.

noteNote
Windows Server 2008 shipped with Service Pack 1 built in.
* Users updating through Windows Update/WSUS must install an update to the servicing stack (described in knowledge base article 955430) that handles installation and removal of software updates, language packs, and optional Windows features. This update is necessary to successfully install and uninstall the service pack; it also improves the performance and reliability of the service pack installation. This update may require a reboot and is part of the standalone update package. It will be offered as a separate package on Windows Update. Users installing SP2 in standalone format will have this update built-in

#4.6 .hasan on 06 Mar 2009 - 01:32

oh didn't see that little tid bit

why not just include the whole thing like they usually do?

#4.7 Qun Mang on 06 Mar 2009 - 04:26

devHead said,

No, the SP2 requires that SP1 already be installed. This is what some people were griping about awhile back, but actually it will make the download size for it somewhat smaller.

Wonderful. Who made this brilliant decision? Seeing as SP1 will not install on my computer, I guess I won't be using SP2 either.

#4.8 xendrome on 06 Mar 2009 - 20:49

Wow, lol, your using Vista without SP1?... one... I feel bad for you.

two, obviously you have some other issue with your OS.. sounds like you need to do a reload and fix it.

#4.9 PGHammer on 12 Mar 2009 - 17:04

Qun Mang said,

Wonderful. Who made this brilliant decision? Seeing as SP1 will not install on my computer, I guess I won't be using SP2 either.

Why won't SP1 install?

Hardware issues? Software that is broken by SP1?

(My suspiscion is that it's likely software.)

(3 replies) #5 Pharos on 04 Mar 2009 - 11:41

People still use Vista? :-P

Edit. Kidding kidding

#5.1 Akaruz on 04 Mar 2009 - 12:55

Pharos said,

People still use Vista? :-P

Edit. Kidding kidding

Well somehow Vista does run better on my pc , i only use XP due to my tvcard

might buy vmware and run xp as virtual so i can remove the dual boot

#5.2 waruikoohii on 04 Mar 2009 - 14:47

Pharos said,

People still use Vista? :-P

Edit. Kidding kidding

People still use other OS's?

#5.3 toadeater on 05 Mar 2009 - 23:59

Akaruz said,

Well somehow Vista does run better on my pc , i only use XP due to my tvcard

might buy vmware and run xp as virtual so i can remove the dual boot

Make sure your TV card will run in vmware. Support for hardware acceleration in VMware is somewhat shoddy.

#6 artfuldodga on 04 Mar 2009 - 12:23

waiting for offical release, but you all go ahead and test it out

(5 replies) #7 jason13524 on 04 Mar 2009 - 12:57

I have downloaded and installed the above x86 version and once installed the version number is V113, is this correct?

#7.1 kazuyette on 04 Mar 2009 - 13:05

I confirm what you wrote.

#7.2 scratch42069 on 04 Mar 2009 - 13:37

jason13524 said,

I have downloaded and installed the above x86 version and once installed the version number is V113, is this correct?

The version number should be v286.

#7.3 Steven77 on 04 Mar 2009 - 14:09

Correct number should be 286, v113 is ancient.

#7.4 jason13524 on 04 Mar 2009 - 14:54

Steven77 said,

Correct number should be 286, v113 is ancient.

Hmm 113 is what I got from the above X86 link.

#7.5 +kpo6969 on 04 Mar 2009 - 18:15

v105 = SP2 beta 1
v113 = SP2 beta 2
v275 = SP2 RC1 "escrow build"
v286 = SP2 RC1

#8 Kathryn Scheller on 04 Mar 2009 - 14:19

Before publishing this information, does anyone actually check to see if the links point to the right item? The x86 link goes to an early Beta 6.0.6002.16497 that has a signature dated October 18, 2008. Does anyone have the real links to the latest release? It's disappointing that Neowin would provide such old links, when it only takes a few minutes to verify them as out of date.

Last edited by Kathryn Scheller on 04 Mar 2009 - 14:33

#9 acido00 on 04 Mar 2009 - 14:34

Finally! Finally! yessssssssssss

(1 reply) #10 Beast1979 on 04 Mar 2009 - 14:52

So does anyone have the real download links for v286? I can confirm this did install v113

#10.1 qwertz123 on 05 Mar 2009 - 23:50

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en

klick download, copy paste into a new document file called run.cmd (or sp2ccp.bat or whatevar) and save it, run it and enjoy.

thats what i did.

#11 +techbeck on 04 Mar 2009 - 15:01

I will wait until the final release. It is nice seeing MS releasing these things to the public. More people test, the more issues are found and addressed.

(1 reply) #12 sanriver12 on 04 Mar 2009 - 15:24

x64 link is still the beta be warned

#12.1 PGHammer on 12 Mar 2009 - 17:07

sanriver12 said,

x64 link is still the beta be warned

The link for x64 has been fixed (running it now). Like with SP1, there are ISO images (for offline installation) for 32/64-bit, five-language 32/64-bit installers, and the Kitchen Sink Edition all-language 32/64-bit installers. SP1 is *required*

(5 replies) #13 hjf288 on 04 Mar 2009 - 15:39

I cant install it because ive got korean language pack installed??

#13.1 Borimol on 04 Mar 2009 - 16:58

You can only install the Update if your system has the same language than the Update

#13.2 caguy24 on 04 Mar 2009 - 17:12

so remove it.. you clearly understand English.

#13.3 hjf288 on 04 Mar 2009 - 23:54

caguy24 said,

so remove it.. you clearly understand English.

I think ill skip i prefer native

#13.4 Doggis85 on 05 Mar 2009 - 23:08

Actually that's not entirely true. I have Norwegian Language pack, and all I had to do, was to install som updates, and received the RC through WinUpdate...

#13.5 Doggis85 on 05 Mar 2009 - 23:11

Here's the link you want...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en

It's supposed to support "all" 36 languages...

(1 reply) #14 caguy24 on 04 Mar 2009 - 17:16

Looks like the [< snipped > - CalumJR] OP screwed up the UAC's link. All those links are old, UAC's post links to the right one:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...=742620&hl=
1.31GB ISO, mount using daemon tools.
It gives you v286.

Last edited by CalumJR on 06 Mar 2009 - 06:36

#14.1 rakeshishere on 04 Mar 2009 - 19:08

Annoying UAC

#15 kiddingguy on 04 Mar 2009 - 19:50

how stable is it?

(2 replies) #16 While You Were Art on 04 Mar 2009 - 20:11

Haven't you guys upgraded to XP, yet?

I have read some bad reviews about SP2 slowing down machines, by which I mean computers with freshly installed Vista and SP1. Some games ran quite a bit faster but hard drive access times were worse than with SP1. I am going to hold off for a while, or at least until I have read some more reviews of the latest incarnation. My Vista sludge box is slow enough as it is, thank you.

#16.1 virtorio on 05 Mar 2009 - 22:15

While You Were Art said,

Haven't you guys upgraded to XP, yet?

I have read some bad reviews about SP2 slowing down machines, by which I mean computers with freshly installed Vista and SP1. Some games ran quite a bit faster but hard drive access times were worse than with SP1. I am going to hold off for a while, or at least until I have read some more reviews of the latest incarnation. My Vista sludge box is slow enough as it is, thank you.

Most likely due to the Windows Search index being rebuilt.

#16.2 qwertz123 on 06 Mar 2009 - 00:01

i can assure this: sp2 rc build makes the sun travel doubble the time around the world as opposed to gods will and now, though i like cocacola and such things, we have to die.

(1 reply) #17 oMikR0n on 04 Mar 2009 - 20:41

Weird! I installed this RC but since then my live messenger isnt starting. I run it with task manager and i think it exits in miliseconds

Anyone else having the same problem ?

#17.1 oMikR0n on 05 Mar 2009 - 16:44

its ok now. Solved! Thnx anyway

#18 ZombieFly on 05 Mar 2009 - 09:51

putting up links to the old version is just plain stupid. Come on guys

(1 reply) #19 ViperAFK on 05 Mar 2009 - 21:54

use the windows update method to get the latest versison. I have v286 via this method.

#19.1 Doggis85 on 05 Mar 2009 - 23:12

To enable WinUpdate download:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en

(1 reply) #20 Evolution on 05 Mar 2009 - 22:20

If v286 is RC1, then what's v645?

#20.1 qwertz123 on 06 Mar 2009 - 00:07

dunno but v666 sounds kool nonetheless,,,

(6 replies) #21 yakumo on 05 Mar 2009 - 22:33

Will uninstall be necessary when the RTM is out ?

#21.1 ViperAFK on 05 Mar 2009 - 22:41

Yes, you MUST uninstall when rtm is out, also you are supposed to wait one hour after uninstall (because various cleanup operations are running after the uninstall)

#21.2 yakumo on 05 Mar 2009 - 22:56

ViperAFK said,

Yes, you MUST uninstall when rtm is out, also you are supposed to wait one hour after uninstall (because various cleanup operations are running after the uninstall)

Thanks, I wanted to be sure that was not just for the beta.

#21.3 yakumo on 05 Mar 2009 - 23:10

yakumo said,

Thanks, I wanted to be sure that was not just for the beta.

looking forward to the final.

#21.4 qwertz123 on 06 Mar 2009 - 00:09

we in the germanz land would say then its time for the:

"holzhammr methode"

pronounced: format c:

#21.5 qwertz123 on 06 Mar 2009 - 00:10

qwertz123 said,

we in teh germanz land would say then its time for the:

"holzhammer methode"

pronounced: format c:

#21.6 qwertz123 on 06 Mar 2009 - 00:11

qwertz123 said,

we in teh germanz land would say then its time for the:

"holzhammer methode"

pronounced: format c:

wut? didnt i press edit?

note to myself: stop the spamming...

(3 replies) #22 FoxieFoxie on 05 Mar 2009 - 23:17

How's that exclusuive?

#22.1 Shiranui on 06 Mar 2009 - 00:10

Exclusive even.

Good question though, I had been planning to ask it myself.

I fear though that many people will forego SP2 and stick with the 7 preview until the final release.

#22.2 CalumJR on 06 Mar 2009 - 06:37

It's exclusive because we posted it first, as with all of our 'Exclusives'.

#22.3 +macf13nd on 06 Mar 2009 - 08:08

so there!

(2 replies) #23 ChrisJ1968 on 06 Mar 2009 - 16:32

I installed it on my laptop and it runs fine.

#23.1 ChrisJ1968 on 06 Mar 2009 - 17:34

whoops!, i did a restore. just wanted to test it out for a short time.

#23.2 artfuldodga on 06 Mar 2009 - 17:40

i hope you uninstalled it, and didn't do a system restore... otherwise you're prob f*cked when you install SP1 RTM, at which point windows may break but don't blame the OS

#24 Mr Spoon on 07 Mar 2009 - 10:03

I'll wait till WIndows Update wants me to install it.

#25 hardcracked on 09 Mar 2009 - 20:43

I wait SP2 final release

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