Just a quick reminder to Neowin users, both Windows XP and Office 2003 will leave mainstream support and enter extended support on April 14, 2009. This applies to the following Windows XP editions:- Windows XP Home
- Windows XP Pro 32-bit and 64-bit
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However, for ultra-low cost PCs like netbooks, Microsoft has set June 30, 2010 as the End-of-Sales date even though the general End-of-Sales date for Windows XP was February 28, 2009.
The last Service Pack for Office 2003, SP3 was released in September 2007. The Outlook 2003 Junk Email Filter will continue to receive updates with new junk email definitions through the end of the extended support phase.
The mainstream support phase for Microsoft products usually runs for 5 years after the release of the product. As per the Microsoft Support Lifecycle, mainstream support delivers free fixes for security patches and other bug fixes to everyone. Extended support delivers security updates to all users, but nonsecurity hot fixes are to be provided only to companies that have signed support contracts (purchase of Extended Hotfix Support Agreement and per-fix fees) with Microsoft. Self-help online support will continue to be available for a minimum of 12 months after the product reaches the end of its support lifecycle.
Extended support for both Windows XP and Office 2003 ends on April 8, 2014.
DOS works fine too. Your point?
If you will say: "XP has is much better GUI." Well, same for Vista, Vista/Win 7 has much better GUI. Your point?
If you will say: "XP has is much better GUI." Well, same for Vista, Vista/Win 7 has much better GUI. Your point?
Vista doesn't have a "better" GUI. BTW, XP can be made to look and act just like Vista as well.
Wrong. XP GUI is NOT GPU-Hardware accelerated.
To a certain extent. As they say, "always imitated, but never duplicated."
You can make the UI look like Vista, but some of the UI clumsiness in XP cannot be wiped away (i.e. all those balloons for wireless networks).
Show me where Microsoft says they'll support Windows indefinitely?
When you purchase Microsoft Windows - you are purchasing upfront a set period of support; you're not just buying a license, you're also buying a support contract. Quite frankly, 13 years support for a product that's around NZ$200 is pretty damn good value to the point that's making Microsoft executives cry.
If you will say: "XP has is much better GUI." Well, same for Vista, Vista/Win 7 has much better GUI. Your point?
It is not just the fact that XP has a better GUI than DOS, its that XP supports a lot larger range of applications than DOS. Vista and Windows 7 may have better GUIs than XP (I run the beta and have Vista Ultimate at home btw and love the new GUI). However, the true can't be said about the number of applications available for Vista/7 over XP. And it is the applications that people actually DO on their computer (not play with the OS eye candy).
If you will say: "XP has is much better GUI." Well, same for Vista, Vista/Win 7 has much better GUI. Your point?
It is not just the fact that XP has a better GUI than DOS, its that XP supports a lot larger range of applications than DOS. Vista and Windows 7 may have better GUIs than XP (I run the beta and have Vista Ultimate at home btw and love the new GUI). However, the true can't be said about the number of applications available for Vista/7 over XP. And it is the applications that people actually DO on their computer (not play with the OS eye candy).
Um... If you still got apps which don't work with Vista, I would drop them. Why? Seems like they are not under active development anymore...
XP is a stable and matured code base. I doubt the same could be said of vista or windows 7. In addition, all new hardware will run perfectly on it for years to come because of its huge install base.
Notice how after each version of Windows, there are less service packs released?
Only since 2004. XP was an unusable mess until SP2, which was almost an entirely new OS, akin to Windows 98SE, fixed up that shipwreck of an OS.
I use WinXP and also Office 2003, hope they decide to extend support and also release Office 2003 SP4 as its been over 18months since SP3 was released and there's alot of updates on windows update to download each time i format
yesterday I Installed the newest Ubuntu 8.10 and I got 184 updates after a clean install :-(
I think they should extend the support indefinitely just because it's easily the best OS they've ever done, period!
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We're now 8 years since release. Eight YEARS.
Windows Server 2003 has long been at SP2, do you ever bother visiting Windows Update or use Automatic Updates!?
I know SP2 exists I was just saying SP1 is going unsupported.
I look forward to Windows 7 after trying twice to migrate to Shista (AKA Vista) and having a really bad time with it (I really do understand why it's been so unpopular, so many things I had problens with - not to mention the constant "not repsonding" issue which so many of my friends put up with)
Thanks MS for XP, lets hope you do it right with Windows 7 and we can't step over Shista.
Less than 12 months, Dell XPS720, 4GB Ram, 2TB HD, Quad-Core etc etc - not a low spec.
Fact is, XP with SP3 is FASTER than Vista on any PC
Fact is, XP with SP3 is FASTER than Vista on any PC
Except that's NOT a fact. Vista SP1 > XP SP3 on my hardware. Try again, kid.
Poor business sense by MS making their customers hate them. $hort term fix but long term harm for the company imo.
Poor business sense by MS making their customers hate them. $hort term fix but long term harm for the company imo.
That's your opinion about Vista. Granted, it's the opinion of a lot of people, but it's largely influenced by the media. If you're criticizing it, I have to assume you've already used it.
Yep. I've done the same. I've had very few problems with Vista... actually, less than I have with XP.
WTF, We'll have Windows 8 and Office 15 by then and who knows may even be beta tested Windows 9 and Office 16.
Move on for god sake and get with the times.
Windows 8? We don't even have Windows 7 yet. Hello!
And that's why he talks about basing it on their current development cycle plans.
How about I except using it 'casu it works just fine and I'm not shelling out another load of cash MS doesn't deserve. How would that be? :|
Enlighten us, oh great one!
About what? It's a pretty obvious and impartial comment.
A) It's my prerogative to continue using their last acceptable operating system. B) Some of us don't have the good fortune to purchase a new computer with a new operating system. C) As pointed out, Windows XP is still the most popular operating system so why not support it (rhetorical question)?
Unfortunately we know why they aren't going to support it; because they want to force people into getting Windows 7 so that they get their reputation back (since Vista is what can only be described as a flop).
Anyway, I have five months of using an unsupported operating system and then am sorted with a Macintosh. I just wish the timing could have been better.
Unfortunately we know why they aren't going to support it; because they want to force people into getting Windows 7 so that they get their reputation back (since Vista is what can only be described as a flop).
Anyway, I have five months of using an unsupported operating system and then am sorted with a Macintosh. I just wish the timing could have been better.
Dumb troll, GTFO.
P.S. Yeah Mac is perfect for you.
P.S. Yeah Mac is perfect for you.
Ha! Well aren't you an educated fella. I feel I must follow your advice now. Thank you for your great insight.
Edit: Correct typo.
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Vista was only a flop from a marketing standpoint. They made it out to be an OS it wasn't, until subsequent patches and updates (i.e. SP1) fixed up 99% of the common issues people have. If some people are still complaining to this day, then they either A) Haven't used Vista since their initial 1 day venture in early 2007, or B) They themselves are the problem.
Basically a huge prep for W7. Yeah, screw you I'm calling it W7... it'll catch on and spread like wildfire.
pwned, now you know how windows 2000 users feel like.
*just tried with them, they're all still there. But ya, don't even expect future security updates if Microsoft is going to treat XP anything like their older OS's.
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pwned...
you would lose all update except security updates which they would support for the next five years
I going to sit with XP as the my main system. W7 seems about 20% slower on my setup.
Do not worry Vista/7/M$ fanboys! The next laptop that I will buy in a few years will have W7/Vista x64 on by default.
I going to sit with XP as the my main system. W7 seems about 20% slower on my setup.
Do not worry Vista/7/M$ fanboys! The next laptop that I will buy in a few years will have W7/Vista x64 on by default.
i call VS then that you cliam windows 7 is 20% slower on your system when you have not posted your system specs.
also so what if ther is no application XP can run that does not need vista so what . i bet i could find a host of applications from 2004 that don't need windows XP to run and only require windows 98se so your Point being.
finally ditch the 8 year Old based on 14 year old technology and get with the program . i just installed for a 2nd system for a friend windows 7 beta on a AMD athlon XP 1800+ system running 1gig ram and a 6600 graphics card from nvidia on an nforce 2 and everything works great hell he is able to run HL2 and run it 24FPS more with windows 7 then he does windows XP with SP2 and SP3 tho SP3 did give him 8FPS more still windows 7 runs alot better on that system being as it was made to get the most of your hardware and more efficient at the same task in the background or so.
It is all about technology and since windows 7 is based on the same under working pluming set that runs vista it is far more hardware capable then XP is no matter if a Developer makes a driver for XP for the hardware or not.
I going to sit with XP as the my main system. W7 seems about 20% slower on my setup.
Do not worry Vista/7/M$ fanboys! The next laptop that I will buy in a few years will have W7/Vista x64 on by default.
Yes, because the opinion of someone who recommends disabling Automatic Updates in their XP optimization guide really holds any weight. Get over yourself.
Um, no.
for one
vista/7 is more secure then XP is
not mentioning better stability
..but in the home I use Vista, and I like it. I've never had a BSOD. I have had the odd graphichs driver crash (Nvidia), but Vista just goes black for a few seconds then its back up and running, superb!. I used to be one of those, "ewww vista sucks!" but after using it I actually like it, as for windows 7 I can't wait for the release as I would happily pay for the upgrade!
Its a matter of time when people will take notice about it and will start demanding a change in the bad business practices of MS.
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