Since a technical preview version of Office 2010 leaked barely a day ago it seems to have spread to anyone and everyone, despite a limited official technical preview scheduled for July. We already knew that Office 2010 will ship in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions (and the technical preview was leaked in both these flavours) and earlier this week it was confirmed that it will run on Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista and Windows 7 as well.Robert McLaws is one of the many who has downloaded and installed the leaked build on Windows 7, and has discovered that parts of the Office suite have been optimised for Windows 7 by utilising the new jump lists feature. Here you can see Outlook 2010 taking advantage of it by using a jump list to provide a list of useful tasks.
[Image source: Robert McLaws]
The jump list will surely come in handy by providing quick links to Outlook's four main functions - your email, calendar, contacts and tasks - and to create a new message or entry for each of these tools. By dragging a file from the jump list of another application onto the navigation pane in Outlook it automatically opens the compose email window with that file as an attachment. The taskbar icon for Outlook also shows you when you have have a new email message as you can see in this image, taken recently at the TechEd 2009 keynote.
[Image source: TechRadar]
From what we can tell, the jump lists of other programs in the Office 2010 will offer the usual list of recent and pinned files. If you are tempted to try out the leaked Office 2010 Technical Preview version then be aware: we've been tipped off that the build won't run as well as it should as it is still an earlier version of the code that will be used in the official Technical Preview which should be available in July.
They should be able to. Otherwise I'm sure developers will kick up a storm about it :p I'm sure I heard something about an API being available, though I'm not 100% on that, sorry.
windows live messenger already does, just the added "menu" is in start menu hover over it to see it
Yes. Microsoft has even developed "helper code" for .NET to assist in this:
http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/WindowsAPICodePack
Yes, this happened a lot in Vista, I'm sure history will repeat itself, except Windows 7 has many new features for programs to be optimize for.
Each version of Office for Windows was optimized for the *flagship* Windows flavor at the time (Office 95 for Windows 95, Office 97 for NT 4.0, Office 2000 for Windows 2000, etc.); all the better to encourage *tag-team* deployments of Windows and Office together. This is not even CLOSE to being the first time that betas of Office and Windows have overlapped (the first Office 95 TAP consisted entirely of Windows 95 beta-testers). Therefore, the surprising thing would have been that Office 2010 were NOT optimized for Windows 7.
Ah, I see. I really didn't know that. It makes sense.
It's still not really optimisation, more taking advantage of features in a new OS and quite frankly, shouldn't we expect it to? I really don't see how this is news unless we're going see other programs being "optimised" for windows 7 on here..
Yes, the new jump list alone doesn't make it optimised.
However, it's only a Tech Preview, so there may come more, actual optimisations for Win7.
It's news because it's new; something which hasn't been done in Office suite before. Isn't that one of the definitions of news? - something which is new and hasn't been done before? I think it is...
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Optimizations for a specific version of Windows are far from being new for Office; in fact, *every* version of Office for Windows has optimizations specific to the *flagship* flavor of Windows at the time. (This has, in fact, nearly gotten Microsoft in hot water more than once with the Justice Department; Microsoft's Information Worker business unit [which is directly responsible for Office] had been accused of using undocumented system calls in Office to execute those optimizations. That case fell apart when it was pointed out that not only were the system calls that Office used extremely well-documented, but that Microsoft didn't even wholly own the Foundation Classes on which the calls were based [back then, as is the case today, Microsoft is simply one party that has rights to the Windows Foundation Classes].) So it *has* been done before, and in Office; in fact, it's actually quite typical for Office.
Aye! Look up the definition of "optimized".
isnt optimize "make better"? such a small feature doesnt necessarily make it better. "adapted to windows 7" or something like that is what im talking about. when I read "office 2010 optimized for windows 7" i understand that it runs better on windows 7, but i doubt that is the case. and by reading other comments i think some people agree with me.
I meant Microsoft Office has not taken advantage of the jump lists in Windows 7 before. It hasn't, right?
That's what I mean when I say this is news, because it is new and has never been done before.
Whether people agree with you or not is irrelevant. Look up the definition of optimized. Changing something to make use of a feature in something else amounts to optimization.
Considering that half the comments on this article are discussing wether or not the word is correct there, I'd say it is relevant.
1. To make as perfect or effective as possible.
2. Computer Science To increase the computing speed and efficiency of (a program), as by rewriting instructions.
3. To make the most of.
for #1, you can't measure perfectness on a computer program. for #2, that's not what the article is talking about. #3 would be the only one that would fit, but it's jumplists we're talking about, hardly something that would make office on windows7 better than on other windows.
besides, if we are in a "computer science" context, there's no point in using other meanings.
1. To make as perfect or effective as possible.
2. Computer Science To increase the computing speed and efficiency of (a program), as by rewriting instructions.
3. To make the most of.
for #1, you can't measure perfectness on a computer program. for #2, that's not what the article is talking about. #3 would be the only one that would fit, but it's jumplists we're talking about, hardly something that would make office on windows7 better than on other windows.
besides, if we are in a "computer science" context, there's no point in using other meanings.
A lot of words have multiple definitions. The use of the word "optimized" is correct since two of the definition fits. The use of jump-lists in Windows 7 makes Office 2010 "as effective as possible." Also, Office 2010 is making the most of Windows 7 by using a feature unique to Windows 7. I could even go as far as saying that using the jump-lists feature makes Office 2010 more efficient than its Windows Vista/XP counterparts.
Not sure why Calum is arguing about it being newsworthy. Maybe some people may not find it to be that, but if you guys want to report on it, that's fine. My only beef is how you're going about saying it. Though, I guess if the title said,"Office 2010 Makes Use of Jumplists", people would probably say, "Well, spluh..." and move along.
Oh, does your Outlook 2010 have the feature where it recognizes names in an email and when you click on them it shows the contact info??? I've seen that in screenshots but it's not in the leaked version
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office 2010 unoptimized for the rest of windows.
Just because Vista doesn't have jumplists doesn't mean 2010 will perform worse on it.
Fail
Just because Vista doesn't have jumplists doesn't mean 2010 will perform worse on it.
Fail
There ya go.
Just because Vista doesn't have jumplists doesn't mean 2010 will perform worse on it.
Fail
True. Who said it would perform worse in Windows Vista? Simply because it's optimized for Windows 7 doesn't mean it'll perform better (as in faster). It means it'll make use of features in Windows 7 that aren't in Windows Vista or Windows XP. And one of those features is jump-lists.
It's definitely optimized to use features of Windows 7.
Um.
Fail?
It's definitely optimized to use features of Windows 7.
Yes, but it also works just as well as any previous Microsoft Office suite on Windows XP (SP3) and Windows Vista. It may even run faster on those operating systems for all anyone knows...
It's definitely optimized to use features of Windows 7.
Um.
Fail?
Unless you can point out how said optimization makes it work worse on Vista he's right.
When I read the article title I thought that Office 2010 had better performance on Windows 7 than on Vista or XP.
It's still pretty sweet tho, I hope more developers take advantage of this...
However, I'm sure Microsoft will optimize many things like performance and other things when run in Windows 7.
They should!, Powepoint is an example, I'm still dreaming with a Powerpoint using WPF or something similar.
It just means Office 2010 utilizes a new feature in 7 to its advantage. Big whoop. Stop whining.
that is not the meaning of optimized!! when it comes to software you use the word optimization to refer to raw performance.
Well, "optimized" is a lot different than "takes advantage of". I can "understand" what the title really meant, but i still find it incorrect.
I agree with LiquidSolstice, let's all get over it.
Any info on what's new and how its working? I'm thinking of installing it on a laptop tomorrow. Thanks.
tr.v. op·ti·mized, op·ti·miz·ing, op·ti·miz·es
1. To make as perfect or effective as possible.
2. Computer Science To increase the computing speed and efficiency of (a program), as by rewriting instructions.
3. To make the most of.
Unless Office 2010 is slower than Office 2007, I'd say it fits all 3 of the meanings for the definition of optimized.
I never said that was the meaning of the word "optimized". You are incorrect. When it comes to software, or anything for that matter, you use the word "optimized" to in place of "make the most of" or "make as effective as possible".
At least for OneNote. It's awesome.
Quoted from the article with a minor change for clarification.
does it have timebomb ? like windows beta that is.
It actually is optimized, the startup speed compared to office 2007 is a lot quicker.
Using x64 Version of Office on my X64 Win 7 RC
yeap ofc !
the best thing simce WWII !!! :rollingeyes:
I bet it won't.
I bet FrozenEclipse is right.
its optimized for 7 with the glass and jumplists
Glass and jumplist has nothing to do with performance.
XP runs Office 2007 faster then Vista.
thanks for the link I can use it now
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