Microsoft has revealed a few more details about Windows 7 E, the version of their next operating system that will be released in Europe without Internet Explorer. The information is primarily focused at developers who may be affected when creating applications that use Internet Explorer based controls but also provides some more general information.The details, posted on the Windows 7 for Developers blog, reveal that using Windows 7 E will be similar to using the full version of Windows 7 but with the Internet Explorer component disabled. This is also how they suggest that developers can test their software for compatibility with Windows 7 E, as builds of it are currently unavailable to testers. However, regardless of which version of Windows 7 you are using and whether you have Internet Explorer enabled or not, Microsoft report that "[t]he Internet Web Platform components (for example, WebOC) are still installed and available" as they are built into the Windows core.
Microsoft has also been carrying out their own compatibility tests with Windows 7 E. These tests found that "the vast majority of applications work on Windows 7 E editions without any changes. This includes applications that use many of the Internet Web Platform embedding methods (including WebBrowser control, hosting Trident, and HTML Help)." The blog post lists more details about three different types of incompatibilities found and includes some solutions and code samples to help developers overcome these issues.
There is also confirmation that the various editions of Windows 7 E will be available on MSDN at the same time as the standards editions of Windows 7. This is expected to be shortly after the RTM, however soon that may come. If you end up running Windows 7 E and an OEM has not already installed Internet Explorer on your PC then you will still have the chance if you want to install it yourself using the Internet Explorer 8 Feature Pack for Windows 7 E. This will be available sometime after Windows 7 becomes generally available on October 22 through the Microsoft Download Center, presuming that you have another browser installed to access it with.
"Irregardless" is not a word.
Simply making a point, not starting an argument. Changed it anyway though
You should have used "despite" instead.
Anyways I'll report it using the report function.
EDIT...Just realised it's been changed. My apologies.
Last edited by lee26 on 13 Jul 2009 - 16:37
You should have used "despite" instead.
Anyways I'll report it using the report function.
EDIT...Just realised it's been changed. My apologies.
Since when has the OED been the end all be all final decision point? MW says it is indeed a word. General acceptance is irrelevant, er, not relevant. LOL Just like the word "ain't" is technically and grammatically incorrect, yet used and sadly accepted pretty much anywhere.
The OED are explicit in their assertion that they do not attempt to have every word and that the omission of a word from the OED is not a claim by them that the word does not exist.
Without wishing to extend this discussion of language too much further: this is in no way true, unless you're playing Scrabble. We're not playing Scrabble.
There is no legal authority for the English language.
We have "regard" and we have "Regardless", which means there is no regard involved, so what's "irregardless"? Regarding the lack of regard?
Well you are wrong but who cares really.
If you look it up in the cambridge dictionary it states it as being an american word meaning "despite of".
Like I said, who cares?
"Irregardless" is not a word.
It is a word. It's nonstandard, but indeed a word nonetheless (according to both Random House Unabridged and the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition).
[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless]
If you look it up in the cambridge dictionary it states it as being an american word meaning "despite of".
Like I said, who cares?
When in doubt, always fall back on the "I win you lose" statement.
OF COURSE it makes sense, or wouldn't be on any dictionary. Did you guys skip 9th grade? Don't you know that you can form words using prefixes and sufixes? I® - regard - less
What's the problem here? There are better alternatives (despite), yes, but it's no reason at all to start this bitchfight (see, I just created a word)
Drop the "ir".
As for the article, when it becomes available on MSDN, will that be the final version?
So, do we have to pay extra for this version and can we get it in the US? They could call it Windows 7 Secure. Ha, just kidding, ie is great, really it is...
Does that mean you can simply enable it in the Add/Remove Software preference pane?
See http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/03/04/i...re-in-windows-7 for more info
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/e_preview.asp
The relevant screenshot is the last one. You'll notice there is no Internet Explorer option, as there is in a standard W7 install.
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/e_preview.asp
The relevant screenshot is the last one. You'll notice there is no Internet Explorer option, as there is in a standard W7 install.
Correct. According to the article an Internet Explorer 8 Feature Pack will be available to restore the browser to the system. That would be for those that want it.
PS C
Connected to releases.geo.mozilla.com.
220 Welcome to mozilla.isc.org.
User (releases.geo.mozilla.com
331 Please specify the password.
Password:
230 Login successful.
ftp>
250 Directory successfully changed.
ftp>
200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
150 Here comes the directory listing.
-rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 7936736 Jun 24 19:46 Firefox Setup 3.5.exe
-rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 194 Jun 24 19:52 Firefox Setup 3.5.exe.asc
226 Directory send OK.
ftp: 162 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 162000.00Kbytes/sec.
ftp>
200 Switching to Binary mode.
ftp>
200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for Firefox Setup 3.5.exe (7936736 bytes).
226 File send OK.
ftp: 7936736 bytes received in 25.48Seconds 311.45Kbytes/sec.
ftp>
221 Goodbye.
PS C
Now firefox setup is on your pc, install and download IE8, simple euh???
Now if Microsoft puts IE8 on a ftp server it would be easier!!!!
firefox - releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest/win32/en-GB/
opera - ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/##/en (## follow latest version number)
safari - ????
IE8 - ???
Last edited by SolwayUK on 13 Jul 2009 - 17:21
sorry?....
i was using powershell, but same applies in CMD
puting the exe on a cd or other media will just outdated quickly, simple and straight form the source
Why you gotta get all technical on us?
lol
Wow, really? Microsoft has seen sense and started distributing firefox from windows update? I guess they were serious about becoming more secure ;-)
Because setup files on media get outdated quickly - what happens if you don't have access to another pc?
printing out the simple instructions and leaving them in your dvd case, simple, quick and easy.
hmm im on xp now... sorry but my win7 E edittion hasn't come in the post yet.. maybe the postman has nicked it.
true, lol
but what about genuine checker, lol
Well, you might buy it, if you are interested in higher security. Having one less component on the system, the one were most exploits are installed, second only to outlook, would be a huge security bonus. I mean, you don't need ie on a server, do you?
1. W7 is not a server OS, it is a client OS
2. IE8 has less secunia advisories than Firefox
3. There has been no serious security advisories that work with protected mode on (by default in Vista)
IE8 is actually very secure. Nothing wrong with it.
The only components of IE that aren't installed with the E edition is the stuff in the Internet Explorer folder. Those files are ONLY a shell to hold the rendering engine. I can manually delete that folder and it doesn't do squat for security.
In Europe, everybody has to buy the 'E' version. There is no other choice.
Now if we also could choose which components to install that would be great.
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