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Microsoft's MSN Video Player is now live, streaming TV shows

Tom Warren   on 03 August 2009 - 14:50 · 49 comments & 9136 views

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As promised, Microsoft has now launched MSN Video Player, its latest venture into the video on demand market.

MSN Video Player is now available as a free online beta to those in the UK. MSN Video Player is available exclusively in the UK and offers over 300 hours of free content from both BBC worldwide and producer All3Media, responsible for shows like peep show and shameless. Microsoft is running a 6 month trial of the player during which time Ashley Highfield, Microsoft's managing director and vice president of consumer and online, claims that the company has sold out of its advertising space to fund the MSN Video Player.

The idea behind the video player is not to compete with the BBC's iPlayer or Channel 4's OD but to complement the services and offering backdated programming. In an interview with the BBC Microsoft's Highfield claims "we cover everything from a few months ago to a few years ago. This is bringing all the programs together in one place. It's going to be a one stop shop for recent and older classic British television."

Programs are currently streamed in Flash and it's rumoured that Microsoft plans to use Silverlight in the future. British viewers can currently choose from classics like Peep show, Bottom and Shameless.

View: MSN Video Player


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(7 replies) #1 master2k27 on 03 Aug 2009 - 14:55
Flash odd, should be Silverlight.
#1.1 +TCLN Ryster on 03 Aug 2009 - 15:04
master2k27 said,
Flash odd, should be Silverlight.

Original Article said,
Programs are currently streamed in Flash and it's rumoured that Microsoft plans to use Silverlight in the future.

#1.2 Jugalator on 03 Aug 2009 - 15:16
Flash works great for this kind of service, and more already have it installed.
#1.3 Dead'Soul on 03 Aug 2009 - 15:19
customers will prefer flash against silverlight.
#1.4 MioTheGreat on 03 Aug 2009 - 16:44
Jugalator said,
Flash works great for this kind of service, and more already have it installed.


The CPU load of flash for this kind of service is generally inexcusable. I wouldn't call that working great.
#1.5 Beastage on 03 Aug 2009 - 17:02
Customers will use what ever brings the better experience, almost everyone have silverlight now.
#1.6 GP007 on 03 Aug 2009 - 18:45
Keeping it as Flash for now probably saved them time in redoing the videos. I have no doubt they'll switch this over to silverlight in time.

#1.7 Majesticmerc on 04 Aug 2009 - 11:21
majesticmerc said,
Its also possible that the BBC requested the use of flash to complement the use of flash in the iPlayer. It could be confusing to users if they watched a program on iPlayer one day using Flash, but then had to download Silverlight to watch previous episodes on MSN.


I doubt that Microsoft opted for Flash (I REALLY doubt it), but the BBC probably said that they wouldn't re-encode the videos, or want them re-encoded
(1 reply) #2 whoreman on 03 Aug 2009 - 15:07
"Microsoft is running a 6 month trial of the player during which time Ashley Highfield, Microsoft's managing director and vice president of consumer and online, claims that the company has sold out of its advertising space to fund the MSN Video Player."

What does this mean?
#2.1 +Kirkburn on 03 Aug 2009 - 16:48
whoreman said,
"Microsoft is running a 6 month trial of the player during which time Ashley Highfield, Microsoft's managing director and vice president of consumer and online, claims that the company has sold out of its advertising space to fund the MSN Video Player."

What does this mean?

It should mean all the available advertising space has been sold. I think it's just a general good sign, rather than a funding requirement, though.
(7 replies) #3 Jugalator on 03 Aug 2009 - 15:24
Rahhhh!!

#3.1 Jugalator on 03 Aug 2009 - 15:26
Of course, this isn't a complaint about Microsoft, it's a frustration over TV channels never learning.
#3.2 Tom W on 03 Aug 2009 - 15:29
Yeah it's a shame. We have the same when it comes to Hulu
#3.3 +DonC on 03 Aug 2009 - 16:54
Plays fine for me, but then I'm in the UK.

It's more about the policy of the BBC licence rather than MSN though.
#3.4 cerealfreak on 03 Aug 2009 - 18:04
Tom W said,
Yeah it's a shame. We have the same when it comes to Hulu


there are easy ways into the hulu service such as using hotspot shield, nice free little proxy apps for those of us based here in the UK, for you guys in the US sorry never needed to proxy home so I can't help. Initially it looks good offering a back catalogue is a great idea, need to test some capturing software though see how it fairs, I think Silverlight would be better for HD but just checked an episode of "bottom" (quality I know) on my 26"LCD HDTV main monitor (yeah I hate me too) and it's fine, Woohoo being in the UK has been good for once
#3.5 +macf13nd on 03 Aug 2009 - 18:57
I thought that hotspot was explosed / excluded now?
#3.6 Jugalator on 03 Aug 2009 - 19:53
Tom W said,
Yeah it's a shame. We have the same when it comes to Hulu

Yes, and we don't even have Hulu. It sucks to not live in either US or UK in these cases. And I don't get why they couldn't finance these things with ads for the rest of the world? *shrug* Why avoid the exposure? Sure, maybe not as popular in non-English countries, but guess what -- that means less bandwidth costs implied from these countries too!
#3.7 cerealfreak on 03 Aug 2009 - 20:43
macf13nd said,
I thought that hotspot was explosed / excluded now?



not as far as I'm aware works fine for me??
(2 replies) #4 mocax on 03 Aug 2009 - 15:59
oh msn is still around?

then what's windows live??
#4.1 ricknl on 03 Aug 2009 - 16:02
MSN is content provider. Windows Live is Live services from Microsoft that will gradually integrate with Windows even more over the years.
#4.2 Electric Bolt on 03 Aug 2009 - 20:16
You should know by now that Microsoft originally wasn't sure what their roadmap was with Windows Live, they were wowed by it too at the time. Well now they are coming to a conclusion and are shutting down many services MSN powers such as Soapbox. They also shutdown Windows Live Expo. They even renamed Windows Live QnA to MSN QnA and then shut it down. So the branding disaster has ended for now, Windows Live Search was to provide ways of finding information, which is why some products were branded as it.

I believe Windows Live QnA was set out to help Bing behind the scenes. Many people used that service while it was always in beta, and Microsoft said it helped them with the feedback and information. I believe the decision engine was designed from what people are looking for on the Internet, the questions and answers on the Windows Live QnA site were being studied by people at Microsoft so they could figure out what Bing should have to help people find information. When MSN QnA closed, it said you could check out Bing for information. People asked questions, for example, how long a cold could last for and how to get rid of it fast. Microsoft designed Bing to provide helpful information as an answer to the question, thanks to studying the Windows Live QnA beta. So now the many services from Live Search have been made available on Bing and some have even integrated itself into the decision engine such as QnA Beta.

So while some services shutdown, they shutdown for the survival of Bing. When this time came, Windows Live had changed a little, the roadmap was only for services that integrate into Windows and make the experience better. Microsoft had fixed the problem where they thought Windows Live was their solution by rebranding MSN to Windows Live, instead they made the two families separate. MSN provides content, it keeps it's original look, and will provide news and videos, etc. Windows Live is a suite of services that make your Windows experience better by providing a connection with people using Windows whether that would be by IMing them, emailing them, showing pictures to them, etc. Bing is an information source that gives you information to what you searched for. Bing will never become Windows Live or take it's services away.


Windows Live Messenger
Windows Live Hotmail
Windows Live Mail
Windows Live Photo Gallery
Windows Live Movie Maker
Windows Live Writer
Windows Live Family Safety
Windows Live Spaces
Windows Live Photos
etc......

MSN Homepage
MSN Video Player
MSN Tech and Gadgets
MSN Autos
etc.....

Bing----- can search, image search, video search, shopping search, news search, maps search, travel search, etc.....


You should get the point from reading all this, it explains Microsoft's roadmap.
#5 08993 on 03 Aug 2009 - 16:09
Actually this is quite nice, the selection of content is very decent.
#6 +Jedimark on 03 Aug 2009 - 16:18
lol - I haven't seen Harry Enfield in aaaaages
(8 replies) #7 Mr Dan on 03 Aug 2009 - 16:28
Needs support for suitables and High def streaming.
#7.1 Kushan on 03 Aug 2009 - 18:30
suitables?
#7.2 lunamonkey on 03 Aug 2009 - 18:36
Most of this is out of the bbc archives. Most weren't filmed this decade and they aren't going to go back to the original print to upscale it for these old shows. These programs have been shown a thousand times round the world, syndicated by hundreds of channels.

For a free MSN service, it's really not worth it.
#7.3 GP007 on 03 Aug 2009 - 18:48
lunamonkey said,
Most of this is out of the bbc archives. Most weren't filmed this decade and they aren't going to go back to the original print to upscale it for these old shows. These programs have been shown a thousand times round the world, syndicated by hundreds of channels.

For a free MSN service, it's really not worth it.


Unless you actually love those old shows, like many do, and want to see them again. This type a service can only grow since it's all about backdated content, since that only grows regardless. Todays "new" shows will find their way onto this in time.

#7.4 Mr Dan on 03 Aug 2009 - 19:00
Kushan said,
suitables?


Subtitles
#7.5 lunamonkey on 03 Aug 2009 - 19:05
Unless you actually love those old shows, like many do, and want to see them again. This type a service can only grow since it's all about backdated content, since that only grows regardless. Todays "new" shows will find their way onto this in time.


Just incase it wasn't clear, I'm not sure... I love the old stuff too. When I said "it's really not worth it."

I meant "it's really not worth [going back and upscaling] it."

I also think that as the focus is on old shows, I doubt they will show new HiDef on here within the next 2 years. These shows are old, and basically free to air. They literally couldn't sell this stuff anymore. Everyone has seen it all on UKGold.. :p

BBC iPlayer doesn't offer everything [anything] in HD (correct me if you know something, I'd like to watch it.) and that's been running for a few years now.

It's a nice free service though.
#7.6 cerealfreak on 03 Aug 2009 - 20:44
lunamonkey said,
Most of this is out of the bbc archives. Most weren't filmed this decade and they aren't going to go back to the original print to upscale it for these old shows. These programs have been shown a thousand times round the world, syndicated by hundreds of channels.

For a free MSN service, it's really not worth it.



And as it's FREE how can it not be worth it?? If it has something on you want to watch then it's worth it, simple really
#7.7 lunamonkey on 03 Aug 2009 - 20:49
cerealfreak said,
And as it's FREE how can it not be worth it?? If it has something on you want to watch then it's worth it, simple really


"It" was referring to upscaling old content to HD. Sorry, I wasn't grammatically correct.
#7.8 cerealfreak on 03 Aug 2009 - 21:17
lunamonkey said,
"It" was referring to upscaling old content to HD. Sorry, I wasn't grammatically correct.



Fair enough, although it could be something they will consider in the future? Possibly some of the shows have been upscaled for DVD so they may use the enhanced versions going forward if it's succesful as MSN say it is. I like it means I can watch some great old shows
#8 lee26 on 03 Aug 2009 - 16:38
Looks good so far.

#9 Metallizorz on 03 Aug 2009 - 16:39
Wow this is great currently watching Jack Dee as I missed it when it was on
#10 +mad_onion on 03 Aug 2009 - 16:57
right when I can access this through windows media center, it will be really useful.
#11 kevcampbell on 03 Aug 2009 - 17:00
shame the bar at the bottom does not auto hide

i dont think i can watch a video with a bar at the bottom, i only want to see the video
#12 bobbba on 03 Aug 2009 - 17:03
Ads Ugh
(1 reply) #13 marleyuk on 03 Aug 2009 - 17:09
You would think they would just kill the MSN name after all the Windows Live marketing.
#13.1 GP007 on 03 Aug 2009 - 18:49
MSN is for content, Live is for other services that are more app and windows based. Two different things.

(1 reply) #14 Strike X on 03 Aug 2009 - 18:11
Poor layout design

Typical microsoft.
#14.1 Quikboy on 03 Aug 2009 - 21:01
More like typical MSN. MSN has never been known for having a pretty web page or design.
#15 cerealfreak on 03 Aug 2009 - 19:09
I love this service it's great The 1st series of This Life minimum ads, Standard Definition but easily watchable fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(1 reply) #16 Dave Houlbrooke on 03 Aug 2009 - 19:35
It's a nice idea, but I think they rushed it out to try and get a bit of market share before Hulu launches here in September.

Streaming TV is a nightmare at the moment. You have to check 5 sites to find the programme you're looking for. To get 100% market share, some company needs to merge every channel onto one site (like Hulu seem to have achieved in the USA).
#16.1 Quikboy on 03 Aug 2009 - 20:59
Well except missing CBS, ABC, (I think WB), as well as other cable channels.

I'm not complaining, and I really like the catalog on Hulu, but Hulu is far from having achieved 100%
#17 ITwiz99 on 03 Aug 2009 - 19:53
Speaking of videos, did anyone see this new anti-piracy vid on Youtube?? HILARIOUS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVHhuTUp_30

#18 Sky_Omega on 03 Aug 2009 - 20:02
I've just loaded up the site, think I'll check out The Quatermass Experement ^.^ never seen
#19 phatfish on 04 Aug 2009 - 09:15
It would be nice if they would ENCODE the videos correctly. Since it is a bloody video service. Out of the four shows i picked at random two had visible interlacing.

A good example is Marion and Geoff S01E01, dunno about the rest. I would link to it but there is no way to direct link it seems.

Ill stick to iPlayer and 4OD of the moment, this needs some work still. I don't go near ITV on demand for obvious reasons.
#20 Majesticmerc on 04 Aug 2009 - 11:27
A lot of people seem to be missing the beta tag.
#21 ThomMcK on 10 Aug 2009 - 08:18
As it is encoded in flash does this mean I can watch it on the Wii internet player? I'll have to check it out when I get home

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