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AT&T to release iPhone MMS on September 25

Andrew Lyle   on 03 September 2009 - 19:51 · 46 comments & 5982 views

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AT&T announced today it will be launching Multimedia Messaging Service or MMS to the iPhone on September 25, 2009.

The long awaited update to the iPhone, since its announcement of the 3.0 firmware back in May, was to bring MMS to the iPhone. Most carriers immediately supported MMS, however AT&T stated it would not be supporting it in June with the rest of the carriers. AT&T said it planned to launch the service by the end of summer.

AT&T said the reason for not launching the MMS service in June was to see if their network could handle the increase in traffic. The last couple of months, AT&T has been upgrading their network to handle the increase in traffic once MMS goes live, saying there will be an "exponentially increase traffic."

AT&T did mention that the MMS will be enabled through a software update. This update is said to launch on September 25, 2009 and could be just for AT&T customers or the anticipated release of the iPhone 3.1 firmware that has been in beta for some time.

There is still no set date on when tethering will be launched, although the company has said it will be available "in the future."

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#1 305 on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:32
ill believe it when i see it...
(16 replies) #2 shockz on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:33
Too bad ATT doesn't have any date on tethering. boo.
#2.1 Andrew Lyle on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:35
Your on AT&T network huh..
Very surprising that Rogers in Canada offered MMS picture + video and tethering the day it came out!
#2.2 305 on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:43
but tethering can so easily be obtained. dont even have to be jailbroken.
ive been tethering for couple months now. all setup on your phone. no hacks needed.
#2.3 shockz on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:47
305 said,
but tethering can so easily be obtained. dont even have to be jailbroken.
ive been tethering for couple months now. all setup on your phone. no hacks needed.


Problem is... ATT knows you're doing it.

When you tether... the data shows up as wap.cingular on your bill.

When you don't, the data just falls under Unlimited Data.

They can easily back track and start charging fees etc...
#2.4 Shadrack on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:48
305 said,
but tethering can so easily be obtained. dont even have to be jailbroken.
ive been tethering for couple months now. all setup on your phone. no hacks needed.


What guide did you use? The ones I found for enabling tethering by installing some mysterious file into iTunes and then updating the iPhone seemed an awful lot like a hack to me...
#2.5 Shadrack on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:50
shockz said,
305 said,
but tethering can so easily be obtained. dont even have to be jailbroken.
ive been tethering for couple months now. all setup on your phone. no hacks needed.


Problem is... ATT knows you're doing it.

When you tether... the data shows up as wap.cingular on your bill.

When you don't, the data just falls under Unlimited Data.

They can easily back track and start charging fees etc...


I wish they would hurry up and just support it in a legitimate way. I'm going to be going out of town soon, and want to setup my laptop to tether to my iPhone just in case I need it but don't particularly want to "hack" it.
#2.6 Andrew Lyle on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:50
I was going to say they can see that your using tethering.. high users are getting or will be getting billed.
#2.7 waruikoohii on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:56
shockz said,
305 said,
but tethering can so easily be obtained. dont even have to be jailbroken.
ive been tethering for couple months now. all setup on your phone. no hacks needed.


Problem is... ATT knows you're doing it.

When you tether... the data shows up as wap.cingular on your bill.

When you don't, the data just falls under Unlimited Data.

They can easily back track and start charging fees etc...

Data always shows up as wap.cingular. It also falls under Unlimited Data, but if you look at it on a transaction by transaction basis, it's wap.cingular.
#2.8 shockz on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:57
waruikoohii said,
shockz said,

305 said,
but tethering can so easily be obtained. dont even have to be jailbroken.
ive been tethering for couple months now. all setup on your phone. no hacks needed.


Problem is... ATT knows you're doing it.

When you tether... the data shows up as wap.cingular on your bill.

When you don't, the data just falls under Unlimited Data.

They can easily back track and start charging fees etc...

Data always shows up as wap.cingular. It also falls under Unlimited Data, but if you look at it on a transaction by transaction basis, it's wap.cingular.


Thats weird, on mine it has two categories.

Unlimited Data and wap.cingular....
#2.9 305 on 03 Sep 2009 - 21:24
well, as i said ive been doing it for a lil over 2 months. of course im not over doing it. just occasionally in the car when i need do get something up on the laptop. im not p2p'ing or anything hehe.

but it shows as regular ol' data usage. just as if i was surfing in the phone itself. i see o difference on my statements for the time being.
#2.10 305 on 03 Sep 2009 - 21:26
Shadrack said,
What guide did you use? The ones I found for enabling tethering by installing some mysterious file into iTunes and then updating the iPhone seemed an awful lot like a hack to me...

simply open Safari on your iPhone and head over to

http://www.benm.at/help/
mobileconfigs download
U.S.A. (in my case)
select carrier and you're done.

you'll see "tethering" in your settings>network.
#2.11 shockz on 03 Sep 2009 - 21:32
waruikoohii said,
shockz said,

305 said,
but tethering can so easily be obtained. dont even have to be jailbroken.
ive been tethering for couple months now. all setup on your phone. no hacks needed.


Problem is... ATT knows you're doing it.

When you tether... the data shows up as wap.cingular on your bill.

When you don't, the data just falls under Unlimited Data.

They can easily back track and start charging fees etc...

Data always shows up as wap.cingular. It also falls under Unlimited Data, but if you look at it on a transaction by transaction basis, it's wap.cingular.


You know, I take that back. You're right. I see the wap.cingular for everything now.

But I'll still play it safe, I'm sure ATT knows some how.
#2.12 Shadrack on 03 Sep 2009 - 22:05
305 said,
simply open Safari on your iPhone and head over to

http://www.benm.at/help/
mobileconfigs download
U.S.A. (in my case)
select carrier and you're done.

you'll see "tethering" in your settings>network.


Worked like a charm. Thanks!
#2.13 Shadrack on 03 Sep 2009 - 22:13
shockz said,
But I'll still play it safe, I'm sure ATT knows some how.


You bet they know. I've got mine enabled now just in case... But even with Jailbroken tethering apps, you really can't fool the ISP if they are looking specifically for people tethering their iPhone. All they need to do is look at the packet headers. Something in there has to tell the iPhone that the data packet is for the computer its connected to and not for the iPhone.

HTTP headers such as the User-Agent will carry incriminating tidbits of information, such as: "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; iOpus-I-M; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)".

Your only security is through anonymity. But you could be right in that AT&T may figure out a way to apply back charges to your account.
#2.14 305 on 03 Sep 2009 - 23:56
Shadrack said,
Worked like a charm. Thanks!
you're welcome.

unless youre going nuts downloading stuff. no one should have a problem tethering. there is an unspoken monthly bandwidth limit. dont go near it and no flags will raise.
#2.15 ZeroHour on 04 Sep 2009 - 01:52
Just let me clarify, unless the iphone in stealthily sending a message to a ATT server to signal tethering is active they really have no other way of telling, its a just data. They *could* try packet sniffing but since safari on jailbreak can have its agent tags that would be all you should read.
Though you could beat down your data allowance and thus get billed for the extra usage but they would bill you for big abuse using native iphone apps.
#2.16 Shadrack on 04 Sep 2009 - 17:04
ZeroHour said,
Just let me clarify, unless the iphone in stealthily sending a message to a ATT server to signal tethering is active they really have no other way of telling, its a just data. They *could* try packet sniffing but since safari on jailbreak can have its agent tags that would be all you should read.
Though you could beat down your data allowance and thus get billed for the extra usage but they would bill you for big abuse using native iphone apps.


You don't know what you are talking about. Saying its just "data" is blind-folding yourself. That data contains information about where it came from and where it is going (how the hell do you think it gets there?).

If you tether your iPhone to your computer, when your computer sends a request there is information within that data packet that says that your computer sent the request, not your iPhone. Why? Because there has to be something that tells the receiver of the data how to route the response back to your computer. Not to your iPhone.

Unless I'm mistaken, AT&T is the "ISP" of your iPhone. Setting up something to tell if people are tethering their phones would be trivial.

Do I really care or fear that AT&T will crack down on me for tethering my iPhone before the service is available? Not really... as is pointed out, as long as you aren't doing some heavy downloading they really shouldn't care because it won't effect their service to others. Also, enough people are doing it that there is some strength in numbers as well as some anonymity.

But saying AT&T can't tell the difference between network traffic from an iPhone vs a computer that the iPhone is tethered to (if they really wanted to) is just being naive.
#3 305 on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:42
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(4 replies) #4 M_Lyons10 on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:51
Wow, Hell hath frozen over... I'm really glad to see AT&T finally catching up with the rest of the world...
#4.1 waruikoohii on 03 Sep 2009 - 20:56
M_Lyons10 said,
Wow, Hell hath frozen over... I'm really glad to see AT&T finally catching up with the rest of the world...

Don't get your hopes up. They still have time to screw it up royally.
I already get tons of dropped calls while on 3G. This will just make things worse.
#4.2 Shadrack on 03 Sep 2009 - 21:01
M_Lyons10 said,
Wow, Hell hath frozen over... I'm really glad to see AT&T finally catching up with the rest of the world...


Uhgg...I wish Apple would have gone with Verizon for the iPhone. Verizon's network is just leaps and bounds ahead of AT&T in my neck of the woods. My co-workers data seems so much faster on their blackberry just about everywhere.

I usually had a Verizon signal in-between towns in New Mexico and Texas out in the middle of no where. With AT&T I'm down to 1 bar on the edge of town.
#4.3 Xilo on 03 Sep 2009 - 21:01
waruikoohii said,
Don't get your hopes up. They still have time to screw it up royally.
I already get tons of dropped calls while on 3G. This will just make things worse.

i switched from sprint due to horrible amount of dropped calls and bad quality
haven't had a problem with att

honestly, it depends on where you are
#4.4 M_Lyons10 on 04 Sep 2009 - 01:04
Shadrack said,
Uhgg...I wish Apple would have gone with Verizon for the iPhone. Verizon's network is just leaps and bounds ahead of AT&T in my neck of the woods. My co-workers data seems so much faster on their blackberry just about everywhere.

I usually had a Verizon signal in-between towns in New Mexico and Texas out in the middle of no where. With AT&T I'm down to 1 bar on the edge of town.


That's how it is here as well. My friend has AT&T and is planning to switch to Verizon once his contract is up. I was with Sprint for a long time and their service was horrible here as well, so I switched to Verizon. When I did we were both surprised by how good their service is... I wonder what will happen when Verizon rolls out their 4G network, which is supposedly based on GSM...
#5 Shadrack on 03 Sep 2009 - 21:02
MMS is finally going to be available! Yay, I can finally start sexting all my friends.... yipee!
(1 reply) #6 wellslogan on 03 Sep 2009 - 21:09
"MMS support from AT&T coming in late summer." September 25= NOT SUMMER.
#6.1 Shadrack on 03 Sep 2009 - 21:11
wellslogan said,
"MMS support from AT&T coming in late summer." September 25= NOT SUMMER.


You are correct. According to:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_is_the_firs...of_Fall_in_2009

Summer end and Fall begins on September 22nd. AT&T just can't keep promises, can they?
(3 replies) #7 tom5 on 03 Sep 2009 - 21:12
Wow - iPhone gets a feature that the other phones, costing a fraction of its price, have had for years
#7.1 Xenomorph on 03 Sep 2009 - 22:06
tom5 said,
Wow - iPhone gets a feature that the other phones, costing a fraction of its price, have had for years


I've had tons of cell phones, going back to the 1990s.

The iPhone is the first phone I've ever had that could do MMS. It's new to me.
#7.2 roadwarrior on 04 Sep 2009 - 11:41
Xenomorph said,
I've had tons of cell phones, going back to the 1990s.

The iPhone is the first phone I've ever had that could do MMS. It's new to me.


Every camera phone that I've ever seen could do it. What phones have you had that couldn't?
#7.3 Xenomorph on 04 Sep 2009 - 14:22
roadwarrior said,
Xenomorph said,
I've had tons of cell phones, going back to the 1990s.

The iPhone is the first phone I've ever had that could do MMS. It's new to me.


Every camera phone that I've ever seen could do it. What phones have you had that couldn't?


They still make a lot of NON camera phones. Me and my wife never had a camera phone until 2009.
#8 gonzolife on 03 Sep 2009 - 21:18
I believe it when I see it. I do like that they have admitted they waited to see if their network can handle the increased traffic when based on my current service seems unlikely. That and a recent PC World study found that in my area (well they used Baltimore but close enough) AT&T had the worst reliability rate (I'd quote actual numbers but I don't have them in front of me - safe to say ATT did not do well).
#9 +warwagon on 03 Sep 2009 - 23:08
I hate MMS. People always send me stupid audio or Picture Text messages. Its like email in a way. Leave it plain text.
(3 replies) #10 InsaneNutter on 04 Sep 2009 - 00:13
So the AT&T phone network didn't support MMS at all or just on iPhones?

Just wondering as MMS has been around since 2003 in the UK, if not longer.... sounds like it's pretty new over in the US?
#10.1 omnicoder on 04 Sep 2009 - 03:08
No, it's not new. I have a lame old cellphone that I haven't bothered to upgrade. Verizon has had it for a while.
#10.2 simon360 on 04 Sep 2009 - 03:31
I'm pretty sure AT&T added a block on all iPhones to prevent people hacking their phones to use MMS when it wasn't built into the iPhone OS. No other carrier did this, so AT&T is far behind.
#10.3 Shadrack on 04 Sep 2009 - 17:07
InsaneNutter said,
So the AT&T phone network didn't support MMS at all or just on iPhones?

Just wondering as MMS has been around since 2003 in the UK, if not longer.... sounds like it's pretty new over in the US?


I thought that AT&T supported MMS from all other phones except the iPhone. Could be wrong though, I'm new to the service. Never really used MMS when I did have it through Verizon... But I can definitely see myself using it more with the iPhone once it is available.
(2 replies) #11 styxrtp on 04 Sep 2009 - 18:22
I smell a class action lawsuit! "late summer" AT&T promised everyone who has an iPhone. Well...to the best of my recollection, September 25th is DEFINITELY not summer. Anyone have decent lawyers?
#11.1 naap51stang on 05 Sep 2009 - 04:52
Summer "officially" ends on September 21st You would think the legal eagles of the deathstar would get the IT brains to release it before the 21st, just to keep the slip and fall lawyers from filing more lawsuits.
#11.2 bigfootabercrombie on 05 Sep 2009 - 05:17
Wasn't there already a lawsuit filed about this? I vaguely remember something here on Neowin about it...
#12 MulletRobZ on 04 Sep 2009 - 21:54
And I thought Rogers was retarded with their cellphone policies!
#13 naap51stang on 05 Sep 2009 - 04:49
Welcome to the party iPhone...just about everyone else has had MMS LONG before the all glorious iPhony.
The last two HTC phones I used since 07 have had MMS...I hardly ever use it...save 5-6 times a year.
As for tethering...I use it when I can't get a wi-fi signal using my Touch Pro..I just need it to check email, or a technical website for work. I think the other posters are correct, unless you get stupid with the amount of data, I don't think you'll raise a red flag.
#14 bigfootabercrombie on 05 Sep 2009 - 05:16
"The last couple of months, AT&T has been upgrading their network"

Um... Does anybody else think this is a load of crap? We still have Edge where I live...
(1 reply) #15 VoX on 06 Sep 2009 - 05:18
iphones are trendy, yuppy pieces of crap that aren't anywhere close to being comparable to a phone decked out with Windows Mobile 6.5. Yes there's bugs. But at least I can change my battery and flash my ROM the way I see fit.

I'm a PC. I enjoy options. Life is full of them.
#15.1 +TrekRich on 07 Sep 2009 - 10:42
LOL
#16 Zoom7000 on 08 Sep 2009 - 07:41
It still shocks me that Apple can release a phone and charge the price they do for it and yet it still can't do half the stuff a normal and much cheaper phone can do, until now! Just shows the power of the Apple brand!

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