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Microsoft's $358 million damage award overturned

Brad Sams   on 14 September 2009 - 17:47 · 23 comments & 3797 views

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A US court of appeals has overturned a judgment in a patent dispute case of Alcatel-Lucent vs. Microsoft. The case, based around a patent for entering information into the calendar on Microsoft Outlook, originally ruled that Microsoft did infringe on this patent and awarded $358 million dollars to Alcatel-Lucent.

The appeals court overturned the ruling by saying that "Microsoft did indirectly infringe Alcatel's patents, but said the damages awarded against the firm were not justified and must be retried" according to Yahoo.

The result is the damages that were initially awarded to Alcatel-Lucent were unjustly high and that a more reasonable amount needs to be administered. The two companies will now head back to court to try and determine the appropriate damages.

This is the final case against Microsoft from Alcatel-Lucent which was a part of a multi-billion patent dispute. The majority of the dispute was settled last year for $512 million dollars.

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#1 master2k27 on 14 Sep 2009 - 17:48
its good for microsoft
#2 a1ien on 14 Sep 2009 - 17:57
The majority of the dispute was settled last year for $512 million dollars.


Well, ouch, already.
(3 replies) #3 excalpius on 14 Sep 2009 - 17:58
A patent...for entering information into a calendar..."prior art" going back to the dawn of recorded time. FFS.
#3.1 roadwarrior on 14 Sep 2009 - 18:13
I'm quite sure the patent is at least a little more complex than that. Of course that won't stop the "anti-patent" trolls around here from going off on rants against the patent process.
#3.2 +TCLN Ryster on 14 Sep 2009 - 19:07
Now now children, take it outside please
#3.3 M_Lyons10 on 14 Sep 2009 - 22:36
roadwarrior said,
I'm quite sure the patent is at least a little more complex than that. Of course that won't stop the "anti-patent" trolls around here from going off on rants against the patent process.


Well, you can't argue that patents on software makes sense. It does nothing but restrict the industry. Customers do not buy Outlook solely for how you enter information in a calendar, nor will they buy Alcatel-Lucent's product solely for this reason. They buy software because of what it does as a whole. Rather than patent every ridiculous thing you do, and suing when someone does something even remotely similar (Even if the product is completely different), these companies should be working to make products that customers want.
(2 replies) #4 cabron on 14 Sep 2009 - 18:09
I can't wait for a lawsuit patent infringement case about the use of e-mail, I mean this is the only thing left, "I patented e-mail so let suit the ass of all these e-mail systems by Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc."
#4.1 M_Lyons10 on 14 Sep 2009 - 22:38
cabron said,
I can't wait for a lawsuit patent infringement case about the use of e-mail, I mean this is the only thing left, "I patented e-mail so let suit the ass of all these e-mail systems by Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc."


Yeah? I patented a way of "displaying information in an application window"... Let the law suits begin!
#4.2 GreyWolfSC on 14 Sep 2009 - 22:43
M_Lyons10 said,
Yeah? I patented a way of "displaying information in an application window"... Let the law suits begin!


I'm tellin' Google on ya. That's what their home page patent description is in its entirety.
(1 reply) #5 JonathanVP on 14 Sep 2009 - 18:13
ah its good to be a patent lawyer! Now, all I have to do is finish law school, pass the bar, pass the patent bar, etc....
#5.1 +DonC on 14 Sep 2009 - 19:21
You'll be rolling in it!
#6 t0l4 on 14 Sep 2009 - 18:45
<sarcasm> i think i should file for a patent for leaving comments on neowin . i might just get lucky to be awarded the patent </sarcasm>
(3 replies) #7 kInG aLeXo on 14 Sep 2009 - 19:33
How much exactly is Microsoft spending on its lawyers ?!
#7.1 macrosslover on 14 Sep 2009 - 19:44
not much, they called 1-800-win-win-1
#7.2 RAID 0 on 14 Sep 2009 - 19:47
No, they called this guy-
#7.3 Glen on 14 Sep 2009 - 23:07
RAID 0 said,
No, they called this guy-


Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer! Classic.
(1 reply) #8 brent3000 on 14 Sep 2009 - 21:16
entering infomation into a calender OMFG some of these cases are the stupidest things ever... PPl will sue for anything...
#8.1 M_Lyons10 on 14 Sep 2009 - 22:41
brent3000 said,
entering infomation into a calender OMFG some of these cases are the stupidest things ever... PPl will sue for anything...


Yep. Why work for money when you can take someone else's?
#9 mindscape on 14 Sep 2009 - 22:50
Great. Hope to see that the i4i case turns out like this too.
#10 soldier1st on 14 Sep 2009 - 23:54
i bet there will be a patent for turning your pc on and off and and another for sitting down on a chair which just goes to show that patents only cause problems and should be refutted and all patents be destroyed as that would be the right thing to do.
#11 Atlonite on 15 Sep 2009 - 16:54
i wonder if there's a patent for binary code that is used for computing i bet we'd like to be the guy or gal who thought that up
(1 reply) #12 CyberWolf on 15 Sep 2009 - 20:02
Just wait. I am patenting the single and double click of any and all computing input devices. This includes the tap and double tap of touch pads, and the blinking/eye twitch input that Steven Hawking uses. I am then going to sue the entire planet. Everyone with a computing device that requires inputs through my patented process.

I will charge everyone a dollar a year to license. That should net me about 100 million or more a year. Once I have enough money I am going to buy Canada and evict everyone the spend my days enjoying the piece and quiet.

#12.1 _dandy_ on 16 Sep 2009 - 17:10
CyberWolf said,
Once I have enough money I am going to buy Canada and evict everyone the spend my days enjoying the piece and quiet.


There's already only 3.5 of us per square kilometer in Canada (according to wikipedia)...

I'd go somewhere warmer, personally. This summer lasted maybe 10 days.

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