Hewlett Packard showed off several new products today, including its new "Envy" sub-brand which will be competing with Apple's MacBook Air and Dell's Adamo.Starting at $1699 - nearly $200 more than both the MacBook Air and Adamo - the Envy 13 features a 1.86GHz Intel Core 2 Duo SL9400 processor, 3GB of RAM, 512MB ATi Mobility Radeon HD 4330 graphics processor and a 250GB hard drive. The Envy 13, which comes with an external 8X DVD-RW as standard, measures 12.6" x 8.5" x 0.8" and weighs around 3.74 pounds. Its extended-life battery is expected to last up to 18 hours, thanks to onboard technology that throttles the GPU and "downgrades" to the integrated Intel GPU for simpler tasks.
Hewlett Packard has not released much information about the Envy 13's bigger brother, the Envy 15, but according to the company's press release it will include a "future Core i7 processor", support for up to 16GB of RAM, a 1GB ATi Mobility Radeon HD 4830 and support for up to 2 solid state hard drives. With a starting price of $1799, the Envy 15's features sound impressive, although the battery life is much lower compared to the Envy 13 at only 7 hours.
The company also showed off the ProBook 5310m, which it claims to be the "World's thinnest full-performance notebook". With a starting price of $699, the 5310m measures 0.9" at its thickest point, weighs around 3.7 pounds.
Both the Envy 13 and Envy 15 are expected to be available in the United States on October 18th. The ProBook 5310m is already available in Asia with Windows Vista, but it will be available Worldwide with Windows 7 on October 22nd.
Images Credit: PC World
*Jaw Drops*
LOL That is an impressive spec...
-Are you telling me this sucker is nuclear?
-No no no no, this sucker's electrical.
/1.21 gigawatts
And all those HUGE vents?
:/
If you'd rather have a laptop that overheats...
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Yes, this is one case where I'd say "f-ck aesthetics", and then I'm owning a Mac.
I can buy one for my laptop too, just haven't seen the point.
And all those HUGE vents?
:/
Yeah, vents I won't argue against as I wouldn't want my computer to overheat, but as far as the other aesthetics, I have never really liked HP's laptops... They aren't sexy IMO...
I can buy one for my laptop too, just haven't seen the point.
I would upgrade in a heartbeat for 18 hours of battery life... I wish Dell had that... *sigh*
Dell Latitude claims the same 18 hour battery life as well. i am sure that means swapping the optical drive with the extra modular battery but its possible.
( In apple we trust)
lol pwnd
Not that that will stop any reactionary Neowin trolls.
Not that that will stop any reactionary Neowin trolls.
Yeah, maybe it's me, but HP has never been a brand I would even consider paying primo for... If I need something cheap that does the job for a year or two? Sure. But the brand does not warrant such a price tag, or elicit much faith from me...
Not that that will stop any reactionary Neowin trolls.
Y'know, it helps to check the spec as well before complaining about price.
I was taking the **** out of Both apple and Hp actually apple marketing that is now a religion also the price and Hp on the price of this thing.
Not every thing is based on fanboy mentality
I use all 3 Major OS (ubuntu Windows X) and they all have their fair share of suck
typo
How about Greed.
How about Greed.
LOL Comment of the day right there
How about Greed.
Oh jeez... LMAO That was hilarious!
i await some proper reviews, there has to be something wrong here..
I too would envy the Air or the Adamo if I looked like this ugly "early 2000" looking POS.
YES! It's ugly.
Apple would never put its name on something so fugly
Nor would I give the tiniest crap about mini display port. Very few laptops, if any macbooks, have a gpu worth assaulting with that resolution, and even fewer displays support it. I don't know how high hdmi goes, but even 1080p is all any large screen business presentation would bother with. You can't argue future-proofing, since you can't upgrade the gpu in a laptop, and the Mac philosophy would demand buying a new laptop in 3 years anyway. So why demand a feature today that's useless until then?
Your two little showstoppers here remind me of those people in the 90s who were convinced iomega was the future and wouldn't tolerate a computer without a zip drive.
2560x1600 works perfectly well with the 9400M graphics card in it. Of course not for games but then again OSX is not a good OS for games anyway. For desktop use no problems. I use FireWire to connect my audio interface for high quality recording and playback. Granted, I am a minority here but I was merely pointing out a few features that the Envy is lacking.
The Envy isn't quite like the MB Air because it's not thin, it's quite not the Macbook because it's missing features. So is it the perfect machine for those who want a little bit of both but not totally either?
It may be similar to a Mac, but it doesn't mean it's going for the same market - for one, it's not a Mac. In which case the lack of firewire and a mini-dp, are, as Joshie says, not all that relevant.
Meh. I highly recommend FireWire 800 rather than USB interfaces on external drives for much better transfer speeds than on USB 2.0, and that's not exactly a niche market if you're e.g. taking backups seriously and don't fall into the newbie RAID-is-good-for-backups trap. The good ones usually have both interfaces anyway.
I tend to think that in the race between hard backups and internet backups, as far as the mainstream market goes, we're more likely to see web folders on desktops than firewire drives on desks. Firewire has a long way to go to really dig out market share, and I don't know if I see it happening faster than internet speeds are advancing.
And as far as the business world goes, I definitely don't see personal backup drives winning anyone over.
The 13in Pro and Unibody have the SAME LCD Since like July, the only change is the integrated battery, option for more memory, and faster CPU, and a firewire port.
Personal I find Firewire only useful when booting a mac a a drive for another mac. Which I only do one one of those Mac's is F'd up.
Last edited by ZX2 on 15 Sep 2009 - 21:26
Overrated for the purpose. The speed difference between Firewire and USB2 isn't significant enough to make the port a show-stopper. It's also certainly ridiculous to take away space for an extra USB2 port, with all of its versatility, for the sake of a firewire port that ends up being superior for only one type of hardware.
The amusing thing I found was that speed tests for large files always use EXTREMELY large files to make Firewire look superior. Half a dozen sites I found after googling comparisons used files as large as 10gb (sometimes larger) to boast results of transfering 30-45 seconds faster than USB2. Big freaking deal. Cable internet would never have beaten dialup if all they could've said was "What once took four minutes to download will now just take three and a half!"
For those few occations when i actually need to use a disc i wouldn't mind connecting an external device. Digital distribution ftw.
Per blehbleh, that's exactly what they did. If people rarely use a DVD drive (something they would find out using market research - not 'what some guy on a forum says'), they don't want to be lumbered with it all the time. But it's still available for those occasions you do need it.
And by the way, that joke was awful. Well, it's not even a joke. Unless - haHA - you change all the letters of "fail", one at a time. >_>
turns your dvd drive into a 2nd HDD bay
Optical drives in notebooks have used a standard size drive with a standard connector for a decade or more now! The faceplates might not always line up (because that is actually added on to the drive to match the case of the notebook), but drives themselves are interchangable.
And you really want to talk again abotu functionality on the Air? How many USB ports does the Air have?
Joshie, I agree. Good points.
Glad we have our priorities straight
These run on C2D's and anything lower instead of i7's and still maintain a similar look. Base price starting $699 for Celerons, $899 for C2D's.
lmao!
Oh God, I bet they might've even made it possible to change out your memory and harddrive without having to remove a dozen microscopic screws.
Nursing degree AND college degree AND Masters degree
business degree AND Science Degree
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