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HTC HD2 available in Europe today, US 2010

Tom Warren   on 04 November 2009 - 11:49 · 45 comments & 6145 views

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HTC has officially confirmed that the HTC HD2 will be available today in the UK, Europe and Asia.

The HTC HD2 is HTC's latest Windows Phone which includes the latest operating system Windows Mobile 6.5. The HD2 also comes with HTC's latest user experience, HTC Sense. Sense is based on the TouchFLO 3D interface found on older HTC models. Sense sits on top of Windows Mobile and provides extra functionality and an improved user interface for accessing common applications.

According to Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer: "Working with HTC, we've delivered great phones that help customers connect to the people and information they care about, wherever they are," said Ballmer. "The HTC HD2 shows what's possible through our close partnership with HTC and it breaks new ground for Windows phones by delivering a beautiful multi-touch screen that people will love."

The HTC HD2 includes a capacitive touchscreen, Digital Compass, FM Radio and 5MP Camera. The device is powered by a 1GHz Snapdragon processor with 448MB. (Full list of specifications).

The HTC HD2 is available from Expansys in UK priced at £499. HTC and Microsoft also announced that the HD2 would be available in the United States with a major US carrier in early 2010.


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(1 reply) #1 Shaun_ on 04 Nov 2009 - 11:53
This actually looks like a contender to being my new phone rather than getting another iPhone
#1.1 GP007 on 04 Nov 2009 - 12:49
I've been waiting for this myself. Now to just see if they have it in my neck of the woods yet.
(1 reply) #2 Raa on 04 Nov 2009 - 11:57
Dammit I just bought my TP2 as well!!!! *massive facepalm*
#2.1 coolvi on 04 Nov 2009 - 16:02
Well, you get a keyboard with the TP2: A phone without a keypad/board always feels like something is missing, to me at least.
(14 replies) #3 bluesea on 04 Nov 2009 - 12:05
the specs are just terrible.. i do not understand why WM 6.5 STILL does not support more than 65k colors (whereas other OSs support up to 24bit). Moreover, new phones adopt AMOLED displays (samsung already pushed out an AMOLED WVGA display) which have higher contrast and less power consumption; this one comes with a plain TFT-WVGA. too bad..
#3.2 profets on 04 Nov 2009 - 12:48
the specs are terrible? its not like the market is flooded with 1ghz snapdragon 4"+ WVGA devices to choose from
#3.3 GP007 on 04 Nov 2009 - 12:54
/- Razorfold said,


Great post and good info right there. I just hope more people read it as well. WM can do quite alot, the only real thing holding the OS back is the UI itself, but newer 6.5.1 builds are showing some nice changes imo.

#3.4 citac on 04 Nov 2009 - 13:26
Bluesea i hope you have read what Razorfold has linked, because it truly makes your comment invalid about the screen bit size
#3.5 carmatic on 04 Nov 2009 - 14:02
if its already so hard to spot the difference between high colour (16 bit) and true colour (24 bit) on a desktop, how is it going to make a difference in a mobile device?

the thing about 24bits with the wasted 6 bits and all that... the article suggested that the extra 6 bits could be used for transparency, i say thats a good idea... imagine an aero glass-style interface, only the screen itself is physically transparent... so you could see through the wallpaper and see whats behind the screen and stacking windows will also stack opaqueness so it looks like the windows are 'real'... no blur or glare tho, the mobile device has better things to do than simulating something you dont want to see...
#3.6 fards on 04 Nov 2009 - 15:33
Amoled? samsung? what like the omnia II?

no thanks, I like to have my devices usable outside in bright light!

#3.7 Shadrack on 04 Nov 2009 - 19:58
/- Razorfold said,


That article may have been 100% accurate in 2005 (when it was written), but welcome to the end of 2009. There are little screens that support 24bit color now. There really is no excuse to only support 65k color.

Is there a visual difference? You bet.
#3.8 Shadrack on 04 Nov 2009 - 20:00
carmatic said,
if its already so hard to spot the difference between high colour (16 bit) and true colour (24 bit) on a desktop, how is it going to make a difference in a mobile device?

the thing about 24bits with the wasted 6 bits and all that... the article suggested that the extra 6 bits could be used for transparency, i say thats a good idea... imagine an aero glass-style interface, only the screen itself is physically transparent... so you could see through the wallpaper and see whats behind the screen and stacking windows will also stack opaqueness so it looks like the windows are 'real'... no blur or glare tho, the mobile device has better things to do than simulating something you dont want to see...


Seriously? In that case, switch your display to 16bit. I'd like to know how long you leave it in 16bit mode before switching back to 24bit mode. There is clearly a difference in photo realism when it comes to 16bit vs 24bit. I'm not sure you have really done any real comparisons. Or maybe you are color blind?

There is a difference between 65k color and 16.7 million colors. About 16 million colors difference.

In fact, I argue there is a big difference between 16bit and 18bit color. The article trys to make it out like there isn't a difference, but there is. I think it is worth the performance trade off. I think it was worth the performance trade off back in to 2005 when the article was written.

The article is written in terms of "differences" but the truth of the matter is, bit-by-bit is an exponential effect. Its 2^bit. The article is downplaying this significance. Do you think there is a difference between 10 dollars and 100 dollars? I mean, its just 1 silly digit difference.

Last edited by Shadrack on 04 Nov 2009 - 20:12
#3.9 /- Razorfold on 04 Nov 2009 - 20:48
Except your 16million colors are let down by the simple fact that your iphones resolution is 320x480. While other phones may have 65k color or 262k color they fit double the pixels in the same screen size. So at the end of the day your 16million color phone might be able to show 16 million shades of color but you are never going to really see any difference.

And nice try comparing it to computers, btw computer displays use 32bit. And have lcds that are superior to the ones that you have on phones

Download the app and put in a standard picture and see how much difference you can make out on your desktop display.

Here's a proof for you. Original picture is 32bit, taken using an HDR camera (wallpaper from interfacelift):



Last edited by /- Razorfold on 04 Nov 2009 - 21:00
#3.10 Shadrack on 04 Nov 2009 - 21:54
/- Razorfold said,
Except your 16million colors are let down by the simple fact that your iphones resolution is 320x480.


Who was talking about the iPhone? I swear, you are obsessed with the iPhone. Every other post, its "iPhone this" and "iPhone that." Get over the iPhone dude....

There is even more reason to have more colors on a "low resolution" device. With higher resolutions at least you have room for dithering.
#3.11 /- Razorfold on 04 Nov 2009 - 22:06
Shadrack said,
Who was talking about the iPhone? I swear, you are obsessed with the iPhone. Every other post, its "iPhone this" and "iPhone that." Get over the iPhone dude....


Name some other phones have 16 million colors. There's the iphone, n900 (which isn't out yet), n97, SE idou (which just came out), and like 2 samsung ones. The vast majority of phones are either 65k or 262k.

And you obviously weren't talking about computers when you compared 65k to 16.7 million color.

There is even more reason to have more colors on a "low resolution" device. With higher resolutions at least you have room for dithering.


Except on higher resolutions (with a similar screen size) pictures and colors look a hell of a lot sharper even with lower colors.

Last edited by /- Razorfold on 04 Nov 2009 - 22:21
#3.12 Shadrack on 04 Nov 2009 - 22:53
/- Razorfold said,
Name some other phones have 16 million colors. There's the iphone, n900 (which isn't out yet), n97, SE idou (which just came out), and like 2 samsung ones. The vast majority of phones are either 65k or 262k.

And you obviously weren't talking about computers when you compared 65k to 16.7 million color.



Except on higher resolutions (with a similar screen size) pictures and colors look a hell of a lot sharper even with lower colors.


So what you are basically trying to say is:

When an iPhone user says multitasking really isn't that big of a deal... to you, it is a really big deal.

But when the iPhone has the ability to display millions of colors, and your device can only display 10's of thousands of colors...it really isn't that big of a deal.

I see where we are at now. I think I finally understand you.
#3.13 /- Razorfold on 04 Nov 2009 - 22:59
Shadrack said,
So what you are basically trying to say is:

When an iPhone user says multitasking really isn't that big of a deal... to you, it is a really big deal.

But when the iPhone has the ability to display millions of colors, and your device can only display 10's of thousands of colors...it really isn't that big of a deal.

I see where we are at now. I think I finally understand you.


Excuse me?

Where did I say displaying 16million colors is a bad thing and the iphone sucks because of it? All I said was that an iphones 16million color screen is let down by its low resolution and that fitting more pixels in the same screen size gives a better looking picture than fitting more colors.

And nice try by bringing in multitasking, why don't we talk about the battery life too while we're at it?

Last edited by /- Razorfold on 04 Nov 2009 - 23:06
#3.14 resol612 on 05 Nov 2009 - 03:57
Shadrack said,
Seriously? In that case, switch your display to 16bit. I'd like to know how long you leave it in 16bit mode before switching back to 24bit mode. There is clearly a difference in photo realism when it comes to 16bit vs 24bit. I'm not sure you have really done any real comparisons. Or maybe you are color blind?

There is a difference between 65k color and 16.7 million colors. About 16 million colors difference.

In fact, I argue there is a big difference between 16bit and 18bit color. The article trys to make it out like there isn't a difference, but there is. I think it is worth the performance trade off. I think it was worth the performance trade off back in to 2005 when the article was written.

The article is written in terms of "differences" but the truth of the matter is, bit-by-bit is an exponential effect. Its 2^bit. The article is downplaying this significance. Do you think there is a difference between 10 dollars and 100 dollars? I mean, its just 1 silly digit difference.


Calling others colour blind is really offensive.

Not like you'll care, anyway...
(2 replies) #4 Brendando on 04 Nov 2009 - 12:32
Woah, sexy hardware.
Ew, Windows Mobile.
#4.1 guruparan on 04 Nov 2009 - 16:25
6.5 is pretty good when you really use it...its very responsive & usable with the latest device its shipped with.
#4.2 mrp04 on 04 Nov 2009 - 19:45
Yes! Windows Mobile!
(1 reply) #5 Digix on 04 Nov 2009 - 12:51
By time this comes out in the US there's going to be plenty of snapdragon devices so I don't think it's going to be standing out for very long to be honest.
#5.1 naap51stang on 04 Nov 2009 - 13:21
Digix said,
By time this comes out in the US there's going to be plenty of snapdragon devices so I don't think it's going to be standing out for very long to be honest.


EXACTLY! The stranglehold of the "locked" phones in the USA causes a 6-9 month delay in getting good quality phones. People have become use to getting a phone for "free" or at a greatly reduced price. Whichever carrier in the USA gets this phone will most likely get my busi ness. I'm currently with at&t, but will jump when this one is released. I don't see at&t getting any "top notch" phone because they have their noses so far up Apples butt they can see their tongue. Hopefully, Apple will allow all the carriers in the USA to have the iPhone, so at&t will start getting some better phones. Even now, on their website, the NEW HTC Touch Pro 2 (Tilt2) is at the BOTTOM of the list, but the iPhone, which has been out forever, is at the top of the list. I went into an at&t corporate store before the tilt2 was release asking about it, and the dumb clerk didn't know what I was talking about, but he sure was fast to point me to an iPhone. I said no thanks, if I wanted a toy, I'd get a play station or similar.
(1 reply) #6 melted98 on 04 Nov 2009 - 13:04
i'm waiting for the Nokia N900 to see what that is like, but i'm NOT getting another Iphone
#6.1 Digix on 04 Nov 2009 - 17:27
melted98 said,
i'm waiting for the Nokia N900 to see what that is like, but i'm NOT getting another Iphone


Yeah, interesting to see how it stacks up hardware wise. Both have ups and downs but I think N900 will come out as a better user experience over all.
#7 JamesWeb on 04 Nov 2009 - 13:51
WOO. This is the one I've been waiting for... But I wonder how long it'll be before O2 are stocking them?
(3 replies) #8 Euphoria on 04 Nov 2009 - 14:45
Now I really can say that this phone looks great! I love the brush metal style.
Are there any videos of how smooth the interface runs and responds to touch commands?
#8.1 fards on 04 Nov 2009 - 15:36
Euphoria said,
Now I really can say that this phone looks great! I love the brush metal style.
Are there any videos of how smooth the interface runs and responds to touch commands?



yeah quite a lot. Wmpoweruser.com is a good source of videos of it. Solopamari been busy comparing there review one to the acer neotouch (another snapdragon winmo device)
#8.2 Euphoria on 04 Nov 2009 - 18:54
Thanks!
#8.3 M_Lyons10 on 06 Nov 2009 - 09:15
fards said,
yeah quite a lot. Wmpoweruser.com is a good source of videos of it. Solopamari been busy comparing there review one to the acer neotouch (another snapdragon winmo device)


Wow. That Acer neotouch is freakin' amazing... I wonder who will get that... I like...
(1 reply) #9 Gabureiru on 04 Nov 2009 - 15:05
the article doesn't say anything about the US release.... =-(
#9.1 Tom W on 04 Nov 2009 - 17:22
Apologies, I've added this in.
(3 replies) #10 KeR on 04 Nov 2009 - 16:29
I am really considering this as my next phone, I just wish it didn't have WinMobile 6.5 its the worst out of the current crop of Phone OS's.
#10.1 David S on 04 Nov 2009 - 16:42
I totally agree, I spend a year with a Tilt and dabbled a lot with custom Roms. I truly enjoyed the experience, unfortunately WM is not in the same league as Android and Iphone. Hopefully WM7 will incorporate Zune and then I might consider switching back. Until then, my Hero is keeping me extremely satisfied in the mobile device front.
#10.2 Wannes on 04 Nov 2009 - 17:18
KeR said,
I am really considering this as my next phone, I just wish it didn't have WinMobile 6.5 its the worst out of the current crop of Phone OS's.

Indeed, if only it has Android.
#10.3 redavenger on 04 Nov 2009 - 20:54
David S said,
I totally agree, I spend a year with a Tilt and dabbled a lot with custom Roms. I truly enjoyed the experience, unfortunately WM is not in the same league as Android and Iphone. Hopefully WM7 will incorporate Zune and then I might consider switching back. Until then, my Hero is keeping me extremely satisfied in the mobile device front.


Wow I have the exact opposite experience. I am on Sprint and tried out the Hero and absolutely hated Android. The onscreen keyboard was terrible and I couldn't ever get it going. It was also super S L O W. Android doesn't seem to be very fast at all. The Hero skin looked pretty but android itself is fugly. I took it back and got a Touch Pro 2 which seems to run circles around it. Also the onscreen keyboard is workable but the physical keyboard on that is the best keyboard on a mobile device i have ever used. Sorry but you can keep your android. in my opinion it sucks.
(1 reply) #11 lordcanti86 on 04 Nov 2009 - 17:17
DO WANT
#11.1 darkmanx21 on 04 Nov 2009 - 18:43
YEAH!!!
#12 +.Vamp on 04 Nov 2009 - 18:31
I'm holding out for the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. I love a good camera on my phone (currently have a c905) and apart from that, the phone itself looks really nice, visuals and specs.

http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/m...iax10?undefined
#13 Tai on 04 Nov 2009 - 19:28
I like the specs, but of the phones I've tried so far, android beats Windows Mobile hands down. Dare say an android version of this will show up at some stage.

However, if Carphone Warehouse get the HD2 in at £99.99 unlocked, I may be persuaded ...
#14 Gabe3 on 04 Nov 2009 - 20:57
I wish this phone had android!
#15 -=MagMan=- on 05 Nov 2009 - 03:33
I'm currently the proud owner of a HTC TyTN II OEM phone, imported straight from Singapore, and must say it's the best phone I have ever owned! My fiance owns the HTC Touch Pro, and keeps mocking me how outdated my unit is. I have just found my replacement to which I can respond to her "eat your heart out hunny!", and can also do that to iPhone users while hacking them in coffee shops ;D
#16 phdem on 05 Nov 2009 - 08:51
I saw this and thought about love at first sight! My experience though tells me to wait to see how efficient the battery of this great piece of equipment is and then decide whether I should get it or not!

@Gabe3 I wish that HTC gave us a choice between Android and Win Mobile (or maybe both! even though Sense on Windows Mobile 6.5 is one of the things that made me fall in love with this phone!
#17 M_Lyons10 on 06 Nov 2009 - 08:54
This is very sharp looking. I'm a ways off from replacing my phone at the moment though. I guess I'll see how this progresses... HTC is putting out some nice phones lately (Though I've liked what I've seen from Samsung as well).

I'm really curious about Windows Mobile 6.5 as well. Boy am I glad to see Microsoft working on Windows Mobile again.

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