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Considering this pack uses all freely-available components, I fail to see the problem.

k-lite blows, btw.

K-lite uses illegal codecs

CCCP does not

Except the corporate edition.

k-lite does blow
but i see some awful shareware crap get put in here from time to time which makes me sad
cccp is way cooler than k-lite, you should switch yourself IMO

So CCCP = (Klite - copyrighted codecs) ?

Yes, this one is a beta, you are just going to the front page and downloading the latest stable release. Click the link in the original news post at neowin to get directed to the cccp beta.

The latest FFDShow is just 1 month old and bring more performance and stability.

+1 If you're gonna say "It SUCKS!" you better be prepared back it up somehow or you're just talking out of your ass.

We don't need to backup anything. If you want to continue to use crap go right ahead. If you're truly interested then you can do yourself a favor and search in these very forums for the answers as we've discussed it before.

LOL. That kinda answer translates to "we just hate k-lite" for some unknown reason. If there was a genuine reason, you could've written it in the same time as it took to type your moan.

Is it really so hard to type "CCCP" or "K-lite" in Neowins search function? I'm not here to educate, I'm here to post my opinions, and my opinion is K-lite is useless and dangerous. Your opinion may be different but I'm not asking you why you think it's so great, now am I?

Useless ? Dangerous ? LOL

Been using K-Lite + Realplayer and Quicktime Alternatives for years no problems at all.

PS: AFAIK the DviX Codec is free, Its the player thats not.

Did I stutter? The only thing laughable is your lack of codec knowledge. If you've been using it for years then your PC has been damaged for years.

No, the Pro Codec (which comes with K-Lite) is not free... the player is. Facts are fun

Last edited by rpger81 on 01 Jul 2008 - 00:21

its not that k-lite is dangerous or illegal, its that its based on the original codecs like the divx codec, which, i mean if you like that codec, go ahead and use it, my experience is that it uses an insane amount of cpu, is bloated as far as memory use, and crashes alot -- to me, that sucks -- so i use ffdshow or xvid both of which are 100% free, insanely fast (you can get cpu optimized builds-- thats open source for you) and full of tons of options -- oh yeah, and you can encode for free...
and cccp plays alllll the formats klite does, yet has like 5 separate pieces of software, k-lite has upwards of 30+ and yet does nothing, absolutely nothing, that cccp does not, correct me if i'm wrong.
no it can't play quicktime or realplayer but we all understand the limitations of proprietary dmca-protected bs codecs like that.
regardless of if you think k-lite actually sucks or not, why would you want to use a bunch of shareware/closed source/buggy/obsolete/mismatched codecs anyways when you can download a smaller file that is based on totally free, cpu optimized, open source software?
look at your browser, is it firefox? if yes, go download cccp.
if not well, enjoy your k-lite!

Too bad you don't have any. Facts, that is.
Sorry, but I think you're full of **** rpger81 . As far as I know the K-lite Codec packs don't "damage" anything and you can't prove otherwise or you'd have done so already. Either put up or shut up.

Why are you so abusive to the notion that the K-Lite team might have made some serious mistakes? I believe they've fixed up most of their horrible errors in newer builds, but they certainly did cause a huge amount of people to crash when they did things like register a bad DirectShow filter (IAC) on Vista.

The notion that they're testing what they're doing is questionable when others have to bring it to their attention when they create big problems like that. The notion that what they're shipping now is reliable is questionable in that it's usually taken a significant length of time for them to notice and fix issues... after they've corrupted thousands or millions of systems.

They're warez and their quality control has kind of sucked over time. If you want to be an apologist for them, I'm confused, but it's your party. On the one hand, they're certainly better than the blazingly stupid Nimo or ACE, but on the other they are probably the 2nd most damaging codec pack that has ever existed. So they've got that positiveness going for them.

I have an archive of codec packs and helped get certain stupid things in K-Lite fixed. They know of the problems, I know of the problems. If them making stupid mistakes and breaking users bothers you, take it up with them. They should be more stable now, but the proof is in the pudding.

Speaking for myself only as always.

It updates more often because it contains much more codecs than CCCP does, which is one of the reasons why it is so bad. You only need 1 decoder to decode a specific codec, and that's what CCCP gives you. The confusion and clusterf*ck of codecs included in K-lite is a mess that many users don't understand and just end up installing everything included in the pack.

I think Neowin shuns it for including a DivX Pro codec (which is not free), hence why they claim it's "illegal".

Last edited by rpger81 on 30 Jun 2008 - 02:49

From their wiki;

You need to install the codec for decoding and encoding. The videos don't know how to decode themselves.

You do understand that CCCP is Russian for USSR? Hence all the red on the homepage.

Its a BETA. The point is to have mass amounts of people find problems and FIX them. Releasing fast betas means nothing more than progress.

Fast releases of software labeled as final is another story.

well, iv been watching them for the past year and they usually release 2 a month
not 2 within 2 days

ignorance is bliss?

Hmm. CCCP might be a little misleading name, because of those bad codec packs like K-Lite and others. CCCP isn't necessarily just a bunch of codecs wrapped in a nice installer like K-Lite. CCCP installs FFDShow and several other programs to encode/decode video, meaning that it's a much cleaner solution.

Meaning... CCCP won't mess up your computer, because these guys got the 'codec pack' thing right. K-Lite and others will likely mess up your computer, because they don't know how codec packs should work.

Go educate yourself. K-Lite Mega Pack installs everything you need, including the FFDshow, the BS player, Hali, G-Spot, and Media Player Classic.
CCCP is not better in any way.

K-Lite does it with absolutely no regard to codec conflicts and compatibility issues whatsoever.

That's the myth, not the reality. When you install the more recent verions, it checks for conflicts as it's installing.
Also, it's fully configurable during the install so that you can pick and choose which components you want installed and which you want left out. Try that with your much-vaunted CCCP, comrade.

BTW, K-Lite CP 3.9.8 beta is out now. Just thought I'd mention that. If you don't like betas, try the 3.9.5 instead, as it's the latest stable release.
http://www.codecguide.com/

Or if you want to simplify it even further, just use VLC.

I thought this way for a while, but now I just use CCCP. After all, pretty much all it is is FFDshow, MPC (with the default settings all done right), and some package filters for things like Matroska and Vorbis.

Last edited by Aaron44126 on 02 Jul 2008 - 22:29

or use mplayer