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Marcel Klum   on 30 October 2009 - 09:13 · 48 comments & 8107 views

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Canonical announced the upcoming release of Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop Edition, the latest version of the popular Linux desktop distribution. Ubuntu 9.10 brings changes small and large that all have a common purpose - to make Ubuntu the most user-friendly operating system available. Ubuntu 9.10 features a redesigned, faster boot and login experience, a revamped audio framework, and improved 3G broadband connectivity, all of which contribute to a first-class user experience.

Furthermore, the innovative '100 Paper Cuts' initiative organised with the Ubuntu Community allowed users to nominate minor annoyances that impacted their enjoyment of the platform. So far over 50 fixes have been committed, removing minor irritants such as inconsistent naming or poorly organised application choices. Larger scale user experience improvements include a refreshed Ubuntu Software Center, giving users better and more easily understood information about the software they have available - bringing the world of open source applications closer to the user. These improvements, in combination, have a transformative effect on the user experience.

Ubuntu 9.10 also includes the integration of 'Ubuntu One' as a standard component of the desktop. Ubuntu One is an umbrella name for an exciting suite of online services, which were released in beta in May 2009. Ubuntu One provides an enhanced desktop experience, simplifies backup, synchronisation, and sharing of files with an expanded set of features including Tomboy Notes and contacts synchronisation.

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#1 +Mrs_Angel_D on 30 Oct 2009 - 10:56
Kubuntu 9.10 Is amazing
#2 thealexweb on 30 Oct 2009 - 11:38
system requirements?
(1 reply) #3 vetmarkjensen on 30 Oct 2009 - 11:53
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installat...temRequirements
Bare Minimum requirements
* 300 MHz x86 processor
* 64 MB of system memory (RAM)
* At least 4 GB of disk space (for full installation and swap space)
* VGA graphics card capable of 640x480 resolution
* CD-ROM drive or network card

Recommended minimum requirements
* 700 MHz x86 processor
* 384 MB of system memory (RAM)
* 8 GB of disk space
* Graphics card capable of 1024x768 resolution
* Sound card
* A network or Internet connection

Recommended for visual effects
* 1.2 GHz x86 processor
* 384 MB of system memory (RAM)
* Supported graphics card (see DesktopEffects)


EDIT: Oops. Replying to alex, above
#3.1 thealexweb on 31 Oct 2009 - 12:24
markjensen said,
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installat...temRequirements
Bare Minimum requirements
* 300 MHz x86 processor
* 64 MB of system memory (RAM)
* At least 4 GB of disk space (for full installation and swap space)
* VGA graphics card capable of 640x480 resolution
* CD-ROM drive or network card

Recommended minimum requirements
* 700 MHz x86 processor
* 384 MB of system memory (RAM)
* 8 GB of disk space
* Graphics card capable of 1024x768 resolution
* Sound card
* A network or Internet connection

Recommended for visual effects
* 1.2 GHz x86 processor
* 384 MB of system memory (RAM)
* Supported graphics card (see DesktopEffects)


EDIT: Oops. Replying to alex, above



Thanks I'll give it a try.
(2 replies) #4 Xenomorph on 30 Oct 2009 - 14:50
64 MB minimum and 384 Megs recommended sounds like crap you'd see on a Windows box. Firefox alone will happily eat up 256 Megs of RAM.

Let's be serious. You'd probably want 1 Gig minimum for just a box for grandma, and 2 Gigs minimum for your own use, with at least 4 Gigs recommended.

#4.1 ThaCrip on 31 Oct 2009 - 12:26
4GB 'AT LEAST' for recommended?

i think 4GB would be plenty for most users in today's world even for gaming as i cant really think of anything (general use/gaming wise) that would benefit from going from say 4GB to 8GB RAM.

because as far as i can tell anything over 4GB RAM seems like a waste of money for the most part.

although the rest of what you said sounds about right (at least by Windows standards. which is what i am mostly basing this stuff on) ... although i think on Windows XP type PC for a light user (i.e. Grandma in your example) could get by with 512MB of RAM although 1GB would be better and since RAM is cheap nowadays almost no reason not to have at least 1GB.

i got 2GB on my Windows 7 PC and it runs fine on 2GB of ram although more would help i think as far as gaming but since my PC only has a single CORE there is no REAL need for me to upgrade to say 4GB of RAM.... but for general use i think 2GB is sufficient for pretty much everything i do as there is usually 1GB free most of the time and almost nothing (for general programs etc) would burn up the rest of that 1GB.
#4.2 LoveThePenguin on 02 Nov 2009 - 12:31
Xenomorph said,
64 MB minimum and 384 Megs recommended sounds like crap you'd see on a Windows box. Firefox alone will happily eat up 256 Megs of RAM.

Firefox never even approaches 256 on my machine. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen it exceed 100mb. Perhaps you're referring to an older version such as 2.0? 3.5 is snappy and has the smallest memory footprint of all the browsers except textmode such as elinks.

Xenomorph said,
Let's be serious. You'd probably want 1 Gig minimum for just a box for grandma, and 2 Gigs minimum for your own use, with at least 4 Gigs recommended.

You do realise that Ubuntu comes with different desktop environments don't you? Xubuntu is the best flavour for low memory systems, and uses very little resources compared to gnome/kde. I have a machine with 512mb of ram running very nicely under Xubuntu. And additionally I have two other machines with 1gb and 2gb respectively, each running the full gnome interface with compiz quite happily. I'm sorry my friend, but the only OS's that require ludicrous sums of memory such as 4gb just to function properly are windows vista, and windows 7.
(11 replies) #5 Leonick on 30 Oct 2009 - 15:13
I am going to install this again and try it...

"the most user-friendly operating system available." that's funny... user-friendly? well ill say this, when I cant just click install to get flash installed without it telling me it is missing some files the installer depends on that is not user friedly
#5.1 devn00b on 30 Oct 2009 - 16:09
sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and call it a day was pretty user friendly. At least compared to some other distro's
#5.2 Klownicle on 30 Oct 2009 - 16:36
devn00b said,
sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and call it a day was pretty user friendly. At least compared to some other distro's


Unless the OS does this for you, its not user friendly. Someone not at all into the linux enviro may get lost easily.
#5.3 Leonick on 30 Oct 2009 - 17:08
Klownicle said,
Unless the OS does this for you, its not user friendly. Someone not at all into the linux enviro may get lost easily.

exactly

it would be a hell of a lot more user friendly if the installer made for ubuntu which you can get on the adobe flash site would just install instead of complain about some files are missing...

or if it were in the add remove apps or something... you call having to type that in user friendly?? how am i supposed to know all of it just like that??

really i want to use linux, i want to like it but it is making it very hard, maybe it would have been easier if i had no experience with other (more user-friendly) operative systems
#5.4 Keine Lust on 30 Oct 2009 - 18:34
Klownicle said,
Unless the OS does this for you, its not user friendly. Someone not at all into the linux enviro may get lost easily.


The plugin finder for Firefox installs Flash for you on Ubuntu, same as on Windows.
#5.5 Leonick on 30 Oct 2009 - 19:44
Keine Lust said,
The plugin finder for Firefox installs Flash for you on Ubuntu, same as on Windows.

no just like in windows it gives you a manual install link just in windows and send you to adobes site for a non working installer

at least for me
#5.6 Keine Lust on 30 Oct 2009 - 21:10
Leonick said,
no just like in windows it gives you a manual install link just in windows and send you to adobes site for a non working installer

at least for me


Well, it didn't for me. I had the choice between two open source alternatives (Gnash and another one) or Adobe Flash. I selected Adobe Flash and it installed without any problems. 64 bit Ubuntu 9.10, Firefox 3.5.
#5.7 ncc50446 on 31 Oct 2009 - 20:57
All you have to do is go to the add/remove programs and type in 'restricted' I think it was. It will come up with a Ubuntu-restricted' file, along with one for Xubuntu. Install that and comes with mp3, dvd, flash and java, all in one package
#5.8 LoveThePenguin on 02 Nov 2009 - 12:43
Leonick said,
I am going to install this again and try it...

"the most user-friendly operating system available." that's funny... user-friendly? well ill say this, when I cant just click install to get flash installed without it telling me it is missing some files the installer depends on that is not user friedly


Applications menu->Software centre, type flash, then click to install. It seemed easy to me.
#5.9 LoveThePenguin on 02 Nov 2009 - 12:45
devn00b said,
sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and call it a day was pretty user friendly. At least compared to some other distro's

Although I tend to use the cli myself also, it's mostly unnecessary these days
#5.10 LoveThePenguin on 02 Nov 2009 - 12:53
Leonick said,
it would be a hell of a lot more user friendly if the installer made for ubuntu which you can get on the adobe flash site would just install instead of complain about some files are missing

Ubuntu like all linux OS's use something we call a package manager. You don't need to hunt around the net for programs, drivers, or documentation. This includes flash. Just use the Software Centre, and browse the category or type the name of the app. Couldn't be simpler. Compared to windows' chaotic installation/removal system, it's a utopia.

Leonick said,
or if it were in the add remove apps or something... you call having to type that in user friendly?? how am i supposed to know all of it just like that??

What's the difference between typing flash in google and typing flash in the integrated software centre? It's perfectly simple. You can even allow firefox to take you to the flash site just like it does in windows with the plugin finder.

Leonick said,
really i want to use linux, i want to like it but it is making it very hard, maybe it would have been easier if i had no experience with other (more user-friendly) operative systems

Okay I'll bite even though you're trolling and spreading F.U.D. Linux and especially Ubuntu is just as easy if not easier than windows. It will take some time to adjust to where things are, but it's no more different than moving from xp to vista or windows 7. Read the help menu or press F1, and discover all the essentials. If you take one look at it and say I don't know this, then you will inevitably fail, just as you would do with vista.

With Ubuntu, it's rare you even have to install a driver, unlike a fresh windows installation where you have to hunt down and install all the drivers including network (try doing that when you don't have a driver cd!). Everything just works out of the box; quite refreshing actually. Flash and java can be installed easily through the integrated Software Centre (no need to hunt down the software through your browser like in windows!).

Last edited by LoveThePenguin on 02 Nov 2009 - 13:10
#5.11 Deihmos on 02 Nov 2009 - 16:13
Ubuntu isn't nearly as easy as Windows and I just don't understand why anyone would say something like that. For eg. updating Firefox in Ubuntu requires a few steps while it's just a matter of clicking install on Windows. Sudo and all those crap is just a pain....When is the last time anyone had to use Dos in Windows? In windows you can remove a program by simply going to add and remove but with ubuntu a program installs so many different things that you have to manually uninstall. I see ubuntu as something nice ot mess around with but to use as my primary OS no way.
(6 replies) #6 Ravensky on 30 Oct 2009 - 17:49
Doesn't see my windows 7 install nor does it see half of my hard drives like 9.04 did...wtf did they do! I can load Ubuntu from CD and it sees all my hard drives but when I do the install it only sees one and the drop down box to select my other hard drives for install does not work! lol...wow...Looks like I will have to install 9.04 and do an upgrade.../suck
#6.1 Foub on 30 Oct 2009 - 22:55
#6.2 Ravensky on 30 Oct 2009 - 23:11
I don't want to run WUBI I want an ex4 filesystem on my available 100GB partition that for some reason ubuntu 9.04 can see but 9.10 can't...strange!
#6.3 Foub on 30 Oct 2009 - 23:58
Couldn't you just convert after using WUBI?
#6.4 Juan4Ever on 31 Oct 2009 - 23:26
Foub said,

I just love WUBI, and Kubuntu 9.10 look amazing...
#6.5 LoveThePenguin on 02 Nov 2009 - 13:16
Ravensky said,
Doesn't see my windows 7 install nor does it see half of my hard drives like 9.04 did...wtf did they do! I can load Ubuntu from CD and it sees all my hard drives but when I do the install it only sees one and the drop down box to select my other hard drives for install does not work! lol...wow...Looks like I will have to install 9.04 and do an upgrade.../suck

If you have autodetect problems you could always add the entries in /etc/fstab ; type blkid to generate the UUID's rather than specifying the device paths (these can change).
#6.6 Ravensky on 03 Nov 2009 - 00:48
I resolved the issue by installing Ubuntu 9.04 and running sudo update-manager -d and doing the Upgrade that way! I now have 9.10 running perfectly! Not sure what they changed as far as SATA drivers for my Nvidia chipset motherboard but 9.10 does not like it during install. I love Ubuntu though so it's worth the extra step to get it working! I now have Ubuntu 9.10 duel booting with Windows 7 flawlessly!

-Raven
(2 replies) #7 JonathanVP on 30 Oct 2009 - 23:09
Does this still have issues with dual monitors?
#7.1 +Mrs_Angel_D on 31 Oct 2009 - 04:32
JonathanVP said,
Does this still have issues with dual monitors?

According to a few posts on the Ubuntu Forums in Testimonials & Experiences there are people reporting out of the box dual monitor support http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=103
#7.2 JonathanVP on 31 Oct 2009 - 05:28
Awesome! Thanks! May just give this a try!
#8 Neoauld on 31 Oct 2009 - 10:55
huwway, its finally here
(1 reply) #9 Ansuza on 31 Oct 2009 - 19:34
Still looks like crap. Thank god for Kubuntu!
#9.1 LoveThePenguin on 02 Nov 2009 - 13:21
Ansuza said,
Still looks like crap. Thank god for Kubuntu!

Hehe. It can be made to look pretty just install gnome art NG, awn for a Mac OS style launcher bar, and screenlets for the system information widgets etc..
(1 reply) #10 .beta on 31 Oct 2009 - 22:10
More sexier then the others :3
#10.1 LoveThePenguin on 02 Nov 2009 - 13:22
It's damn fine isn't it
(1 reply) #11 cscheatsforyou on 01 Nov 2009 - 11:54
what version should i use? the 32bit or 64bit? i got 2 GB of DDR400 RAM and a 3.8GHz P4
#11.1 LoveThePenguin on 02 Nov 2009 - 13:23
32bit. Little point in using 64 bit unless you have 4+ gigs of ram.
#12 Foub on 01 Nov 2009 - 14:10
Is your CPU 32 bit or 64 Bit? If its just 32 Bit you can't use the 64 Bit version.
(1 reply) #13 cscheatsforyou on 02 Nov 2009 - 10:42
it's 64 bit P4 3.80 GHZ ,ok i'm using 64bit 9.10 right now and i will tell this
, but I notice that 64bit uses over 200 MB RAM extra of my 2gb RAM compared to 32bit, honestly I don't see/feel the difference.
#13.1 LoveThePenguin on 02 Nov 2009 - 13:27
Yep, 64bit is pretty worthless unless you have 4gb+ ram. I have 64bit processors, but still use 32bit (x86) Ubuntu as I only have 2gb myself.
#14 Foub on 02 Nov 2009 - 11:47
Use what makes you happiest. Though, 64 Bit can access far more RAM than 32 Bit as well as other improvements.
(3 replies) #15 Deihmos on 02 Nov 2009 - 16:06
Ubuntu seems to be stuck in the XP era. It is in need of a serious UI update. Ugly as hell...
#15.1 Juan4Ever on 03 Nov 2009 - 23:38
try Kubuntu...
#15.2 Billus on 04 Nov 2009 - 06:10
Whack on a theme, install compiz then it looks like a charm. You also try KDE but it is somewhat glitchy on ATI cards. If you got Nvidia, go for it and compare.
#15.3 Ansuza on 04 Nov 2009 - 13:49
I changed the theme to "Dust" and the icons to "Humanity Dark", switched wallpaper and enabled Compiz. Much better. Honestly, what were they thinking? Brown window borders with an orange background? Are you kidding me?
(1 reply) #16 sonyman on 06 Nov 2009 - 02:59
"Ubuntu. An ancient African word meaning, 'Gentoo is too hard for me.'"
#16.1 tiagosilva29 on 06 Nov 2009 - 11:31
#17 djesteban on 07 Nov 2009 - 20:24
Ubuntu is an awesome distro! But, ohhh lord do they need to chill out with those brown-based theme... it's absolutely fugly
#18 Growled on 10 Nov 2009 - 19:12
A lot of people seem to be hating on 9.10 but I've found it to be the best version yet. Everything just works for me.

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