Slimy Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Riyadh, Nov. 10: Television as we know it today will become obsolete in the next 10 years, said Microsoft founder Bill Gates. He was speaking at the First Global Competitiveness Forum in Riyadh during his first visit to Saudi Arabia on Wednesday. ?I had my children with me recently and while we were walking in a shopping area, there was this record store and my son asked me: ?What is a record?? Well, he has never seen a record. If I take him to a museum, he will see one. Yes, he knows what a TV is, but 10 years from now even TV will be something people will look back on and say: ?Well, how inconvenient that was. You couldn?t carry it with you wherever you wanted to, and you couldn?t organise it the way you would?ve liked to,? Mr Gates said during his keynote address.He was referring to a sea-change in both the way we watch TV, as well the TV sets themselves. Books will become obsolete too, Mr Gates said. ?For interaction today, we primarily use the keyboard. In the future we will be using all sorts of means for interacting with the computer. We are talking about eliminating textbooks or books altogether because we will have a very light thin screen, a tablet-like computer connected to the Internet that you will carry with you at all times.? An interesting revolution is underway, he said. ?Ten years ago, when we thought about photographs, we thought about taking a camera, developing a film. And when we thought about organising and sharing our photo collection, it required working on paper. That was not very efficient. Well, today, if you take a photo you can put it on the Internet and have it published in a very rich, automatic way, and yes, in seconds. You can review your catalogue in a very rich way. Amazing, isn?t it?? Mr Gates gave full support to Saudi Arabia?s economic development plans and announced the signing of a record 14 agreements with Saudi public and private organisations. ?The reason your plan is actually realistic is that you have the resources to make that kind of investment,? he told the top Saudi business, government and IT leaders at the forum. He said Saudi Arabia should draw lessons from the huge successes of both the US and India in the world of information technology. ?The US has been the strongest in terms of research on IT and that?s where investments in universities are going to help you,? he said. ?India has been the strongest in terms of the number of (IT) engineers it has employed in a wide variety of things. There again it was the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) that helped it do that,? he said, heaping fulsome praise on the Indians. Bink Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 some how i doubt this. Television will be here forever. Anyway if we do replace television lets give all of our old TVs to countries with violence problems. People will be too stuck to the tube to do anything violent then. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaKeY Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Cakey: Microsoft as we know it, obsolete in 5 years. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edrick Smith Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 some how i doubt this. Television will be here forever. Anyway if we do replace television lets give all of our old TVs to countries with violence problems. People will be too stuck to the tube to do anything violent then. I doubt that they will be here for ever. Highly Doubt it, Wonder if we will ever become a world like Star Trek where the GUI is replaced by a button interface and TV is replaced by HoloDecks and money is no longer needed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberflasm Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I can fore see a future where home user personal computers are replaced with internet-boxes and other appliances. Everyone will have online storage and subscribe to web apps. Partly due to DRM/Security issues and partly due to the fact that the majority of people use computers for internet and email. Broadband, voice recognition and gesture input will change how we interact with these appliances. Linux will rule the business world. IMO the only reason WEBTV didn't take off was because you couldn't share music with it, edit photos, etc... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Read half of the above. Anyway I tend to agree with what he's saying. TV "as we know it" will go away I'm sure. The future at present I think will be telivision delivered online. Now will that happen in 10 years? I dont think so. Some regions this may happen but theres many parts of the world without the money, connections ect to make it happen too soon. In what form it will take I cant say but the immediate push seems to be media pc's although their uptake seems to be fairly slow. I think the online services and streaming in general will need to improve until computers can generally really take over and I doubt many people are in a situation where they can readily stream HI-Def tv and do so reliably. I mean you have to bare in mind that most of the world are still on standard tv sets and adoption of HD equipment in almost all places has been alot slower than say the US. Price is an issue in alot of places too. Infact almost any medium will take a while to be adopted. DVD's took quite some time before they became the norm and MP3 players were around for quite some time before the iPod became the status symbol that it is today (even they took 2 or 3 generations and a windows version to really catch on). As for the tv not being portable. I dont know what he has in mind their. Projectors? The current push with home cinema is larger and crisper displays...something that doesnt exactly promote portability. Even projectors need some screen or something to look any good on so I think replacing the actual tvset is a bit further down the track. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyranthus Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) i can agree with the tv thing. TVs and computers are beginning to move closer and closer to each other. I mean, we already have WebTV... we have websites with television. there are big screen 42 inch flatscreen televisions that can be used interchangably as computer monitors. its only a matter of time. but the books being extinct thing? i dont think so... never. Edited November 11, 2006 by Cyranthus Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clonk Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Cakey: Microsoft as we know it, obsolete in 5 years. Linux will rule the business world. You both are fools if you actually think that. The same damn thing has been said EVERY year. It hasn't happened and it won't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernic Reporter Posted November 11, 2006 Reporter Share Posted November 11, 2006 To me TV is already obsolete, but books ? never. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaLoHaLo Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 i have not watched tv for at least a year :alien: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.M.K Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Cakey: Microsoft as we know it, obsolete in 5 years. Microsoft obsolete in 5 years??? That's very very doubtful. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogerjones Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Didn't Bill Gates same the exact same thing about spam email? :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Well Analog TV is already if not soon to be obsolete. When was the deadline for tvs to switch to all digital? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XerXis Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 i would miss the feeling of taking a good book from my bookshelf and feeling the weight in my hand, turning the papers, smelling it. It would take away the fun of reading i do however agree with the television thing, i havn't had a television for a few years now, i use webtv and windows media center (i agree it's basicly still the same thing) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted November 11, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 11, 2006 Well Analog TV is already if not soon to be obsolete. When was the deadline for tvs to switch to all digital? According to USA Today it could be Feb. 17, 2009. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 According to USA Today it could be Feb. 17, 2009. intreasting... HD is the way to go now a days. I wonder if there will be a cheeper altertive for those who can't afford a $500-$700 TV. Perhaps offer them "todays" digital at a low price? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterC Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Cakey: Microsoft as we know it, obsolete in 5 years. That would make me happy :whistle: You both are fools if you actually think that. The same damn thing has been said EVERY year. It hasn't happened and it won't. Then why are more people and buisnesses using Linux for desktops and servers? :shiftyninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I personally feel books will disappear. They just aren't convenient and are extremely fragile as a form of information. Now I don't think it will necessarily happen in our lifetime but mark my word it will happen. I mean whats the sense in having a book when you can have a paper thin screen with 2 buttons, one to scroll to tne next page and one to go back. Considering that could store 100's of books it makes pure sense. It would also be cheaper for publishers since books wouldnt be manufactured as much as they are provided electronically. Really I see no advantage to having a book when the right medium arrives for reading electonic documenets. ATM no such device exists that can be used say in bed but it'll happen. The only thing that would keep them going is people latching onto them because they arent ready to let go but im sure many people said records would never be replaced and look what happened. Hell it may not be a sign but how often does software come with electronic documents now days as opposed to the few hundred page books wed get in the past. ALso digital books can be searched, bookmarked, blogged ect ect far easier. But yeah, theyd need a hand held device to cater for their reading and no such device exists yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted November 11, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 11, 2006 I think in 10 years Live TV (I mean Microsoft-style Live, not actually "as it's happening") will be to standard TV what Broadband is to Dial-up now. Some people do still use dial-up! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead.cell Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I personally feel books will disappear. They just aren't convenient and are extremely fragile as a form of information. Now I don't think it will necessarily happen in our lifetime but mark my word it will happen. I mean whats the sense in having a book when you can have a paper thin screen with 2 buttons, one to scroll to tne next page and one to go back. Considering that could store 100's of books it makes pure sense. It would also be cheaper for publishers since books wouldnt be manufactured as much as they are provided electronically. Really I see no advantage to having a book when the right medium arrives for reading electonic documenets. ATM no such device exists that can be used say in bed but it'll happen. The only thing that would keep them going is people latching onto them because they arent ready to let go but im sure many people said records would never be replaced and look what happened. Hell it may not be a sign but how often does software come with electronic documents now days as opposed to the few hundred page books wed get in the past. ALso digital books can be searched, bookmarked, blogged ect ect far easier. But yeah, theyd need a hand held device to cater for their reading and no such device exists yet. Books will never go, especially since everyone nowadays thinks they're a writer. I'd hate to see books be put to a digital medium. For one, I can't STAND reading eBooks or any of the sort online. The only thing I read online are short articles and forums. There's way too much stress for the eyes to be staring at lit-up screen all day. Not to mention that you can't lay down/relax with it (unless you've got a laptop but still). Now, if there was a handheld device, it'd still be the same with a screen. Hell, I get tired of looking at my cell phone menus. :\ Besides, it wouldn't be the same with a regular book. Books don't need batteries. I'd HATE to have to charge my reading device. Books are meant for the rainy days, relax time, or whatever. Hell, they're my only escape from politics and the digital world. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourjays Veteran Posted November 11, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 11, 2006 Besides, it wouldn't be the same with a regular book. Books don't need batteries. I'd HATE to have to charge my reading device. Books are meant for the rainy days, relax time, or whatever. Exactly. When there is a power cut what do I do? Read a book. If books were electronic, there would be literally nothing to do other than sit staring at the walls. The other factor to consider is that books offer a certain "comfort appeal". Paper offers that. Plastic doesn't. Regards TV, I think we will still have TVs, but they will receive the signal via the internet, opposed to an antenna/satellite dish. I think in the future, all digital entertainment (TV, movies, music) will be delivered via the net, especially with the possibility of 50Gb/s+ broadband speeds. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googintosh Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Mr. Gates is out of touch with the rest of society if he thinks that. I'm not even sure what he means by obsolete. Does he mean, the TV will be obsolete because there will be a successor to the TV (while this may be true it does not render the TV obsolete. It just gives us another option of how we want to obtain our information). Or does he mean the TV will be obsolete because nobody will be using it? The reason I am confused derives from his analogy with records. Records are still the preferred medium for DJ's; they're definitely not obsolete. But I don't think Bill has gone to a club in about 25 years so he wouldn't know about that or turntablism. Either that or he needs to rethink his usage of the word obsolete. Then again, this is coming from the same people who said we wouldn't be using paper anymore over a decade ago. Pipe dreams motivated by the ambition to have a little Microsoft O/S in every gadget known to mankind. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brody McKee Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Then why are more people and buisnesses using Linux for desktops and servers? :shiftyninja: Prove it. From what I have read, sales of Windows servers are growing much faster than Linux servers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 It's just like with internet. Soon we will go satalite, and may be even by electricty. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 It disgusts me that Gates' kids had not seen a record before. I hope he was lying for the sake of the article. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/511312-bill-gates-tv-as-we-know-it-obsolete-in-10-years/#findComment-588036533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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