RushHour2k5 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) A critical show stopper bug has been found in the Final Windows 7 RTM 7600.16385 and in the updated 7600.16399 builds on both 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) installs! Thanks to mikerolsonw7c of Windows7Center for informing us of the critical bug. The issue is related to the "chkdsk /r" command on a NTFS drive other than the system drive (Issue not present for FAT32 Drives). For example if you have drive C: and drive D: with C: being Windows 7. If you open "cmd" and run "chkdsk /r D:" on "Stage 4" of chkdsk it will have a very critical memory leak and max out the system memory then BSOD due to lack of memory available. This issue is present on non-Patched 7600.16385 and Patched 7600.16399 RTM builds. This is a very critical bug that Microsoft should have caught before sending 7600.16385 to OEMs. Sadly, now Microsoft will have to fix this and then re-distribute RTM code to OEMs or patch it. I would not doubt myself when Microsoft gets word of this Show Stopper bug if the TechNet/MSDN releases on Thursday the 6th get pushed back to re-implement new code into the RTM build. UPDATE: This issue is also present if you boot from the Windows 7 RTM 7600.16385 DVD and run "chkdsk /r" from WinPE. Also, reported that this issue is present on Windows Server 2008 R2. Edited August 4, 2009 by pilot76103 Title edited, please do not use all caps Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted August 4, 2009 Veteran Share Posted August 4, 2009 Is that really a showstopper? Surely could be fixed very quickly by a patch through Windows Update. Can anyone else even verify that this is true? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpressland2 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Source? CHKDSK /R *any drive* on build 6.1.7600.16384 works fine without any memory leaks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryonhowley Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Have tried on several of my drives no problems at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted August 4, 2009 Veteran Share Posted August 4, 2009 you sure you dont just have hardware problems? works fine here with no problems on a multi terrabyte array Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpressland2 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Yeah, I think it's pretty safe to say that if this IS a real issue, Microsoft will patch it with Windows Update. Odd, I think I read somewhere that people are already getting Windows Updates coming through, I've only had Windows Defender updates so far. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fhpuqrgrpgvirzhpujbj Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 This guy is just looking for attention. I just tried on an external drive and another partition on my main drive, no problems. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Sounds like all that's required in a rather small patch. :sleep: (if it's even broken, and not just a specific issue) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushHour2k5 Posted August 4, 2009 Author Share Posted August 4, 2009 This guy is just looking for attention. I just tried on an external drive and another partition on my main drive, no problems. Believe me I just tested on x86 and x64 it is present. It is only for NTFS drives not FAT32. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ba'al Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Nasty... they should've fixed that before sending it off. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fhpuqrgrpgvirzhpujbj Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Believe me I just tested on x86 and x64 it is present. It is only for NTFS drives not FAT32. You really think I would have any FAT Drives? They're both NTFS, and I had no problems. Also, from a programmer's standpoint, this would make no sense. What variable or resource would need to be created/looped completely separately from that of doing this to your C:\ drive? Enumerations of files and drives would be the same in both. This is either fake, or specific to you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Confirmed. Memory usage also rises alarmingly quickly, climbed to the level shown in the screenshot in about 45 seconds (I have 8GB of ram). Pretty serious bug this, amazed it skipped through quality control, although when you close chkdisk memory usage returns to normal Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.r.olson Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I can assure you that I am not attempting to gain attention by posting a legitimate bug I have found and verified on 2 of my personal machines, both running 7600.16385 x64. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted August 4, 2009 Veteran Share Posted August 4, 2009 I can assure you that I am not attempting to gain attention by posting a legitimate bug I have found and verified on 2 of my personal machines, both running 7600.16385 x64. Dont worry, it has been confirmed by more than one. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalint Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 You really think I would have any FAT Drives? They're both NTFS, and I had no problems.Also, from a programmer's standpoint, this would make no sense. What variable or resource would need to be created/looped completely separately from that of doing this to your C:\ drive? Enumerations of files and drives would be the same in both. This is either fake, or specific to you. lol really! IDK anyone who uses fat anyone Except that guy! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManMountain Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) I can duplicate this bug as well. Edited August 4, 2009 by ManMountain Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushHour2k5 Posted August 4, 2009 Author Share Posted August 4, 2009 UPDATED main post with screenshot for proof. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.r.olson Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 This guy is just looking for attention. I just tried on an external drive and another partition on my main drive, no problems. Wow, look at the screenshots. Amazing that somebody who is only "looking for attention" can manage to get proof of his claims and not be the only one finding the bug. I guess we're all just looking for attention. Seriously though, does anybody have any ideas as to a possible workaround for fix until we get an official hotfix from Microsoft? One person I spoke with attempted to copy chkdsk.exe from Vista x64 to 7 x64 and chkdsk would crash immediately. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpressland2 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well, again, no sign of it on my rig. How odd, I wonder if this would also apply if scanning the drive during boot? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalint Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Okay instead of information us. GET on Microsoft Connect and report it!!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Elі Subscriber² Posted August 4, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted August 4, 2009 Yeap, confirmed here too, though I wouldn't necessarily call it a showstopper bug :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerade01 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Confirmed. Memory usage also rises alarmingly quickly, climbed to the level shown in the screenshot in about 45 seconds (I have 8GB of ram).Pretty serious bug this, amazed it skipped through quality control, although when you close chkdisk memory usage returns to normal I can assure you that I am not attempting to gain attention by posting a legitimate bug I have found and verified on 2 of my personal machines, both running 7600.16385 x64. First, both of you post exact hardware specs. Lets see if we can find something in common. Second, I dont believe this bug at all. I think it has to do with certain HW/SW configs. Note that the first guy (with screenshots) gets a BSOD and the second does not. (My opinion) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.r.olson Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Machine 1 is a Dell Inspiron 1521 Laptop (AMD X2 TL-58, 4GB DDR2 RAM, WD Scorpio Black Hard Drive, ATI x1200 series graphics). Machine 2 is a Dell XPS 420 (Intel Q6600 OC'd to 3.0GHz, 8GB DDR2 RAM, WD Caviar Blue Hard Drives 640GB & 1TB, ATI HD2400 Pro graphics). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManMountain Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 My machine specs in sig. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well, again, no sign of it on my rig. How odd, I wonder if this would also apply if scanning the drive during boot? You are not running the exact builds that its happening on. Despite your theory of "nothing major happening between 84 and 85", something major enough happened to draw out this bug. I can confirm it happens on 16399 x64 as well on my system. EDIT: Specs: Q6700 @ 3.8Ghz 4890 Toxic @ 1000Mhz core/1125Mhz mem 4GB DDR2 Ram @950Mhz (rated to handle up to 1000Mhz) 120GB SSD System Drive (C:) 500GB 7200RPM HDD (D:) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/806282-chkdsk-bug-in-windows-7-rtm-build-76001638516399/#findComment-591376812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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