morphen Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 http://www.businessinsider.com/shooting-at-kids-camp-in-norway-2011-7 businessinsider has a timeline-overview from the attack. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphen Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 http://news.sky.com/...ills_At_Least_7 Sky news is operating with the suspects with full name. This is a comparison of the picture in media in norway, and the one from his FB profile...same guy. and he is a freemason...wtf? http://www.facebook....&type=1 https://www.facebook...100002651290254 twitter; https://twitter.com/#!/AndersBBreivik only one tweet; One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interest. seems both his twitter and facebook account were created July 17. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Flash Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 This is why I haven't pointed fingers. Let the dust settle before whipping yourselves into a frenzy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackTK Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 ^^What? the police believes the attacks are not linked to an "Islamic" terrorist group?!!! El Zawahry must be really angry now, he was trying to break his own record for the most consecutive terrorist attacks in the history. But you've got to love the PM's speech "We are a small nation and a proud nation. No-one will bomb us to silence, no-one will shoot us to silence." What is this guy talking about?! He couldn't have come up with a more irrelevant statement. I have a feeling though that a so called "Islamic" terrorist group will eventually claim responsibility. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphen Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 please my earlier post. This was the work of one man, a right-wing extremist. Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami falsly claimed responsibility. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackTK Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 please my earlier post. This was the work of one man, a right-wing extremist. Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami falsly claimed responsibility. Yeah, I have checked them. Thanks for the continuous stream of updates. My heart is out for you guys in Norway, We've had several terrorist attacks during the last two decades and I know how terrible the situation can be. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Terrible, terrible tragedy, especially when children are killed. I'll simply leave it at that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Flash Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Wow! The death toll from shooting is apparently 80 now :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphen Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Wow! The death toll from shooting is apparently 80 now :no: at least 80, at Ut?ya...all children and young adults age 15-25... :( All of Norway is crying :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Markus Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Absolutely terrible! My thoughts are with the Norwegian people. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted July 23, 2011 Veteran Share Posted July 23, 2011 at least 80, at Ut?ya...all children and young adults age 15-25... :( All of Norway is crying :( That is absolutely tragic. Very sorry to hear that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I've made trips into Norway while attending symposia at the Karolinska Institutet in Sweden. Very, very open and friendly people and I enjoyed Oslo a lot. So very sad. I dag, vi er alle nordmenn :( (Today, we are all Norwegians) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosslover Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 out of curiousity, why is everyone saying this guy is a right wing nut? has it been confirmed his politics are on the right side as opposed to the left? or he could be apolitical. also what are Norway's gun control laws like. how was he able to get his guns? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Norway has high gun ownership with a low gun crime rate, but it does have restrictions on how powerful a handgun can be sold - ex: my .50 Desert Eahle would be illegal. Permits and cause for ownership are standard even for sports guns like rifles and shotguns. Crooks and crazies don't often follow the rules. and anyone with access to a basic metal shop with a lathe or multi-tool can make a gun from scratch. Easier than you think. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594182914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Maleficarum Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 out of curiousity, why is everyone saying this guy is a right wing nut? has it been confirmed his politics are on the right side as opposed to the left? or he could be apolitical. He was not apolitical, that much is obvious from the fact that he attacked a political gathering, which stinks of political motivation. As for his political stance, http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.adressa.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Farticle1665732.ece http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10080610 He supposedly (I'm saying 'supposedly' because after the story broke his Facebook profile has been removed by FB) described himself as a Christian with conservative views on Facebook, but he removed that information a couple of days back. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tv2.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Fanders-behring-breivik-32-i-oslo-ble-paagrepet-etter-bombe-og-massedrap-3544629.html&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=UTF-8 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mokthraka Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Norway has high gun ownership with a low gun crime rate, but it does have restrictions on how powerful a handgun can be sold - ex: my .50 Desert Eahle would be illegal. Permits and cause for ownership are standard even for sports guns like rifles and shotguns. Crooks and crazies don't often follow the rules. and anyone with access to a basic metal shop with a lathe or multi-tool can make a gun from scratch. Easier than you think. Exactly. People think its impossible to just make a gun. Its really not hard. I kbow there is a town in Pakistan thatis known for making near perfect replicas. Right down to the serial number. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 A town near here had their high school metal shop teacher arrested by the locals and ATF - he had his charges making sub-machine guns. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Wow 80 dead already and many in critical conditions. Could easily surpass 100. Why Norway? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykranth Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Wow 80 dead already and many in critical conditions. Could easily surpass 100. Why Norway? Latest info gave the number of 87 victims: most of the victims have been killed at the island by the gunman. Why Norway? It is a mistake to think that Scandinavia societies are peaceful and polished: there are rancors, racism and extremist fringe groups. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylcard Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Wow 80 dead already and many in critical conditions. Could easily surpass 100. Why Norway? Because he's a Norwegian. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphen Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Norway has high gun ownership with a low gun crime rate, but it does have restrictions on how powerful a handgun can be sold - ex: my .50 Desert Eahle would be illegal. Permits and cause for ownership are standard even for sports guns like rifles and shotguns. Crooks and crazies don't often follow the rules. and anyone with access to a basic metal shop with a lathe or multi-tool can make a gun from scratch. Easier than you think. he had registeded ownership of three weapons; a machine gun of some type, a glock 17 and a shotgun. If you have a clean record, you need basic training combined with a membership to a registered "gun club". To get a shotgun, you need a hunters permit (clean record + an official training course). as for the right-wing nut thing; read this, it sums it pretty well. http://translate.goo...rtid%3D10080621 Some things are lost in translation; this part : Breivik has previously referred to Gro as "landsmo (s) container." Gro Harlem Brundtland is known as "Landsmoderen" - "mother of the country" Breivik's wordplay is "LandsmoRderen" - "killer of the country" . Btw; official death tolls are up to 91 now, 84 at Ut?ya, and 7 in the explotion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Btw; official death tolls are up to 91 now, 84 at Ut?ya, and 7 in the explotion. I still don't get how one man killed 91 people, 84 by his own hand up close. I guess the small island enabled him as it trapped his victims. He knew what he was doing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buio Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I still don't get how one man killed 91 people, 84 by his own hand up close. I guess the small island enabled him as it trapped his victims. He knew what he was doing. The killing on the island went on for two hours according to news. :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphen Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I still don't get how one man killed 91 people, 84 by his own hand up close. I guess the small island enabled him as it trapped his victims. He knew what he was doing. he knew very well what he was doing. the reason for the "low" death tolls from the explosion, was due to that the norwegian government has their summer vacation. The real target was the political youth camp. The bomb was probably ANFO, made with artificial fertilizer and diesel. From wikipedia: " Breivik moved in late June or early July to the rural small town of Rena in ?mot, Hedmark county, west of Oslo,[3] where he operated a farming sole proprietorship under the name "Breivik Geofarm".[8] It has been speculated that he could have used the company as a cover to legally obtain large amounts of artificial fertilizer and other chemicals for the manufacturing of fertilizer explosives.[3] " the company was created 18. mai 2009. This shows that this was planned. there were 700 youths at Ut?ya, on a limited area. Also, he was dressed as a policeman. this gave him the element of surprise. Witnesses says he was firing one shot about every 10 seconds, cheering and screaming battlecries in between. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwnz0r3d Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 insane news to wake up and register on all the tv and radio-channels. the number of deaths far surpasses anything that has happened here in recent times. terrible terrible news :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1014010-major-explosion-in-oslo-government-building/page/4/#findComment-594183216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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