Worthington Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 wow just wow...soon science will prove that sexual preference is genetic but there are still guys like Worthington who thinks it's a choice.It's common sense,your hormones start to develop at a certain age and you suddenly feel less room in your pants.(don't tell me you can control your weiner :laugh: ) And why on earth would a straight guy care so much about this :whistle: .When i close my eyes to sleep i don't think "wow how immoral are these gay peple"...why? because straight men simply don't care. I don't think its a choice. I just don't think there is a "gay gene" or that people are "born gay" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594257974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvesHunt Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 now that is some Seinfeld material we have here :laugh: ah your gay! you brought Seinfeld into this conversation /s :shiftyninja: /jk Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594257978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Hmmm, lets see, they disrupted the natural order of things for these birds and expected them to be hetero yet they become homosexual Thanks for proving my point, little guy. Given that birds dont have a moral standard, being raised by other homosexual birds goes to show that the natural order of things isnt as natural as you believe it to be. Little guy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594257980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Eye Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 @Worthington - You say that homosexuality is to "not be tolerated by moral men" please explain what you believe should be done to homosexuals? How would you as a "moral man" go about in solving what you believe to be a problem? I ask only because your stance on this baffles me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594257982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiddle Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 actually its all about making a point. See something called Free Will lets me do this. I could easily go out and have a gay encounter just to prove a point that you not born gay. In the end of the day you would have to fined some one else to prove that point since human morals forbid me to make that decision. the other point you never ever seen a heterosexual have to defend there sexuality were Homosexual always have to feel like they have to defend, Via, Post, news, Gay Prides, Movies, All form of media Religious man claims free will is real! :-P Well that is a given. Almost every high school student is harassed in some way, and I guarantee (from common knowledge) every openly homosexual high school student is 3 times as likely to have been verbally, physically, and sexually abused. So yeah, lets see you not defend yourself in the same situation, having gone through it at a young age to adulthood. And you wonder whos fault that is, surely isnt the gays calling each other "f@gs". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594257986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamminium Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Guys, great place to continue the discussion: https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857862-official-thread-about-gay-issues/ :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594257990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratoner Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 ah your gay! you brought Seinfeld into this conversation /s :shiftyninja: /jk i'll take that as a compliment :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594257994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthington Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 now that is some Seinfeld material we have here :laugh: I know right? Hey let's force their birds to only be with the same sex for their entire developmental stage of their lives, and if they become gay, it was because they were born that way! :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594257996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 well ask all the *gay people* why they have to defend there sexuality well the rest of us don't I could not give you a answer to that. Wrong person to ask. BTW did you know when a male dog has sex with another male dog (wolves, dogs ect) its not about sex at all. its about dominance. I doubt gay people feel the need to be dominate. Why dont you ask those that criticize gays about being gay because THEY dont like others being gay. Then you might be able to get somewhere. You can start with the Phelps family. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594257998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthington Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Given that birds dont have a moral standard, being raised by other homosexual birds goes to show that the natural order of things isnt as natural as you believe it to be. Little guy. The natural order was disrupted for them. Get it through your head. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratoner Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I don't think its a choice. I just don't think there is a "gay gene" or that people are "born gay" so that means you weren't born straight either.Since there is no gene that decides a man or a woman to be straight or gay they only morally choose their path.So If you had sex with a man you wouldn't be repulsed by it. Is that what you're saying? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvesHunt Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Religious man claims free will is real! :-P Well that is a given. Almost every high school student is harassed in some way, and I guarantee (from common knowledge) every openly homosexual high school student is 3 times as likely to have been verbally, physically, and sexually abused. So yeah, lets see you not defend yourself in the same situation, having gone through it at a young age to adulthood. And you wonder whos fault that is, surely isnt the gays calling each other "f@gs". dam rights I claim free will is real. Do I pull the Trigger or do I not pull the Trigger? Do I jump or do I not Jump? Do I let go or Do I hold on? Do I have sex with a male or do I not have sex with a male. ohh so many choices Surly its not the will of god for me to have sex with the same sex. I still could do it but that just be one more moral sin agents me in the end. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthington Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 @Worthington - You say that homosexuality is to "not be tolerated by moral men" please explain what you believe should be done to homosexuals? How would you as a "moral man" go about in solving what you believe to be a problem? I ask only because your stance on this baffles me. Homosexuals should be allowed to live as they choose as long as don't push their agendas on heterosexual people. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Eye Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 nvm this post Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 The natural order was disrupted for them. Get it through your head. This example of the birds just shows that they adapt and are open to it. Homosexuality in the animal kingdom happens naturally without human intervention. Try understanding that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Eye Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Homosexuals should be allowed to live as they choose as long as don't push their agendas on heterosexual people. That sounds suspicously like tolerance... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Homosexuals should be allowed to live as they choose as long as don't push their agendas on heterosexual people. But its ok the other way around. You cant marry because we straight people decided you're not normal. Once again Pot meet kettle. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamminium Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 dam rights I claim free will is real. Do I pull the Trigger or do I not pull the Trigger? Do I jump or do I not Jump? Do I let go or Do I hold on? Do I have sex with a male or do I not have sex with a male. ohh so many choices Surly its not the will of god for me to have sex with the same sex. I still could do it but that just be one more moral sin agents me in the end. But but since God, being omniscient, will see which decision you'll make, that means you're destined to take that action. How is that free will? I mean surely, it's just a delusion, right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratoner Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Do I have sex with a male or do I not have sex with a male. ohh so many choices assuming you're a straight man...would you be able stop your penis from getting an erection if you saw Megan Fox naked in front of you?Could you control that?No...and that's where the genes break in..it's not a choice Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiddle Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 dam rights I claim free will is real. Do I pull the Trigger or do I not pull the Trigger? Do I jump or do I not Jump? Do I let go or Do I hold on? Do I have sex with a male or do I not have sex with a male. ohh so many choices Surly its not the will of god for me to have sex with the same sex. I still could do it but that just be one more moral sin agents me in the end. Maybe it is me, but I do not see the correlation in your reply, to mine. If homophobes didn't gay bash, then there wouldnt be such a need for them being overly defensive. If you are trying to say they shouldnt be homosexual in the first place, than I have no reason to continue on with you, as you will never understand true morals and being a good, righteous person. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvesHunt Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 But its ok the other way around. You cant marry because we straight people decided you're not normal. Once again Pot meet kettle. Marriage was designed for man and women and only recently been legal in some places. Don;t mean a Pastor has to accept to preform the marriage and it dosen't mean its right to get married to the same sex even though its legal Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiddle Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 assuming you're a straight man...would you be able stop your penis from getting an erection if you saw Megan Fox naked in front of you?Could you control that?No...and that's where the genes break in..it's not a choice (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthington Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 so that means you weren't born straight either.Since there is no gene that decides a man or a woman to be straight or gay they only morally choose their path.So If you had sex with a man you wouldn't be repulsed by it. Is that what you're saying? No. All people are born heterosexual into this world. They are repulsed by homosexuality until they are forced into it by sexual abuse, develop a mental disorder, or suffer from a physiological disorder that secondarily affects their mind, chemically. This is my opinion, based on what I have seen so far in my personal, professional and private study life. This example of the birds just shows that they adapt and are open to it. Homosexuality in the animal kingdom happens naturally without human intervention. Try understanding that. Sounds like you agree with me, because I am saying you can make a straight person gay. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamminium Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 No. All people are born heterosexual into this world. They are repulsed by homosexuality until they are forced into it by sexual abuse, develop a mental disorder, or suffer from a physiological disorder that secondarily affects their mind, chemically. This is my opinion, based on what I have seen so far in my personal, professional and private study life. And you failed to address my question many pages back: since when has anecdotal evidence constituted a maxim? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthington Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 But its ok the other way around. You cant marry because we straight people decided you're not normal. Once again Pot meet kettle. I don't care if gay people marry. If things were up to me, all gays can get married. And you failed to address my question many pages back: since when has anecdotal evidence constituted a maxim? I never said it was considered as such. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/7/#findComment-594258062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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