vincent Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 And that mindset you got from such an insidious age we live in is exactly what these "academics" want: to either have everybody frolic in their degeneracy with them, or stop having a healthy relationship that always leads to a family, and die off as the generations pass. Don't give up. Just look for people who aren't pro-degeneracy. Look for people who you might consider "conservative", because those people are just the REAL normal people, not the sick people the media portrays as happy and healthy. Define normal.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594269482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted August 29, 2011 Subscriber¹ Share Posted August 29, 2011 None of those things constitute components of human sexuality. Intimacy is part of human sexuality, but you are more than welcome to prove otherwise. It's sad how many people seem to think that feelings and intimacy have anything to do with deep throating a penis. Are you suggesting that homosexuals or bi can't experience intimate relationships and are only concerned with "deep throating a penis"? The problem is that only sexual acts, sexual foreplay and sexual expression are sexuality, and you people think that hugging, feelings, connections have anything to do with that. Yes, it's all part of the attraction. By lumping them all together, all you do is teach young people that giving a ******* is an way to connect with a person when all it is is physical stimulation and has nothing to do with the bonds humans form with each other. Ever wonder why there's so many kids getting pregnant at age 15? Ever wonder why many guys can't keep a steady girlfriend and just sit around on porn sites? Ever wonder why more and more women "experiment" with other women in high school and college? It's because these so-called academics, Freudian psychologist, sexual "liberation" movements and sex education courses in school have purposely reprogrammed people to think like animals. To consider mere genital stimulation as a proper form of human bond formation rather than just being the small, separate sets of acts that are meaningless other than the purposes of procreation and recreational activity. Degeneracy of the species, in its purest form. We're turned from thinkers, lovers, and seekers of higher meaning to fetishists, chronic masturbators, and sex crazed nihilists who believe that the only things that matter are the stimulation of their genitals and anus...followed by a hug of course, just to keep it "nice". By lumping them all together, all you do is teach young people that giving a ******* is an way to connect with a person when all it is is physical stimulation and has nothing to do with the bonds humans form with each other. Ever wonder why there's so many kids getting pregnant at age 15? Ever wonder why many guys can't keep a steady girlfriend and just sit around on porn sites? Ever wonder why more and more women "experiment" with other women in high school and college? It's because these so-called academics, Freudian psychologist, sexual "liberation" movements and sex education courses in school have purposely reprogrammed people to think like animals. To consider mere genital stimulation as a proper form of human bond formation rather than just being the small, separate sets of acts that are meaningless other than the purposes of procreation and recreational activity. Degeneracy of the species, in its purest form. We're turned from thinkers, lovers, and seekers of higher meaning to fetishists, chronic masturbators, and sex crazed nihilists who believe that the only things that matter are the stimulation of their genitals and anus...followed by a hug of course, just to keep it "nice". woah..you have issues, man... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594270076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nominak Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 None of those things constitute components of human sexuality. It's sad how many people seem to think that feelings and intimacy have anything to do with deep throating a penis. You know what happens when people hate homosexuality this much? They're usually in the closet themselves ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594270260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Define normal.. The problem with crazy people is that they dont know they are crazy. So normal to crazy people is still crazy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594270398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Wow, heated thread. Well, from what I have read, I have come to a few conclusions, well, only two. Number one, mudslag loves the bootay! :laugh: And second, I agree with what I have read from Worthington. Well, most of it. I feel like attraction is normal and you can't control who you are attracted to. As far as if it's right, that's debatable. They way I look at it, if two people were "meant" to be together they would be able to biologically have children. And before you self righteous folks on Neowin start saying "Heterosexual couples can't have kids, blah blah blah..." I understand sterilization so no need to get into that. I love gay people, I think they are the most genuine people on Earth and have been around a lot of them since I was a child. My mother had a few gay friends and to this date I support gay marriage. It didn't change my mind in the least bit. I can't take my eyes off teh ladiez... :D *In the middle of 100 things but had to post this so if I misspoke somewhere I would be glad to clarify. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594270468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 As far as if it's right, that's debatable. They way I look at it, if two people were "meant" to be together they would be able to biologically have children. Why :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594270482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Why :huh: That's why I put the quotation marks. You can be with whoever you feel you should be with. I won't judge you and support you 110% no ifs ands or buts. All I'm saying is that if two men or two women get together, there is no chance of procreation which is vital to our species surviving, no questioning or debating that. So if it were "normal" all the heterosexual couples can be wiped out and the human race can still go on. That's not the case and will never be the case but if all homosexuals were wiped out **NOT SAYING THEY SHOULD BE** the species can still survive. I wish we could all get along but I don't have much faith in the human race because the amount of ignorance and intolerance is crazy and it will never change. But then again, this is just my opinion... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594270514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 That's why I put the quotation marks. You can be with whoever you feel you should be with. I won't judge you and support you 110% no ifs ands or buts. All I'm saying is that if two men or two women get together, there is no chance of procreation which is vital to our species surviving, no questioning or debating that. So if it were "normal" all the heterosexual couples can be wiped out and the human race can still go on. That's not the case and will never be the case but if all homosexuals were wiped out **NOT SAYING THEY SHOULD BE** the species can still survive. I wish we could all get along but I don't have much faith in the human race because the amount of ignorance and intolerance is crazy and it will never change. But then again, this is just my opinion... homosexual couples do adopt children that are heterosexual, so fear of the human race going extinct by t3h gays is false... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594270528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 homosexual couples do adopt children that are heterosexual, so fear of the human race going extinct by t3h gays is false... Of course it's false. Gay people have no more chance of causing the human species to die out than blacks, whites, asians, etc but you get what I was trying to say. It makes me crazy that people are so intolerant. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594270606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Anyone who uses the term academics in quote marks and as a dergoatory term kinda shows themselves up! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594270630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Wow, heated thread. Well, from what I have read, I have come to a few conclusions, well, only two. Number one, mudslag loves the bootay! :laugh: And second, I agree with what I have read from Worthington. Well, most of it. I feel like attraction is normal and you can't control who you are attracted to. As far as if it's right, that's debatable. They way I look at it, if two people were "meant" to be together they would be able to biologically have children. And before you self righteous folks on Neowin start saying "Heterosexual couples can't have kids, blah blah blah..." I understand sterilization so no need to get into that. I love gay people, I think they are the most genuine people on Earth and have been around a lot of them since I was a child. My mother had a few gay friends and to this date I support gay marriage. It didn't change my mind in the least bit. I can't take my eyes off teh ladiez... :D *In the middle of 100 things but had to post this so if I misspoke somewhere I would be glad to clarify. :) First off Im hetero but the reason I stand behind this cause is because I see similarities with my relationship with my wife. Im white and she is black and it wasnt that long ago where couples like us faced similar issues that gays face today, bigotry, hatred, isolation, lack of the same freedoms. I also think its retarded that just because two people want to be together that society frowns upon them if they are the same sex. As for being ment to be together, that too is retarded. Plenty of people all over this world are together and never plan on having children or end up doing. Add the fact that relationships arent even a necessity for procreation. Also no one mentioned sterilization and that has zero to do with this topic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594271006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyond Godlike Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Stop feeding the troll guys. People as ignorant as Worthington will probably never realise how ignorant they are. He will continue believing what he does, and he is perfectly entitled to do so. I know it's frustrating when he posts his invalid, ignorant and somewhat offensive beliefs in the forum, but it's probably best if we just ignore them and continue to have an intelligent discussion. -er0n Yep, let the inbreeds tend to their farms and church meetings, rest of us can live on knowing that progress is inevitable, that the world only moves forward. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594271018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthington Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 First off Im hetero but the reason I stand behind this cause is because I see similarities with my relationship with my wife. Im white and she is black and it wasnt that long ago where couples like us faced similar issues that gays face today, bigotry, hatred, isolation, lack of the same freedoms. I also think its retarded that just because two people want to be together that society frowns upon them if they are the same sex. As for being ment to be together, that too is retarded. Plenty of people all over this world are together and never plan on having children or end up doing. Add the fact that relationships arent even a necessity for procreation. Also no one mentioned sterilization and that has zero to do with this topic. I don't think there's anything wrong with you marrying a black woman and it is so different from what is going on with homosexuals that you shouldn't really see a similarity to it. However, it is your right to feel that way. I must say though, that I am friendly with some of the people who claim you shouldn't date out of your race and while you may consider them bigoted, they still wouldn't kill or hurt you if they saw you walking down the street with your wife. If you want to be consistently tolerant, you must do no harm towards the intolerant, just as they would do no actual harm to you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594271036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I don't think there's anything wrong with you marrying a black woman and it is so different from what is going on with homosexuals that you shouldn't really see a similarity to it. However, it is your right to feel that way. I must say though, that I am friendly with some of the people who claim you shouldn't date out of your race and while you may consider them bigoted, they still wouldn't kill or hurt you if they saw you walking down the street with your wife. If you want to be consistently tolerant, you must do no harm towards the intolerant, just as they would do no actual harm to you. Why shouldnt I see the similarities, cause you say so? And I know its ok being married to a woman of another race, my point is that it wasnt something socially acceptable in the past. People tried to tell others who they could and couldnt marry in the past, its no different today. It's everyone's right to hate whom ever but you become a bigot when you try to dictate the world around you because of that hate and intolerance. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594271102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthington Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Why shouldnt I see the similarities, cause you say so? And I know its ok being married to a woman of another race, my point is that it wasnt something socially acceptable in the past. People tried to tell others who they could and couldnt marry in the past, its no different today. It's everyone's right to hate whom ever but you become a bigot when you try to dictate the world around you because of that hate and intolerance. If you think people have the right to hate whatever they want, which I agree with, what's the problem? As long as they don't act on it by infringing on the rights of others, there's no issue. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594271120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPX Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I proved that everyone is a little bit gay, so I don't know why people are still arguing. The test is simple: If you don't watch porn, you are a little gay. If you watch porn, and you watch 2 women have sex, then you are watching lesbian women, which is by definition homosexual (but I agree, hot). If you watch porn, and you watch a man and a woman having sex, then you are looking at another man's junk and that makes you a little gay. If you watch porn, and you watch 2 men have sex, then you are gay as a feather. So there, EVERYONE is at least a little bit gay. E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E. What if you just watch woman masturbate? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594271144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 If you think people have the right to hate whatever they want, which I agree with, what's the problem? As long as they don't act on it by infringing on the rights of others, there's no issue. Hating and acting on that hate are two completely different things. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594271160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthington Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Hating and acting on that hate are two completely different things. i agree but acting on the hate has to infringe on people's rights in order to be unlawful. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594271168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
P1ckles Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I don't know about everyone being a little bit bisexual, but everyone is a little bit gay. Its easy to prove really. Since you are gay I was wondering if you could answer a question from a homosexual perspective? Do you cringe if you're checking out an ass that you suspect belongs to a male but then find out it's actually a woman's? Just curious. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594271210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 First off Im hetero but the reason I stand behind this cause is because I see similarities with my relationship with my wife. Im white and she is black and it wasnt that long ago where couples like us faced similar issues that gays face today, bigotry, hatred, isolation, lack of the same freedoms. I also think its retarded that just because two people want to be together that society frowns upon them if they are the same sex. As for being ment to be together, that too is retarded. Plenty of people all over this world are together and never plan on having children or end up doing. Add the fact that relationships arent even a necessity for procreation. Also no one mentioned sterilization and that has zero to do with this topic. You missed my point but okay, carry on. **Looks for popcorn** Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594273742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 You missed my point but okay, carry on. **Looks for popcorn** By all means explain what point I missed. While your at it, explain what sterilization had anything to do with the topic? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594273964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 If you think people have the right to hate whatever they want, which I agree with, what's the problem? As long as they don't act on it by infringing on the rights of others, there's no issue. Because they are using this 'hate' to vote against gay issues rather than think logically does it affect them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594274004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthington Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Because they are using this 'hate' to vote against gay issues rather than think logically does it affect them. The real criminals are the ones who even let that be put up for a vote to cause these fights in the first place. All marriages between 2 people of legal age should be considered lawful. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594274016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 By all means explain what point I missed. While your at it, explain what sterilization had anything to do with the topic? Okay, cool. First point that I THINK you missed was when I said you like the booty I was referring to black women. I am a black male and I have a ton of white friends and one of my close friends said that he can't handle all the booty with black chicks, it was a joke. You went on to point out that you were heterosexual. I figured that. I could be wrong about you missing it tho so I will carry on... First off Im hetero... As far as sterilization, I think you either skipped or misread what I said right before that so I will quote myself... They way I look at it, if two people were "meant" to be together they would be able to biologically have children. And before you self righteous folks on Neowin start saying "Heterosexual couples can't have kids, blah blah blah..." I understand sterilization so no need to get into that. I pointed out that gay couples can't have children and that's why I don't see it as normal. One problem I find with the self righteous here on Neowin is that they are sticklers for the smallest thing which is sad because all it does is cause confusion. I would EXPECT someone to say the third thing I put in bold "Heterosexual couples can't have kids" because again, we have a lot of what I call clueless people on Neowin that argue just to argue. We all know that biologically a man and a woman can have a child. A man and a man can't, a woman and a woman can't. But because so many people like to grasp for straws, I pointed out infertility or in my words sterilization issues before anyone else brought it up to put homosexual couples and heterosexual couples on the same level so to speak. It just furthers my stance that I agree with Worthington on a lot of what he has to say, people keep bringing up **** that has nothing to do with the topic and using it as a talking point, that does include you by the way. I know a lot of people that refuse to have kids and they are heterosexual couples. But, you went on to say this... As for being ment to be together, that too is retarded. Plenty of people all over this world are together and never plan on having children or end up doing. Add the fact that relationships arent even a necessity for procreation. Who cares if relationships aren't a necessity for procreation? Worthington, from what I have read, is pointing out that it is unnatural for homosexual couples to be together. I haven't read EVERYTHING he has written but again, from what I have read, I agree. That doesn't mean that I disagree with them being together. If a heterosexual couple decides to have kids, providing one partner isn't sterile, they can do so. It's NOT the same for a homosexual couple. I don't even see why the thread has to go past that... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594274636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Annd, let's kill that attraction debate, seriously. Yes I used 2 "n"s on purpose to emphasize a missed opportunity to make a point the first time. :p Just because you are attracted to someone or something doesn't make it right. But again, I COMPLETELY agree with their right to be together and if a bill ever came across my way, which I think one did at one point, I would vote yes for the right for homosexual couples to get married. They deserve to be happy just like everyone else. As far as attractions, I'm guessing you guys are saying these people should get married as well right? http://www.inquisitr.com/6745/japanese-man-wants-to-marry-anime-character/ http://www.glamour.com/sex-love-life/blogs/smitten/2009/08/this-woman-has-fallen-in-love.html There are a ton more examples but I'm done posting them. Google is great for that... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1020546-bisexual-men-science-says-theyre-real/page/15/#findComment-594275040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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