PGHammer Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 They kinda incorporated Windows Defender with MSE The beta of Windows Defender included with the WDP *is* MSE - it even uses the same virus definitions (as does the commercial/enterprise version, Forefront Security). The current public beta of MSE is the same code as Defender in Windows Developer Preview - the two will be even more closely matched when the public beta hits the Internet. (The two - Defender in the WDP and the current MSE beta - are alike in another way; the real-time protection is far faster on the draw than the currently-non-beta version of MSE.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwod Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Well just to note i am actually running it Dual Boot using a Virtual HDD Method. So no partition splitting or anything complicated. My work flow are mainly browsing the internet. So it has been working great. Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Blue Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Been using the Dev Preview as my primary OS since it was released. I have never had any issues with it. Performance wise, it beats Windows 7. Hyper-V is one of the major reasons I will move to Windows 8. Also, in terms of device management, 8 wins over any other OS I have used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Been using the Dev Preview as my primary OS since it was released. I have never had any issues with it. Performance wise, it beats Windows 7. Hyper-V is one of the major reasons I will move to Windows 8. Also, in terms of device management, 8 wins over any other OS I have used. Noticed that, did you? 8's Device Manger (and apparently the device management as well) is a lot finer-grained than any OS I've ever run. Some Linux distributions come close - however, Windows 8 beats even them. (Device management is one advantage Linux distributions, in fact, have had over Windows up to, and including, 7 - however, Windows 8 is apparently planning on getting the title, or, at minimum, challenging seriously for it.) I commented earlier on the performance and stability aspect of the WDP - upgrading from E3400 to Q6600 drives the point home with a jackhammer. (With i5-K decidedly next up, I honestly have no idea whether to cheer or cringe - I may wind up looking like the guinea pig that dared to ride that rocket-sled at Vandenberg AFB to a record speed - it left his face muscles semi-permanently pulled back.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Observer Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 looking at installing it onto a VHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Blue Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Some Linux distributions come close - however, Windows 8 beats even them. (Device management is one advantage Linux distributions, in fact, have had over Windows up to, and including, 7 - however, Windows 8 is apparently planning on getting the title, or, at minimum, challenging seriously for it.) I never could get any Linux distro to work with either my TP-Link or Cisco wireless usb dongle. Installs perfectly, just drops the connection after I browse the Internet for about two minutes. Happens with: Ubuntu Mint PCLinuxOS (all recent versions) I like Linux. It just doesn't Like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzzRX Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I've been using it as my primary since it came out. Runs like a dream. - Love the new combined copy dialogue and detailed stats - Ribbon is working great, especially not having to drill into tools, folder options to show hidden/system and extensions anymore... I am using that russian hack to get rid of the metro interface though... hate hitting the windows key brings up metro.... im sure this will be gone in beta or an option at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoffel Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I am using that russian hack to get rid of the metro interface though... hate hitting the windows key brings up metro.... im sure this will be gone in beta or an option at least. I don't believe MS will give you an option to disable the Metro start screen They really want you to start using the Metro Apps. You will start seeing more use for that menu screen once the Windows Store opens and you actually get some useful apps For now i spend most of my time on the desktop, but i don't mind going to the start screen to start an app or start searching for something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Bear in the mind that more and more parts of the UI are likely to have been brought into consistency between DP and beta. I'm sure the goal is to have everything metro-ified by the end of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Having used it for a couple of days, the thing I really don't like about the metro apps is that everything is full screen. I get this for tablets and whatnot, but why for PC? Who wants to use twitter in full screen? Look at the weather in full screen? It's almost like they've completely done away with the "Windows" of Windows if you want to use Metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I am using that russian hack to get rid of the metro interface though... hate hitting the windows key brings up metro.... im sure this will be gone in beta or an option at least. Since there is NO reason to prefer the old start menu over the metro start menu, then I don't see why they would do this optional. I can already tell you that this hack won't work in the final release, I'm 99% sure that it will be. Having used it for a couple of days, the thing I really don't like about the metro apps is that everything is full screen. I get this for tablets and whatnot, but why for PC? Who wants to use twitter in full screen? Look at the weather in full screen? It's almost like they've completely done away with the "Windows" of Windows if you want to use Metro. That's why you can put appz side by side. Example with the desktop & wheater appz (it also works with 2 metro apps) : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I use it as primary OS ! I have faced few bugs but then its anyways better for me :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Since there is NO reason to prefer the old start menu over the metro start menu, then I don't see why they would do this optional. I can already tell you that this hack won't work in the final release, I'm 99% sure that it will be. That's why you can put appz side by side. Example with the desktop & wheater appz (it also works with 2 metro apps) : Ah, i haven't found out how to do that yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Put your mouse on the left border, you should have a preview of an application. You can use scroll wheel to change the application. Once you have the correct application, just drag&drop it to the left or right border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc2003 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 i tried the dev preview but there's no way i could use it day to day. the lack of options for customising metro/arranging tiles/groups was painful. i'm definitely looking forward to the beta though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notuptome2004 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 They have since the Dev preview man updated allot of stuff all that stuff you could not do in the Dev preview you can now do so dont worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I have it installed onto a separate partition on my ThinkPad, but I don't really use it a whole lot. Although that will probably change once the public beta comes out next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techguy77 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Since there is NO reason to prefer the old start menu over the metro start menu, then I don't see why they would do this optional. I can already tell you that this hack won't work in the final release, I'm 99% sure that it will be. That's why you can put appz side by side. Example with the desktop & wheater appz (it also works with 2 metro apps) : There will be way to kill Metro, i am sure. Based on what you claim that there is no reason to prefer old Start Menu? Your example of desktop and metro app next to each other is Microsoft attempt to fix broken workflow with Windows 8 so they figured let's do this, slap two interfaces which still have nothing to do with each other. Desktop itself excluding Taskbar which is very small portion of it is unused. There were so many ways to use that desktop space but instead they came up with whole new interface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris123NT Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Metro makes me want to kick babies. And it's a damn shame too since the other advancements in win 8 (new task manager, file copy dialogs, explorer ribbon etc....) are so freakin awesome. Metro just ruins the whole experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 The dev previews metro apps and layout weren't terribly impressive, but based on what they've said has been changed I'm going to love it. I had problems with .NET 1.1 so the dev preview wasn't for me, but I'm definately installing the beta in some form. I don't know if it will be my primary OS but I suspect so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The dev previews metro apps and layout weren't terribly impressive, but based on what they've said has been changed I'm going to love it. I had problems with .NET 1.1 so the dev preview wasn't for me, but I'm definately installing the beta in some form. I don't know if it will be my primary OS but I suspect so. Are you serious about .net 1.1 ? It's barely used afaik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerFan Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Up until now, i had only used the DP in a virtual machine. A few days ago, I decided to install it over my physical Vista partition that I never use anymore. I was amazed by the speed at which it installed. But I really dislike the way the new bootloader works. First, while the bootloader may not be fully functional yet, it doesn't work properly for mulit-boot in its current form. I had to use a Winodows 7 CD to recover the other two Windows installations that were on this drive. That process did add the two existing OS's to the new Windows 8 bootloader. But, the new system forces a reboot AFTER you make your OS boot selection. So, if I want to boot into 7, for example, I have to power on, wait for the Win8 bootloader, select Win7 from the list, and then wait for another reboot. Seemslike a strange step backwards to me. I tried running the DP as my main OS for a couple of days, but had too many issues with the system hanging at the spinning circle when I tried to log out. I won't use it as my main OS, but I do llok forward to trying out a beta, if and when it is released (soon, hopefully!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitins60 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I am going to use on my laptop/desktop as primary os once beta is out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 How much of the actual Windows coding has changed in the developer preview vs Windows 7 ? Ignoring Metro UI, if you look at plain old Windows, 30% ? 50% ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ybrett23 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 tried it and scrapped it, maybe when the beta is out il try again, was too buggy for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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