os x OS X Mountain Lion Discussion

[vf-]

Anyone having issues with Messages? I enable the menu in status bar but it keeps saying I'm offline. I am able to send messages but not change my status. This was an issue in the beta as well, can't believe its not fixed.

Also, do I have to keep Messages app open to receive them? :/

That only seems to work once you enable Bonjour. I'm not liking Messages at all. Can't tell if anyone is online since I can't see them. It nearly feels like opening an empty fancy notes. Not an IM app.

[CPressland]

That only seems to work once you enable Bonjour. I'm not liking Messages at all. Can't tell if anyone is online since I can't see them. It nearly feels like opening an empty fancy notes. Not an IM app.

Messages is based around Text Messaging (iMessage), you message somebody and they'll get back to you.

[n_K]

So messages is working for people? All I get is an error when trying to login (iCloud and iTunes work fine although iTunes says I've downloaded all my puschases but it's empty :s).

Might boot ESXi up in a minute to take another look.

[Manish]

Anyone having issues with Messages? I enable the menu in status bar but it keeps saying I'm offline. I am able to send messages but not change my status. This was an issue in the beta as well, can't believe its not fixed.

Also, do I have to keep Messages app open to receive them? :/

Which account are you having difficulty with in getting online? If you're talking about iMessages, then you just don't understand how it works; it's not a bug. iMessages doesn't have an online/offline mode (it can only be enabled or disabled). It's like trying to ask how to go online with the Messages app on an iPhone. The ability to go offline/online and change statuses is there for other IM accounts that Messages also supports, such as Google Talk, AIM, Yahoo!, etc.

No, the app doesn't need to be open to receive messages. You'll be notified according to how you've set up notifications for the Messages app.

That only seems to work once you enable Bonjour. I'm not liking Messages at all. Can't tell if anyone is online since I can't see them. It nearly feels like opening an empty fancy notes. Not an IM app.

See above. iMessages on Mountain Lion works like it does on an iOS device. No online/offline mode (although you can enable/disable), status change or buddy list. You send and receive messages as you would with text messaging.

So messages is working for people?

Yep. No problems with it so far. Only been using it for iMessages though. Also looking forward to iOS 6 unifying mobile numbers and Apple IDs.

[OOOOOOOO]

We will all be doing upgrades eventually.

No way. That will never happen. Not in a million years. Sometimes people CAN'T run upgrades. You can't cut out that scenario. Upgrading when you had a massive hard drive or OS crash? Having to install an old OS to get to the latest one? No. Wont happen. Installing clean is the best and only way I will ever install an OS :)

[Elliott]

You may have caught my earlier posting but, it looks like the culprit was Kaspersky. They released a new version about a week ago and it doesn't seem to play well with Mountain Lion even though they said it would. Lol. I've seen in their forums that people have complained as well.

Ah, yea, I missed that post. Glad it working better for you now.

Although, I can't seem to install the Extensions I use such as Ad Block. I keep getting an error.

What's the error?

[+Steve B Subscriber²]

What's the error?

Well, I'm getting this error.

[error404ts]

Which account are you having difficulty with in getting online? If you're talking about iMessages, then you just don't understand how it works; it's not a bug. iMessages doesn't have an online/offline mode (it can only be enabled or disabled). It's like trying to ask how to go online with the Messages app on an iPhone. The ability to go offline/online and change statuses is there for other IM accounts that Messages also supports, such as Google Talk, AIM, Yahoo!, etc.

No, the app doesn't need to be open to receive messages. You'll be notified according to how you've set up notifications for the Messages app.

See above. iMessages on Mountain Lion works like it does on an iOS device. No online/offline mode (although you can enable/disable), status change or buddy list. You send and receive messages as you would with text messaging.

Yep. No problems with it so far. Only been using it for iMessages though. Also looking forward to iOS 6 unifying mobile numbers and Apple IDs.

I haven't been able to sync messages from Mountain Lion and iOS. Anywhere I can look for a proper set up for this?

[Brandon H Supervisor]

I haven't been able to sync messages from Mountain Lion and iOS. Anywhere I can look for a proper set up for this?

you can't as far as I'm aware

[Asharae]

I haven't been able to sync messages from Mountain Lion and iOS. Anywhere I can look for a proper set up for this?

Apparently its where iMessage on ML uses your Apple ID (email) to send and receive, whereas on the phones, it uses your phone number, there is an option somewhere in the options to "Send iMessage As". Make sure that is email and it should sync across.

[Hurmoth]

Apparently its where iMessage on ML uses your Apple ID (email) to send and receive, whereas on the phones, it uses your phone number, there is an option somewhere in the options to "Send iMessage As". Make sure that is email and it should sync across.

Apple was suppose to fix this by unifying your Apple ID and phone number, but I don't think it still works, at least not anywhere close to 100%.

[Elliott]

Apple was suppose to fix this by unifying your Apple ID and phone number, but I don't think it still works, at least not anywhere close to 100%.

It works in iOS 6, but that's it for now.

[Rudy]

Message works as expected for me

[PGHammer]

Apple was suppose to fix this by unifying your Apple ID and phone number, but I don't think it still works, at least not anywhere close to 100%.

It's the walls, I tells ya.

That is quite the opposite from Google's approach (everything Google from YouTube to Android feeds off your GMail address) - for all the criticism that Microsoft got for doing something similar with Passport (and before Google did the same) there is one thing that can be said about the Google/Microsoft Approach - It Works.

[The Guvnor]

Any ideas about apps/websites that that work with ML's built in Notification Centre

[Rudy]

Any ideas about apps/websites that that work with ML's built in Notification Centre

I really hope Hotmail will support that soon....but somehow I doubt it. Gmail is supports it I think

[Manish]

Apple was suppose to fix this by unifying your Apple ID and phone number, but I don't think it still works, at least not anywhere close to 100%.

Is that based on you trying the iOS 6 beta?

I haven't been able to sync messages from Mountain Lion and iOS. Anywhere I can look for a proper set up for this?

You can't sync previous messages unless you had already enabled the following setting in the past.

On your iOS device: Settings > Messages > Receive At (should say 2 Addresses) > Caller ID > select your Apple ID

Note that when you iMessage people from an iPhone, it will come up on their end as your email address rather than your phone number. They'll also have to iMessage your email address in order for you to receive the message on both Mountain Lion and iOS. Currently if someone sends an iMessage to your phone number, you'll only receive it on your iPhone. iOS 6 will unify the Apple ID and phone number, so even if someone sends you an iMessage to your phone number, you'll receive it on both Mountain Lion and iOS.

It's the walls, I tells ya.

That is quite the opposite from Google's approach (everything Google from YouTube to Android feeds off your GMail address)...

I don't get how this is the opposite to Google's approach. It's only logical that iMessages on your iPhone works using both your email address and phone number, whereas "non-phone" devices use just your email address. Admittedly, they should have unified caller IDs with the release of iMessages on the iPad.

[nyolc8]

Is anyone getting notification sound for twitter? When I tweet, there is a sound, when I get mail, there is a sound, I have sound for messages too, but twitter is silent even with the notification sound enabled for it in system preferences.

[mattmatik]

Which account are you having difficulty with in getting online? If you're talking about iMessages, then you just don't understand how it works; it's not a bug. iMessages doesn't have an online/offline mode (it can only be enabled or disabled). It's like trying to ask how to go online with the Messages app on an iPhone. The ability to go offline/online and change statuses is there for other IM accounts that Messages also supports, such as Google Talk, AIM, Yahoo!, etc.

No, the app doesn't need to be open to receive messages. You'll be notified according to how you've set up notifications for the Messages app.

Ah, yes, that explains it. But, I can go offline in iMessage on my iPhone ;) I can set it to just use SMS.

And the way the app is working for me when I get a notification, the app opens. I had my wife test it, I sent her an iMessage from my Mac to her iPad. Then I closed the app and she replied on the iPad to my Mac. The app opens and I get notification. There's probably a setting for this I'm just not seeing?

[Manish]

Ah, yes, that explains it. But, I can go offline in iMessage on my iPhone ;) I can set it to just use SMS.

iMessages doesn't have an online/offline mode (it can only be enabled or disabled)

One step ahead of ya.

And the way the app is working for me when I get a notification, the app opens. I had my wife test it, I sent her an iMessage from my Mac to her iPad. Then I closed the app and she replied on the iPad to my Mac. The app opens and I get notification. There's probably a setting for this I'm just not seeing?

Are you getting a notification before or after you open the app? If it's after, it might be because you're opening the Messages app on your Mac before it's had a chance to be "pushed" through. If it's before, then there is no problem right? If you want to adjust settings for Message app notifications, you can do so in System Preferences > Notifications.

By the way, this is how it works for me: When an iMessage is received and the Messages app is not running, I get a banner notification and it adds it to the notification centre. (If I send one to myself, I receive it at the same time on my iPhone, iPad and Macbook Pro, i.e. there's no delay between devices.) The Message app icon also develops a badge indicating that I've received 1 message. The Messages app does not open up automatically, only when I click on one of the aforementioned notifications. I assume that this is how it is supposed to work, as it makes sense to me.

I really hope Hotmail will support that soon....but somehow I doubt it.

I doubt it too. I'm still waiting for an official Microsoft method of accessing Hotmail on OS X sans the website. The new Outlook (2013) makes me hopeful.

[.Neo]

I really hope Hotmail will support that soon....but somehow I doubt it. Gmail is supports it I think

Would be nice if Neowin did something with that.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

I doubt it too. I'm still waiting for an official Microsoft method of accessing Hotmail on OS X sans the website. The new Outlook (2013) makes me hopeful.

Same, I'm really hoping that the next version of Outlook:Mac supports Exchange ActiveSync so I can finally ditch mbox mail :)

[nyolc8]

Facebook IS in the system already.

Go to /System/Library/SocialServices/

As you can see, there is a Facebook folder, and there is the sending sound, and everything.

[Titoist]

Ever since I updated on my Nov 2010 MacBook Air, the system has been laggy. It takes about 15-20sec to respond when woken up from sleep and browsing in Safari is really really slow. Any fixes for this?

[sanctified Veteran]

I found a couple of annoyances, nothing big but... well... annoying:

• If I have external drives connected and try to sent my machine to sleep then external drives keep intermittently spinning and stoping, making noise and keeping the machine from sleeping.
  
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• Safari sometimes take ages to load a site. Seems it's waiting for a server response at first, then loads correctly.