User beats Windows Phone in speed test, denied prize "just because"

[techbeck]

  On 26/03/2012 at 06:49, Vice said:

Also FYI he says his phone is completely stock not rooted at all and the lock screen deactivation is a built in feature he didn't need to root for it (nor is his phone rooted or modified)

Yup,and here is what the screen looks. Just choose none to deactivate the lock screen.

[still1]

  On 26/03/2012 at 06:55, HawkMan said:

According to HIM

And I'd say a lo of people look at the time in two cities, travelers, businessmen, students studying away from home, gamers gaming with friends in other states or countries....

but not necessarily all who come to the contest..

MS employee: lets set 2 weather details beforehand and make that the competition.

oh yeah smoked... How about i set the rules beforehand like opening 3 cities weather? obviously its me who will be winning

[still1]

  On 26/03/2012 at 07:03, techbeck said:

Yup,and here is what the screen looks. Just choose none to deactivate the lock screen.

I hate it when people just blindly say that phone is rooted and the lock screen is a 3rd party app not even knowing that it a stock feature of android.

[Vice]

  On 26/03/2012 at 07:10, still1 said:

I hate it when people just blindly say that phone is rooted and the lock screen is a 3rd party app not even knowing that it a stock feature of android.

I guess if Windows Phone is their first smart phone there will be a lot of basic things they aren't familiar with like being able to turn off a lock screen? :s

[techbeck]

  On 26/03/2012 at 07:10, still1 said:

I hate it when people just blindly say that phone is rooted and the lock screen is a 3rd party app not even knowing that it a stock feature of android.

  On 26/03/2012 at 07:13, Vice said:

I guess if Windows Phone is their first smart phone there will be a lot of basic things they aren't familiar with like being able to turn off a lock screen? :s

Been saying this since the tests started...like others. This is a gimmick...nothing more. You have an expert on a WP device dictating challenges to a mixture of people including novices. (and sorry, just because you attend tech events, doesnt make you an expert. I am sure a lot of novices took the challenge as well).

Here is an idea....say I am an Nascar driver. I challenge some soccer mom in a race on a track that I choose and we each have to use our own vehicles. I know the track and my car clearly has the advantage since it has been designed ahead of time for this challenge.. Who do you think will win?

[still1]

  On 26/03/2012 at 07:22, techbeck said:

Been saying this since the tests started...like others. This is a gimmick...nothing more. You have an expert on a WP device dictating challenges to a mixture of people including novices. (and sorry, just because you attend tech events, doesnt make you an expert. I am sure a lot of novices took the challenge as well).

Here is an idea....say I am an Nascar driver. I challenge some soccer mom in a race on a track that I choose and we each have to use our own vehicles. I know the track and my car clearly has the advantage since it has been designed ahead of time for this challenge.. Who do you think will win?

exactly.. All WP7 owners here is a challenge from still1 post an image of "Smoked turkey" in this topic. whoever posts first wins.

Boom. Done Smoked by Still1

[Lucas]

He won, end of story, give him his laptop and windows phone, jesus christ dude, it's not like it costs them that much. Bad marketing here.

[Raa]

Good publicity or Bad publicity is still publicity...

One can't help but wonder if this was a setup?

[tiagosilva29]

The Android dude won.

[ichi]

The MS store employee was dishonest and got butthurt when it backfired. That was not a speed test, it was all about who had the phone preconfigured for the selected task.

She choosed something that she had already configured her phone to show on her home screen. In the worst case scenario she only had to unlock her phone faster than the other guy, or at least about as fast which would mean he still wouldn't win.

In the best (and most likely) case, the other guy wouldn't have added those two weather widgets to his own home screen and would hence lose.

  On 26/03/2012 at 06:37, HawkMan said:

His phone was jail broken and modded to hell and back only to be fast at this ONE task. It proves nothing except you can mod your phone to make it a weather station able to show weather a fraction faster than a multi purpose phone.

Call me when he can do it faster on a OOB phone.

"Modded to hell and back" when he only removed the lock screen (which is a standard Android feature) and added two weather widgets? :rofl: Are you serious?

[AbandonedTrolley]

Shame he didn't have Widget Locker installed where he might of had the widgets on his lock screen then it would have only been a press of the power key. Would he still have lost for that?

She had customised her phone to display two weather locations, why can he not modify his to remove the lockscreen? He won, it can be performed quicker on Android that WP7 if set up correctly. They just didn't bet on the guy not having a lockscreen, pay up :)

[MindTrickz]

  On 26/03/2012 at 05:02, Muhammad Farrukh said:

Oh and also, he might be using third party app for the lock-screen, which obviously disqualifies him. For every OS, there are always two steps to get to homescreen, power button and lock screen thing.

The rules clearly stipulate that any app that is available in the marketplace/appstore is ALLOWED. The disabling of the lock-screen is a feature built-in Android.

You are making excuse for Microsoft; who were beaten in a rigged competition that clearly favored them. Their phones were per-configured to display the challenges, and when this guy beat them they refused to give him his prize.

[MindTrickz]

  On 26/03/2012 at 06:37, HawkMan said:

His phone was jail broken and modded to hell and back only to be fast at this ONE task. It proves nothing except you can mod your phone to make it a weather station able to show weather a fraction faster than a multi purpose phone.

Call me when he can do it faster on a OOB phone.

The article clearly states that his phone was stock android...... The rules also state that any app from the marketplace/appstore is permitted....

[Intersect]

  On 26/03/2012 at 06:21, FloatingFatMan said:

^ Also, being able to show weather forecasts also isn't a stock feature of either OS. Both require downloads and setup, so really, all this was a "test" of, was who could display their homescreen faster, and Android invariably wins at that.

If MS tried this shizzle in the UK, the Office of Fair Trading would be all over them like stink on a turd.

you can add anne robinson to that list too. she would publicly hulimiate them on bbcs watchdog show.

its all just a very silly and stupid marketing campanie.is an iphone allowed to "smoke" an windows phone? it just comes down to what hardware you have

and if you happen to have a orange Sanfransisco your not going to win.

[AbandonedTrolley]

  On 26/03/2012 at 10:23, xSuRgEx said:

you can add anne robinson to that list too. she would publicly hulimiate them on bbcs watchdog show.

its all just a very silly and stupid marketing campanie.is an iphone allowed to "smoke" an windows phone? it just comes down to what hardware you have

and if you happen to have a orange Sanfransisco your not going to win.

You could if you just had widget locker installed, all you would need to do was turn on your phone and there could be two widgets displaying the weather in seperate cities. Also the Orange San Fran also allows you to remove the lockscreen so even that would have won this challenge if it comes down to "steps" as opposed to time, would probably beat it on time too. But any Android phone set up correctly could perform their test in one step.

[goofyinthehead]

Since no one here was witness to any of this, It's all speculation and conspiracy theories.

Kill the topic and move on with your lives.

[Ambroos]

I tried all the challenges with both my Xperia S and Xperia Arc S, did them together with the videos, and with the Xperia S I won almost always, with the Arc S it was about even. Windows Phone is fast, but really not that fast.

[AbandonedTrolley]

  On 26/03/2012 at 10:47, Ambroos said:

I tried all the challenges with both my Xperia S and Xperia Arc S, did them together with the videos, and with the Xperia S I won almost always, with the Arc S it was about even. Windows Phone is fast, but really not that fast.

Not through the eyes of a WP fan or salesperson you didn't! Surely you cheated? :p

I've found that the Xperia S is a great performer on what people say is outdated hardware. Seems Sony really have gotten their firmware/software right when it comes to optimzation. Cannot wait for them to release ICS on the handset, although I think as soon as CM9 hits the handset I will be installing that.

[Gaffney]

I don't think this was a good test Android wins but probably only by a fraction of a second and most people wouldn't disable the lockscreen. The person won but taking off the lockscreen isn't 100% fair, if WP7 had the feature I wouldn't expect them to remove it before doing the tests.

[AbandonedTrolley]

  On 26/03/2012 at 11:16, Gaffney said:

I don't think this was a good test Android wins but probably only by a fraction of a second and most people wouldn't disable the lockscreen. The person won but taking off the lockscreen isn't 100% fair, if WP7 had the feature I wouldn't expect them to remove it before doing the tests.

Why not? As standard WP doesn't have 2 weather tiles but they did for this test.

[ichi]

  On 26/03/2012 at 11:16, Gaffney said:

I don't think this was a good test Android wins but probably only by a fraction of a second and most people wouldn't disable the lockscreen. The person won but taking off the lockscreen isn't 100% fair, if WP7 had the feature I wouldn't expect them to remove it before doing the tests.

It isn't 100% fair to add two weather tiles to WP and then challenge people to show weather from two locations at the same time, yet they did.

I could place a web widget on my home screen and "smoke" every other phone at showing whatever page I've configured the widget to show. If you can preconfigure your phone any way you want and it's up to you to select the challenge, then it's all pointless.

[Depicus]

  On 26/03/2012 at 07:22, techbeck said:

Been saying this since the tests started...like others. This is a gimmick...nothing more. You have an expert on a WP device dictating challenges to a mixture of people including novices. (and sorry, just because you attend tech events, doesnt make you an expert. I am sure a lot of novices took the challenge as well).

Here is an idea....say I am an Nascar driver. I challenge some soccer mom in a race on a track that I choose and we each have to use our own vehicles. I know the track and my car clearly has the advantage since it has been designed ahead of time for this challenge.. Who do you think will win?

The soccer mum .... :)

[jesseinsf]

  On 26/03/2012 at 04:57, Vice said:

Read the full story at the Source

Android user cheated because he didn't tell the lady that he already had 2 weather widgets on his home screen. The windows phone user didn't have it on her home screen prior to the challenge.

To be fair, you should start off clean.....this mean both have to get rid of their Weather widget/tiles and start from a clean slate. This is what the challenge is all about.

[AbandonedTrolley]

  On 26/03/2012 at 11:43, ichi said:

It isn't 100% fair to add two weather tiles to WP and then challenge people to show weather from two locations at the same time, yet they did.

I could place a web widget on my home screen and "smoke" every other phone at showing whatever page I've configured the widget to show. If you can preconfigure your phone any way you want and it's up to you to select the challenge, then it's all pointless.

Exactly, they had their phone preconfigured to do it as quickly as possible, this wasn't an out of the box default setup test. They had changed their setup and so had this guy, they lost, simple as that.

Pretty bad that they can't admit it and invite him down for another "random" test that they will have a phone preconfigured for in the hope that his phone cannot manage it faster.

[firey]

Dear god this thread is funny. I love the MS Fanboys you make my morning. Can't stand to see your wittle windwows phwone sweven bweaten by big ole meanie android. But seriously, it was beaten completely fair. If you can't see that, then you need your heads examined.

@Hawkman -> LMFAO BRO! Jailbroken?? AHAHAH Shows how little you even know about android. And that it's modded for the weather challenge?? Are you high?? It's funny you claim that Android sucks and is so poor, yet you really have no ****ing clue do you?