FMH Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Google is evil In the Biblical story, the serpent tempted Eve by offering something she desired -- to be like God. It's appropriate metaphor for every shyster that followed. Evildoers follow a consistent pattern of offering something tempting that masks something else. It's the art of misdirection that assures them power or profit -- often both. If there is a definition of evil, it's taking advantage of others for personal gain. The more people, the more evil. Greater the trickery, eviler still. That sums up my assessment of Google's non-voting split revealed yesterday concurrently with first-quarter earnings . Stock-split seemingly gives investors twice as many shares as they have now. But half will be non-voting ones, diluting shareholders' say in Google's doings. Essentially, the company seeks to have it both ways -- be private while having the benefits of public investment. The most disruptive company of the 21st century is at it again. The implications are seemingly astounding. Devil's Deal As I opined in December 2010: "If there is a devil, a Great Satan of modern technology companies, Google is it". Yesterday's stunning proposal is more confirmation. Read the full article over here Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 i've personally have already accepted google as my overlords a couple of years ago so im fine with it. drazen11, HoochieMamma, farmeunit and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted April 13, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted April 13, 2012 doesn't really bother me as they provide some good services for a reasonably free-cheap price I'd say Apple is a LOT more evil than Google farmeunit 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Apple = Evil Google = Evil Microsoft = Evil News at ten. remixedcat 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted April 13, 2012 Global Moderator Share Posted April 13, 2012 i've personally have already accepted google as my overlords a couple of years ago so im fine with it. haha yep. i use plenty of google products. i hate to say i love google. :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted April 13, 2012 MVC Share Posted April 13, 2012 What's wrong with stock split and still have founder(s) 51% control of the company? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted April 13, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted April 13, 2012 Apple = Evil Google = Evil Microsoft = Evil Technology in general = Evil News at ten. there, fixed for ya Jack Mack, thealexweb and Duffydemon 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 haha yep. i use plenty of google products. i hate to say i love google. :rofl: everything i use is google cause their cross platform support is second to none. i don't feel like getting stuck in one ecosystem (microsoft, android or apple). i like using whatever i want and google lets me do that without issues. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I've had no choice but to accept Le Goog and a whole bunch of other owners, too. Being underground or "resistance" generally sucks. Nevertheless, I'm not fine with it at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplezz Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Another day, another Google smearing article. The propaganda peddlers are out in force. It's not associated with ICOMP is it by any chance? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I'm completely fine with google. It's my go-to search, my phone is powered by Android. All my e-mail goes through google. All of which is my choice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMH Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 What's wrong with stock split and still have founder(s) 51% control of the company? Google split a share into two, but only one of them is voting share. But a few shareholders are exempted from this. And they are, Eric Schmidt, the two co-founders, and a few other people. This takes power and control from the majority share holders, and gives them to the minority. It's extremely unfair. And a few of you are taking it from the consumer side. But it has nothing to do with it. If doesn't affect the Google's product users. It isn't "privacy issue", or some other "evil". This is about the people who have ownership in Google, and the unfair treatment they are getting. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_of_hearts Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Boohoo. If you're not happy about Google's decision to split non-voting shares, then don't invest in Google! Problem solved. Crisis averted. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplezz Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 And a few of you are taking it from the consumer side. But it has nothing to do with it. If doesn't affect the Google's product users. It isn't "privacy issue", or some other "evil". This is about the people who have ownership in Google, and the unfair treatment they are getting. Have you watched The Social Network? If Google is evil, Zuckerberg and CO are the anti-christ. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Google is a company, their purpose is to make money. So how is any of this a surprise. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Old news -- I pointed this out years ago. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMH Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 Boohoo. If you're not happy about Google's decision to split non-voting shares, then don't invest in Google! Problem solved. Crisis averted. That's okay, if you aren't already an investor. But what about the current owners. It is like being unfairly treated by a business, and you go to a judge,and he rules that you shouldn't to that business anymore! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I've had no choice but to accept Le Goog and a whole bunch of other owners, too. Being underground or "resistance" generally sucks. Nevertheless, I'm not fine with it at all. You did have a choice, you could have shut your Google account there and then. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
still1 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Read the full article over here build your own company and would you give away ur control?? every damn company is evil.... MS, Facebook,Apple,Google... No one is doing charity here... everyone are here to make money. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Another day, another Google smearing article. The propaganda peddlers are out in force. It's not associated with ICOMP is it by any chance? It's hilarious.. calling Google evil based on how they give their shares.. ridiculous.. when you don't have anything else than start writing crap like this cause that's all you got. I'm sure that's far better than hoarding 100 billion dollars of money that goes NOWHERE. Not into economy, not into investments.. nothing.. still1 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aergan Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I am currently happy with the overlord of my email data - it doesn't ask me for money, filters out all the spam, doesn't care if I don't sync in a while or give a monkeys how I access it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
still1 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Another day, another Google smearing article. The propaganda peddlers are out in force. It's not associated with ICOMP is it by any chance? propably it is funded by MS... Microsoft is evil too.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 You did have a choice, you could have shut your Google account there and then. Sorry, that's utter nonsense. I wish you'd medidate upon it. That goes for the whole delusional crowd who wouldn't stop their "say good or say nothing at all" yammering, it's gnawingly annoying. "Close the account" or "don't use at all" is a ****ty choice. You know it. In fact, I wrote "resistance generally sucks", but I'll explain it - I want these services and I actually need them to do my job more or less successfully. Don't you understand it? If you do, why do you keep saying what you said there? Is this some sort of thing they make people say in EULAs or something? I never read them, I wouldn't know. See, there's this moron thing I do - it's called thinking. The deal's bad. Either I'm totally screwed over time, falling behind, being jobless piece of crud, or I have to sell my personal information at a price I can neither control nor influence. Now you may be extaticly happy about the free toaster they put as a gift but I'm not a single bit person. I find these things not only necessary but often times useful and fun. However, I don't have to either unconditionally love something or downright hate it and make a solemn wow to never ever see it again. And I will use that complain but continue to use option a lot, thank you very much. I might add that deleting an account is completely senseless. That does not delete my information. And nor it should upon my sole request. It's not mine anymore, I've sold it, I've no say in the matter. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Sorry, that's utter nonsense. I wish you'd medidate upon it. That goes for the whole delusional crowd who wouldn't stop their "say good or say nothing at all" yammering, it's gnawingly annoying. "Close the account" or "don't use at all" is a ****ty choice. You know it. In fact, I wrote "resistance generally sucks", but I'll explain it - I want these services and I actually need them to do my job more or less successfully. Don't you understand it? If you do, why do you keep saying what you said there? Is this some sort of thing they make people say in EULAs or something? I never read them, I wouldn't know. See, there's this moron thing I do - it's called thinking. The deal's bad. Either I'm totally screwed over time, falling behind, being jobless piece of crud, or I have to sell my personal information at a price I can neither control nor influence. Now you may be extaticly happy about the free toaster they put as a gift but I'm not a single bit person. I find these things not only necessary but often times useful and fun. However, I don't have to either unconditionally love something or downright hate it and make a solemn wow to never ever see it again. And I will use that complain but continue to use option a lot, thank you very much. I might add that deleting an account is completely senseless. That does not delete my information. And nor it should upon my sole request. It's not mine anymore, I've sold it, I've no say in the matter. You don't HAVE to give Google or any other company your personal information to use their products, Google has exactly as much of my private information as I CHOSE to give them which was barely nothing, as a matter of fact I could give you my real first and last name and you won't find anything other than my practically dead FB page, nothing else, all you and Google know about me is what City I live in and not much else, and it's not hard to do, and yet all these free services work just fine for me Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 You don't HAVE to give Google or any other company your personal information to use their products, Google has exactly as much of my private information as I CHOSE to give them which was barely nothing, as a matter of fact I could give you my real first and last name and you won't find anything other than my practically dead FB page, nothing else, all you and Google know about me is what City I live in and not much else, and it's not hard to do, and yet all these free services work just fine for me Your masters wish to inform you they're quite pleased. Notice how you're going down the waterfall in your own post? At first "don't have", then "barely nothing", then there's also city and then also "not much else"? I'll add from myself that there's some crap they find on their own, correlating from your IP address, from your search terms, from your usage patterns. I might add that I believe there's also some undisclosed methods of information gathering involved. And no, of course, Google or anyone else really isn't interested in details of a single person of utter insignificance, like general populace generally is, personally. We're just a number in statistics bigtables, a drop in the ocean. An ocean that will never overflow or dry out, indeed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070247-google-is-evil/#findComment-594798715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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