togerland Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I have a CRT monitor I want to use because I believe they still have a better picture over LCD. ( please dont start a flame war over this ) I also like to play older games and the CRT able to change resolutions without distorting is very helpful for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
togerland Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 I guess if it has HDMI out i could use this converter ? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0U00925272 bogas04 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted May 5, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted May 5, 2012 most have dvi and hdmi ports anymore though you can easily buy a dvi-vga adapter for ~$12 which works just fine so you should really have any problem if you buy a graphics card without a vga port Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted May 5, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted May 5, 2012 On 05/05/2012 at 19:13, togerland said: I guess if it has HDMI out i could use this converter ? http://www.newegg.co...=9SIA0U00925272 you're better off getting one with a dvi port and using a dvi-vga adapter like i said in my previous post. much cheaper and just as effective than getting that converteredit: here, here's a $3 dvi-to-vga adapter from newegg with high ratings http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814999201 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
togerland Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 Thanks love your amazing xx Do U still use vga? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excelsis Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Most graphics card still come with DVI to VGA adapters, including high end graphics cards. And low end ones (think HD6450) still have the VGA port built right into them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted May 5, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted May 5, 2012 no, I mostly just use the screen on my laptop and when I do use an external i use hdmi and plug it into my tv but my friend had the same problem as you (except his screens are older lcds with just vga) and I got him that adapter and it worked for him perfectly Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 VGA is awful, get with the times and get a nice IPS monitor and you wont even look at CRT again. Crisp 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
togerland Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 On 05/05/2012 at 19:24, TheLegendOfMart said: VGA is awful, get with the times and get a nice IPS monitor and you wont even look at CRT again. Does it change resolutions without smudging everything Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted May 5, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted May 5, 2012 On 05/05/2012 at 19:26, togerland said: Does it change resolutions without smudging everything No, but some displays/graphics cards give you the option to use any resolution without stretching the image.. so you'll just get an image in the centre of the screen surrounded by black. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I agree on the fact that a good CRT still beats most LCD flat panels, especially because they're not dependant on their native resolution. My TV is still a classic CRT but plugged into a digital source with full RGB input, and almost everyone who comes over here agrees that it is just as sharp as a flatscreen TV but with much better colours. My computer display is also still VGA (flat panel though). As it has been said before, almost any video card that has a DVI-output also includes a DVI to VGA adapter in the box. That's how I use mine, and it works just perfectly. One thing you have to watch out for: make sure the video card has a DVI-I port (dvi-i). I used to have a video card that had a DVI-D-port, and DVI-D does not have the necessary pins to support a DVI-to-VGA-adapter. But most nowadays use DVI-I. HDMI-to-VGA isn't the best idea, because HDMI doesn't contain an analog signal at all, and an adapter will be very expensive. Good luck! (PS: What jamesfyx said above is true sometimes, but it depends on your monitor too, and most CRT's won't support that feature. If your monitor properly reports it's native resolution to your video card, your video card can decide to only ever output in that specific resolution, and it'll do all the upscaling for you. Because your video card is usually better at upscaling than your monitor it makes things look slightly acceptabe. But on a flat panel anything other than the native resolution will always look crap. The best thing you can do though is just set all your games to the native resolution of your monitor. That shouldn't be too hard.) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Every Sapphire GPU I have bought from 5770 > 6850 has come with a DVI to VGA adapter Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
togerland Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 I buy alot of older DOS games and unfort u cant change the resolution on alot of them :( IS there such thing as a plasma monitor for PC? IF so can plasma change resolution? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
primexx Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 yea most (all?) of them still come with DVI to VGA adapters, so don't worry. even if yours doesn't just ask a friend for their spare because everyone has them (they just might not know it :p). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594847323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 On 05/05/2012 at 20:05, togerland said: I buy alot of older DOS games and unfort u cant change the resolution on alot of them :( IS there such thing as a plasma monitor for PC? IF so can plasma change resolution? Plasma is a bad idea. It's good for televisions but useless for PC monitors. With any sort of flat panel you'll be stuck to a standard pixel layout that only looks good on native resolutions anyway, so even if a PC-size plasma would exist it wouldn't really differ from an LCD monitor. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594848967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Many have a VGA out on a ribbon connector, at least every low profile radeon HD I have purchased does. You can always get a DVI > VGA converter as well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594848973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ_ Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 On 05/05/2012 at 20:05, Detection said: Every Sapphire GPU I have bought from 5770 > 6850 has come with a DVI to VGA adapter It pre-dates to long time ago and perhaps before the 4850 Sapphire I brought many years ago which also came with one :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594848991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARchamps Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 My 560 Ti came with a DVI to VGA converter. It was quite useful as I didn't have a DVI cable on hand. I was able to use the VGA connection on my monitor and it looked just fine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594850343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I know the Mars II comes with a VGA adapter. Why someone would buy a Mars II and use VGA is beyond me though, get a better a monitor! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594850381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
togerland Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 On 07/05/2012 at 15:14, Tom said: I know the Mars II comes with a VGA adapter. Why someone would buy a Mars II and use VGA is beyond me though, get a better a monitor! There is no monitor that is better then CRT Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594850793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 On 07/05/2012 at 18:17, togerland said: There is no monitor that is better then CRT You sir are WRONG! But believe whatever you want, it's your money to waste on whatever tech you want Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594851249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDStriker Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 On 07/05/2012 at 21:44, z0phi3l said: You sir are WRONG! But believe whatever you want, it's your money to waste on whatever tech you want For him it's true and anything but wrong you're wrong for assuming otherwise. His criteria for a better screen is * great color * allows you to use any resolution and occupy the full estate of the screen without distortion So his statement of "There is no monitor that is better than CRT" given the above criteria he mentioned earlier is correct There is nothing to "believe" implying it's a non-existent problem it's a well known fact that lcd's distort significantly when having a non-native ratio set and attempting to utilize the full screen It's personal preference if using various resolutions is a requirement to you and black bars/distortion is not acceptable then a CRT is the right product for the job and which makes it better than lcd tech for you who doesn't care about things like this or it doesn't impact you enough then an lcd will do the job and you can deem it better Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594860841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 On 06/05/2012 at 19:54, JJ_ said: It pre-dates to long time ago and perhaps before the 4850 Sapphire I brought many years ago which also came with one :p Actually, it goes back to the ATI All-In-Wonder 8500DV - the first graphics card for PCs that *lacked* native support for VGA/D-sub on the card itself - DVI was the default. It *did* come with a DVI-VGA dongle (as this was well before flat-panel displays fell into the affordable). Such dongles are still included with most cards that lack any VGA/D-sub connections (I would, in fact, get two more with later purchases of graphics cards - the All-In-Wonder 9700 PRO and RADEON X1650 PRO - both in AGP. Both cards still work, as do their dongles.) - all three predate the Sapphire HD4850. (The HIS iCooler HD7770 GHz Edition, which I am looking at as a post-i5-3570 upgrade, also has such a dongle, as it's a dual-slot card that lacks D-sub/VGA support. The card in question - http://www.hisdigital.com/us/product2-681.shtml) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075259-do-they-make-any-new-video-cards-with-vga-output-still/#findComment-594862523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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