windows 8 Microsoft Drops Aero from Windows 8

[George P Global Moderator]

Oh yes I agree that switching between interfaces is currently jarring. However, that's why I think it's a good idea to get rid of Aero Glass (or not use it as the default) - a flatter, Metro-ised UI on the desktop will make the transition from desktop to immersive much smoother.

Being able to have the same wallpaper would also help in the transition as well. They really should look into allowing that as an option.

[HoochieMamma]

Some people here need to get their head checked (I'm talking to you Windows 8 haters). I'm a professional programmer and have been for 10 years, Me and my entire team are currently using Windows 8 and Visual Studio 11 to develop a huge application and website for a big company and we find that Windows 8 improved our workflow. We would never ever go back to 7.

Don't know why my post was removed, looks like some people higher up need to get their heads checked. :rolleyes:

What I don't understand and what I was trying to get at with this post is if you truly are a programmer that's developing a "huge application and website for a big company", why would you use BETA software in a production environment? Sounds like you're lying as no real company would do such a thing. Unless your a back garage operator?

[jakem1]

Being able to have the same wallpaper would also help in the transition as well. They really should look into allowing that as an option.

I suspect they will but we'll have to wait for the RTM build to see if I'm right :)

If they hadn't included those awful Start screen backgrounds I would have thought they would go down the WP7 route and not allow Start screen backgrounds at all. However, I think it's pretty clear that they do intend to let users choose their own backgrounds.

[HawkMan]

Yeah I agree, how dare people want to use the PC how they want to use it, should I bow down at your feet or do you just want me to kiss your ass just because you are a 'professional'?

I'm sorry, but is MS preventing your ability to install Linux ? No.

[HawkMan]

Don't know why my post was removed, looks like some people higher up need to get their heads checked. :rolleyes:

What I don't understand and what I was trying to get at with this post is if you truly are a programmer that's developing a "huge application and website for a big company", why would you use BETA software in a production environment? Sounds like you're lying as no real company would do such a thing. Unless your a back garage operator?

They're not, they're using preview software, designed and released for the purpose of "developing" apps tha works when the final erosion is released. Imagine that.

[HoochieMamma]

I'm sorry, but is MS preventing your ability to install Linux ? No.

LOL, that's great. Move to Linux, nice suggestion. Don't like what Microsoft is doing with their product? Don't try and get them to rectify it or suggest ways of improvement. Move to a completely different platform. That will fix it!! :laugh:

[BeerFan]

Some people here need to get their head checked (I'm talking to you Windows 8 haters). I'm a professional programmer and have been for 10 years, Me and my entire team are currently using Windows 8 and Visual Studio 11 to develop a huge application and website for a big company and we find that Windows 8 improved our workflow. We would never ever go back to 7.

OK, i'll bite. You are defending Win8 by saying it improved your workflow (and throwing insults at everyone with differing opinions). So, how did it improve your workflow?

[MorganX]

I love the hate. I find it funny (in some cases, pathetic) how some people are misinformed about Windows 8 or simply refuse to learn. And my last post is real I'm not trolling and I use metro a lot (I got 30 apps), it's wonderful. Microsoft wanted to do something new and they did. If windows 8 makes using the computer harder than you are probably using it wrong.

Professional Programmers, can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em. Soon to be the story of Metro.

[pmrd]

They're not, they're using preview software, designed and released for the purpose of "developing" apps tha works when the final erosion is released. Imagine that.

You got me all figured out. In case you did not know MS even offers support for using VS11 in a production environment. Imagine that.

Don't know why my post was removed, looks like some people higher up need to get their heads checked. :rolleyes:

What I don't understand and what I was trying to get at with this post is if you truly are a programmer that's developing a "huge application and website for a big company", why would you use BETA software in a production environment? Sounds like you're lying as no real company would do such a thing. Unless your a back garage operator?

Sounds like you know nothing about programming or "real companies" whatever that is. If you had ever used VS11 you would find that it works pretty darn well aside from a couple xaml editor bugs, i'd stay it's pretty much flawless.

OK, i'll bite. You are defending Win8 by saying it improved your workflow (and throwing insults at everyone with differing opinions). So, how did it improve your workflow?

Start menu makes it easier to find stuff, messenger, email and other stuff all running in the background not taking up icons in the task bar and needing to open and close applications, multi monitor task bar helps a lot too.

[TheLegendOfMart]

I'm sorry, but is MS preventing your ability to install Linux ? No.

No, I'm just sick of people like him telling me that "its just better" he didn't explain HOW his workflow has improved he just wants us to accept his word just because he claims to be a 'professional', like I'm some kind of idiot because I don't 'get' Windows 8 and that I'm "using it wrong".

[Dot Matrix]

Don't know why my post was removed, looks like some people higher up need to get their heads checked. :rolleyes:

What I don't understand and what I was trying to get at with this post is if you truly are a programmer that's developing a "huge application and website for a big company", why would you use BETA software in a production environment? Sounds like you're lying as no real company would do such a thing. Unless your a back garage operator?

Huh? This is exactly why Microsoft releases these previews, to get developers going in time for release. If he's using Windows 8 in a business setting, they're using it on a side machine, most likely disconnected from their main network. They'll never widely distribute or deploy beta software in a business.

[Adamodeus]

Goes a long way towards scaling back on burdening the GPU and improving battery life for laptop usage.

Riiiiiiight... Bright white background on a mobile device goes a long way towards improving battery life...

[BajiRav]

Yeah I agree, how dare people want to use the PC how they want to use it, should I bow down at your feet or do you just want me to kiss your ass just because you are a 'professional'?

Here is a fun fact: People are not using PC the way they want it. They are using PCs how Microsoft told them in 1995. Now Microsoft is saying use it like 1995 but with these added modifications.

[Dot Matrix]

Here is a fun fact: People are not using PC the way they want it. They are using PCs how Microsoft told them in 1995. Now Microsoft is saying use it like 1995 but with these added modifications.

Another fun fact: people have been using devices as they are told forever now. I cannot use apps on an iPad without Apple approving them first (Or risk jailbreaking). I cannot install other operating systems on a Chromebook. I cannot flash my Blu Ray player with a custom OS and still have it work. Blah, blah, blah...

Yet people still buy these devices, and still love them. Microsoft coming into the foray shouldn't make a world of difference.

[butilikethecookie]

I'm sorry, but is MS preventing your ability to install Linux ? No.

They actually are with that UEFI bull ****.

[Dot Matrix]

They actually are with that UEFI bull ****.

No, they aren't. Only on WinRT devices are they locking the system. x64 hardware will have an off switch.

[Stoffel]

They actually are with that UEFI bull ****.

Just comes to show how little people know, before they start spreading FUD

The only devices that will be locked are the ARM based devices. Just like you can't install another OS on an Ipad

[butilikethecookie]

Just comes to show how little people know, before they start spreading FUD

The only devices that will be locked are the ARM based devices. Just like you can't install another OS on an Ipad

I'm not.

http://www.zdnet.com...dows-8-pcs/9572

The way I understood it was ALL new PCs.

Quote:

"To sum up: ?a system that ships with only OEM and Microsoft keys will not boot a generic copy of Linux.?

[Aethec]

I'm not.

http://www.zdnet.com...dows-8-pcs/9572

The way I understood it was ALL new PCs.

Quote:

"To sum up: ?a system that ships with only OEM and Microsoft keys will not boot a generic copy of Linux.?

SJVN isn't known for delivering reliable information on anything Microsoft-related.

Try Ed Bott for that kind of information...while he is quite the MS fanboy, he always backs up his claims with evidence. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/leading-pc-makers-confirm-no-windows-8-plot-to-lock-out-linux/4185

[TheLegendOfMart]

Another fun fact: people have been using devices as they are told forever now. I cannot use apps on an iPad without Apple approving them first (Or risk jailbreaking). I cannot install other operating systems on a Chromebook. I cannot flash my Blu Ray player with a custom OS and still have it work. Blah, blah, blah...

Yet people still buy these devices, and still love them. Microsoft coming into the foray shouldn't make a world of difference.

Apple doesn't change how IOS works, IOS 1 looks and functions much like IOS 5. The App analogy is flawed much like the rest of your analogies.

An apt analogy would be Apple changing how OSX works out of the box so it booted up into IOS but had the ability to launch the desktop/finder from the app list basically making your Mac a glorified non-touch iPad.

[butilikethecookie]

SJVN isn't known for delivering reliable information on anything Microsoft-related.

Try Ed Bott for that kind of information...while he is quite the MS fanboy, he always backs up his claims with evidence. http://www.zdnet.com...-out-linux/4185

I stand corrected. I apologize for my ignorance.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

Apple doesn't change how IOS works, IOS 1 looks and functions much like IOS 5. The App analogy is flawed much like the rest of your analogies.

An apt analogy would be Apple changing how OSX works out of the box so it booted up into IOS but had the ability to launch the desktop/finder from the app list basically making your Mac a glorified non-touch iPad.

isn't that what apple is slowly doing anyway? apple's just doing it at a slower pace where as microsoft is doing it all at once

[TheLegendOfMart]

No, they are doing a better job at integrating IOS features into OSX, the correct way to do uniformity. Not by making OSX into IOS with desktop/finder as an afterthought.

[Dot Matrix]

SJVN needs to be fired. He does nothing for Linux users, and only writes articles to spread FUD about anything he doesn't like.

[Dot Matrix]

No, they are doing a better job at integrating IOS features into OSX, the correct way to do uniformity. Not by making OSX into IOS with desktop/finder as an afterthought.

The desktop ins't an after thought. In fact, judging by the lengthy blog post on multi monitor enhancements that was posted the other day, I would argue it is quite the opposite, but I don't see the traditional desktop carrying forward too much longer. It'll loose more and more focus as technology becomes more interactive, and personal.